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ATD 2012 - Draft Thread II

ATD 2012 - Draft Thread I

ATD 2012 !!!

Now on a 10 hour clock

1). The draft will last 25 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 4 extra picks.

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.
  • 12 hour clock for the first two rounds, (sending a shortlist to another GM highly encouraged here)
  • then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
  • then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
  • then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
  • then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-25
One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). Trading is to be reasonably fair and balanced and lopsided trades will need to be re-worked or dropped. This is at the discretion of the trade committee.
  • Trading while on the clock is discouraged and will be penalized like a missed deadline, so if you do it, you better be sure that's what you want.
  • There is no limit to the number of trades you can make.
4). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM (if the team is co-GM'd) per team. The penalty if not done is a lowering in the standings because we would also be ranking our own teams in our own divisions (e.g., most teams will rank their own team 1st in their own division; if a team doesn't vote they loose out on a 1st place vote opportunity and hence their team's ranking will be lower than it could have been). All teams make the playoffs. 4th & 5th seeds play a 2-game series to narrow the field to 32.

5). REGULAR SEASON AND PLAYOFF VOTING TO BE A SET RESPONSIBILITY.

6). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

DRAFT LIST:

Deductions:
Stoneberg & raleh -Halifax Mooseheads = -1 hour
EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France = -1 hour
Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats = -2 hours
Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters = -2 hours
BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal = -1 hour

Round 1

1. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Bobby Orr, D
2. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Wayne Gretzky, C
3. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Gordie Howe, RW
4. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Mario Lemieux, C
5. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Doug Harvey, D
6. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Jean Beliveau, C
7. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Eddie Shore, D
8. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Raymond Bourque, D
9. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bobby Hull, LW
10. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Denis Potvin, D
11. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Nicklas Lidström, D
12. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Maurice Richard, RW
13. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Stan Mikita, C
14. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Dominik Hasek, G
15. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Bryan Trottier, C
16. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Bobby Clarke, C
17. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Terry Sawchuk, G
18. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal - Leonard ''Red'' Kelly, D/C
19. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Howie Morenz, C
20. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Guy Lafleur, RW
21. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Patrick Roy, G
22. Dwight - West Island Lions - Jacques Plante, G
23. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Larry Robinson, D
24. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Jaromir Jagr, RW
25. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Slava Fetisov, D
26. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Phil Esposito, C
27. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Mike Bossy, RW
28. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Mark Messier, C/LW
29. Stoneberg & raleh -Halifax Mooseheads - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
30. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Chris Chelios, D
31. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Ted Lindsay, LW
32. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Joe Sakic, C

Round 2

33. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Paul Coffey, D
34. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Brad Park, D
35. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Steve Yzerman, C
36. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Pierre Pilote, D
37. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Glenn Hall, G
38. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Newsy Lalonde, C
39. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
40. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Milt Schmidt, C
41. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montreal - Frank Nighbor, C/LW
42. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Ken Dryden, G
43. Dwight - West Island Lions - Tim Horton, D
44. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Syl Apps Sr, C
45. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - King Clancy, D
46. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bill Cook, RW
47. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Sprague Cleghorn, D
48. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Scott Stevens, D
49. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Earl Seibert, D
50. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Chris Pronger, D
51. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Frank Boucher, C
52. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Al MacInnis, D
53. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Dit Clapper, D/RW
54. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Martin Brodeur, G
55. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Charlie Conacher, RW
56. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Max Bentley, C
57. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Frank Mahovlich, LW
58. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Joe Malone, C
59. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints - Ted Kennedy, C
60. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Bill Gadsby, D
61. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Sergei Makarov, RW
62. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Borje Salming, D
63. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Jari Kurri, RW
64. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Bernie "Boom Boom" Geoffrion, RW

Round 3

65. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones - Henri Richard, C
66. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Brian Leetch, D
67. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers - Dickie Moore, LW
68. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Guy Lapointe, D
69. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Clint Benedict, G
70. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Boris Mikhailov, RW
71. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Vladislav Tretiak, G
72. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Valeri Vasiliev, D
73. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Turk Broda, G
74. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Andy Bathgate, RW
75. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Peter Forsberg, C
76. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads - Mark Howe, D
77. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Sergei Fedorov, C
78. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bill Quackenbush, D
79. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Anatoli Firsov, LW
80. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montreal - Cy Denneny, LW
81. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Alex Delvecchio, LW/C
82. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Aurel Joliat, LW
83. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Rod Langway, D
84. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Norm Ullman, C
85. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Serge Savard, D
86. Dwight - West Island Lions - Elmer Lach, C
87. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Marcel Dionne, C
88. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Dave Keon, C
89. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Doug Gilmour, C
90. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Zdeno Chara, D
91. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Gilbert Perreault, C
92. tony d - Garnish Cougars - JC Tremblay, D
93. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Doug Bentley, LW/C
94. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Sid Abel, C/LW
95. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Teemu Selanne, RW
96. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Brett Hull, RW

Round 4

97. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers - Johnny Bucyk, LW
98. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Jack Stewart, D
99. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds - Alexander Ovechkin, LW
100. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs - Eddie Gerard, D/LW
101. tony d - Garnish Cougars - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
102. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers - Scott Niedermayer, D
103. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan - Johnny Bower, G
104. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Harvey "Busher" Jackson, LW
105. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA - Hooley Smith, C/RW
106. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Bill Cowley, C
107. Dwight - West Island Lions - Toe Blake, LW
108. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans - Jarome Iginla, RW
109. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Peter Stastny, C
110. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW
111. DaveG - Lada Togliatti - Frank Brimsek, G
112. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons - Brendan Shanahan, LW
113. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Bernie Parent, G
114. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets - Pavel Bure, RW
115. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France - Sidney Crosby, C
116. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos - Ron Francis, C
117. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers - Alexei Kasatonov, D
118. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK - Nels Stewart, C/LW
119. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks - Jacques Laperriere, D
120. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Cam Neely, RW
121. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ching Johnson, D
122. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats - Roy Conacher, LW
123. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
124. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
125. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
126. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
127. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
128. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 5

129. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
130. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
131. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
132. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
133. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
134. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
135. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
136. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
137. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
138. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
139. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
140. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
141. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
142. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
143. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
144. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
145. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
146. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
147. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
148. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
149. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
150. Dwight - West Island Lions
151. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
152. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
153. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
154. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
155. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
156. tony d - Garnish Cougars
157. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
158. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
159. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
160. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 6

161. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
162. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
163. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
164. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
165. tony d - Garnish Cougars
166. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
167. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
168. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
169. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
170. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
171. Dwight - West Island Lions
172. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
173. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
174. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
175. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
176. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
177. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
178. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
179. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
180. 218. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
181. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
182. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
183. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
184. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
185. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
186. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
187. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
188. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
189. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
190. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
191. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
192. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 7

193. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
194. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
195. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
196. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
197. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
198. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
199. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
200. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
201. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
202. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
203. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
204. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
205. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
206. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
207. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
208. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
209. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
210. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
211. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
212. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
213. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
214. Dwight - West Island Lions
215. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
216. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
217. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
218. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
219. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
220. tony d - Garnish Cougars
221. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
222. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
223. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
224. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 8

225. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
226. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
227. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
228. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
229. tony d - Garnish Cougars
230. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
231. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
232. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
233. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
234. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
235. Dwight - West Island Lions
236. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
237. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
238. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
239. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
240. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
241. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
242. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
243. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
244. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
245. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
246. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
247. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
248. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
249. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
250. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
251. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
252. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
253. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
254. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
255. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
256. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA

Round 9

257. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
258. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
259. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
260. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
261. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
262. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
263. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
264. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
265. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
266. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
267. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
268. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
269. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
270. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
271. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
272. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
273. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
274. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
275. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
276. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
277. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
278. Dwight - West Island Lions
279. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
280. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
281. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
282. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
283. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
284. tony d - Garnish Cougars
285. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
286. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
287. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
288. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 10

289. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
290. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
291. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
292. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
293. tony d - Garnish Cougars
294. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
295. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
296. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
297. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
298. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
299. Dwight - West Island Lions
300. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
301. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
302. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
303. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
304. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
305. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
306. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
307. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
308. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
309. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
310. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
311. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
312. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
313. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
314. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
315. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
316. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
317. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
318. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
319. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
320. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA

Round 11

321. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
322. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
323. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
324. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
325. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
326. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
327. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
328. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
329. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
330. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
331. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
332. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
333. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
334. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
335. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
336. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
337. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
338. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
339. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
340. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
341. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
342. Dwight - West Island Lions
343. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
344. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
345. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
346. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
347. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
348. tony d - Garnish Cougars
349. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
350. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
351. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
352. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 12

353. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
354. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
355. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
356. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
357. tony d - Garnish Cougars
358. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
359. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
360. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
361. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
362. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
363. Dwight - West Island Lions
364. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
365. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
366. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
367. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
368. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
369. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
370. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
371. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
372. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
373. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
374. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
375. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
376. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
377. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
378. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
379. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
380. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
381. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
382. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
383. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
384. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 13

385. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
386. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
387. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
388. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
389. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
390. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
391. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
392. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
393. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
394. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
395. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
396. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
397. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
398. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
399. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
400. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
401. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
402. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
403. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
404. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
405. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
406. Dwight - West Island Lions
407. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
408. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
409. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
410. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
411. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
412. tony d - Garnish Cougars
413. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
414. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
415. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
416. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 14

417. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
418. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
419. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
420. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
421. tony d - Garnish Cougars
422. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
423. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
424. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
425. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
426. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
427. Dwight - West Island Lions
428. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
429. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
430. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
431. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
432. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
433. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
434. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
435. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
436. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
437. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
438. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
439. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
440. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
441. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
442. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
443. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
444. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
445. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
446. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
447. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
448. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 15

449. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
450. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
451. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
452. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
453. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
454. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
455. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
456. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
457. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
458. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
459. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
460. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
461. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
462. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
463. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
464. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
465. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
466. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
467. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
468. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
469. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
470. Dwight - West Island Lions
471. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
472. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
473. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
474. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
475. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
476. tony d - Garnish Cougars
477. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
478. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
479. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
480. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 16

481. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
482. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
483. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
484. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
485. tony d - Garnish Cougars
486. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
487. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
488. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
489. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
490. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
491. Dwight - West Island Lions
492. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
493. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
494. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
495. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
496. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
497. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
498. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
499. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
500. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
501. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
502. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
503. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
504. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
505. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
506. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
507. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
508. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
509. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
510. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
511. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
512. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 17

513. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
514. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
515. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
516. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
517. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
518. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
519. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
520. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
521. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
522. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
523. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
524. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
525. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
526. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
527. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
528. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
529. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
530. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
531. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
532. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
533. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
534. Dwight - West Island Lions
535. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
536. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
537. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
538. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
539. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
540. tony d - Garnish Cougars
541. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
542. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
543. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
544. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 18

545. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
546. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
547. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
548. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
549. tony d - Garnish Cougars
550. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
551. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
552. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
553. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
554. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
555. Dwight - West Island Lions
556. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
557. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
558. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
559. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
560. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
561. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
562. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
563. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
564. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
565. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
566. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
567. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
568. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
569. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
570. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
571. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
572. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
573. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
574. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
575. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
576. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 19

577. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
578. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
579. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
580. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
581. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
582. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
583. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
584. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
585. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
586. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
587. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
588. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
589. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
590. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
591. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
592. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
593. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
594. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
595. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
596. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
597. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
598. Dwight - West Island Lions
599. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
600. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
601. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
602. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
603. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
604. tony d - Garnish Cougars
605. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
606. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
607. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
608. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 20

609. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
610. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
611. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
612. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
613. tony d - Garnish Cougars
614. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
615. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
616. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
617. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
618. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
619. Dwight - West Island Lions
620. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
621. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
622. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
623. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
624. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
625. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
626. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
627. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
628. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
629. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
630. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
631. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
632. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
633. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
634. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
635. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
636. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
637. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
638. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
639. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
640. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 21

641. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
642. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
643. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
644. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
645. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
646. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
647. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
648. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
649. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
650. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
651. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
652. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
653. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
654. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
655. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
656. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
657. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
658. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
659. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
660. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
661. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
662. Dwight - West Island Lions
663. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
664. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
665. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
666. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
667. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
668. tony d - Garnish Cougars
669. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
670. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
671. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
672. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 22

673. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
674. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
675. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
676. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
677. tony d - Garnish Cougars
678. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
679. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
680. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
681. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
682. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
683. Dwight - West Island Lions
684. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
685. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
686. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
687. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
688. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
689. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
690. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
691. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
692. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
693. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
694. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
695. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
696. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
697. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
698. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
699. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
700. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
701. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
702. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
703. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
704. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 23

705. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
706. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
707. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
708. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
709. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
710. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
711. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
712. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
713. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
714. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
715. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
716. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
717. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
718. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
719. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
720. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
721. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
722. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
723. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
724. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
725. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
726. Dwight - West Island Lions
727. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
728. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
729. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
730. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
731. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
732. tony d - Garnish Cougars
733. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
734. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
735. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
736. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 24

737. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
738. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
739. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
740. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
741. tony d - Garnish Cougars
742. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
743. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
744. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
745. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
746. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
747. Dwight - West Island Lions
748. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
749. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
750. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
751. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
752. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
753. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
754. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
755. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
756. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
757. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
758. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
759. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
760. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
761. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
762. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
763. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
764. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
765. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
766. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
767. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
768. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones

Round 25

769. Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Keystones
770. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
771. Billyshoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
772. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
773. vecens24 - Hamilton Mustangs
774. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
775. Hedberg & vancityluongo - Winnipeg Saints
776. Leafs Forever - Toronto St. Pats
777. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
778. Velociraptor - Australia Mighty Roos
779. Dreakmur & Hobnobs - Rogle BK
780. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints
781. markrander87 - Cincinnati Fireworks
782. EagleBelfour - L'équipe Nationale de France
783. Modo - Dawson City Nuggets
784. DaveG - Lada Togliatti
785. jkrx - Winnipeg Falcons
786. BenchBrawl - Les Canadiens de Montréal
787. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
788. DoMakc - Atlanta Thrashers
789. chaosrevolver - Seattle Metropolitans
790. Dwight - West Island Lions
791. Mr Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters
792. God Made Me & hungryhungryhippy - 1893 Montreal AAA
793. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
794. nik jr - Ak Bars Kazan
795. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
796. tony d - Garnish Cougars
797. Stoneberg & raleh - Halifax Mooseheads
798. Reds4Life - Detroit Reds
799. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
800. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Trades:

To Cincinatti: All of New Jersey's picks, starting at 13
To Ak Bars Kazan All of Cincinatti's, picks starting at 26
To New Jersey: All Ak Bars Kazan's, picks starting at 31

To Hamilton Mustangs: All of Kimberley's picks, starting at 8 (later traded to Toronto St. Pats)
To Kimberley Dynamiters: All of Hamilton's picks, starting at 13.

To Hamilton Mustangs - All of picks Toronto's picks starting at 5
To Toronto St. Pats- All of Hamilton's picks starting at 8

To Ak Bars Kazan: 24 and 41
To 1893 Montreal AAA: 26 and 39

To Kenora: 23 and 170
To Kimberley: 59 and 70. 59 was later traded to Winnipeg

To Vancouver Millionaires- #42, #106
To Kimberley Dynamiters- #25, #153

To 1893 Montreal AAA - 36, 93, and 157
To Halifax - 39, 88, 152

To Montreal Canadiens: 41, 154, 218
To Ak Bars Kazan: 47, 146, 210

To Winnipeg Saints - #59, #151
To Kimberley Dynamiters - #71, #122

To Toronto St. Pats - #51, #78
To L'équipe Nationale de France - #57 #72

To Hamilton Mustangs: 76th and 140th
To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 60th and 188th

To Cincinatti Fireworks:74,119,183
To Australia Mighty Roos: 77,116,180

To Hamilton: 88, 100, 152, 228
To Halifax: 76, 133, 140, 261

To Toronto St. Pats: #83, #110
To Chicago Shamrocks: #78, #121

To Lada Togliatti: #82, #111
To Les Canadiens de Montréal: #80, #113

To Vancouver Millionaires: #83 and #185
To Toronto St. Pats: #89 and #168

To Kimberley: #110, #136, #200, #249
To Toronto St. Pats: #87, #153, #215, #279

To Hamilton Mustangs: 89, 215, 264, 392, #441
To Toronto St. Pats: 124, 152, 252, 380, #453

To Minnesota Fighting Saints: 109th overall and 212th overall
To Atlanta Thrashers: 117th overal and 181st overall

To Les Canadiens de Montréal: 138, 180
To Australia Mighty Roos: 113, 218

Pittsburgh Keystones gets 216, 233, and 297
1893 Montreal AAA gets 193, 256, and 320

Toronto St. Pats get #122, #200
Kimberley Dynamiters get #152, #153


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wow, a whole draft thread done already and I've only read the first couple of pages. At this point I don't think I'll ever go back and read the discussion.

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Also an idea for this thread, let's keep the pointless posts to a minimum. Discussing picks is one thing, but asking where people are after ten mins, etc will be deleted. We're pace for about 20 threads right now.

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With Clancy out, I've decided to go in a different direction and take a forward who is both an offensive and physical force. With the 46th overall pick, the Chicago Shamrocks select Bill Cook, RW

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With Clancy out, I've decided to go in a different direction and take a forward who is both an offensive and physical force. With the 46th overall pick, the Chicago Shamrocks select Bill Cook, RW
He was my 2nd choice after Nighbor !

Great pick.

Trade him to me for my 238th pick please

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Here are my thoughts on some picks up to now:

- hasn't Lidstrom unequivocally proven himself better than Potvin at this point? It was obviously the physicality skillset VR must have been looking for, but at the 10th pick is physicality enough to make you ignore an obviously better player? If physicality was my MO, I'd still start with Lidstrom and then build with physicality after that, when the differences from pick to pick aren't so rigid.

- I like Maurice Richard right there.

- I like Mikita at 13th, and I like him better than Morenz, but just by a hair. I'm surprised to see Morenz last 6 more spots.

- tony d got an epic steal at 28th with Messier. Not that 28th in itself is such a steal - it is fairly appropriate. but when you look at Trottier and Clarke at 15th/16th, Messier - who is arguably better - looks absolutely golden. I sure like Mess and Hall over Clarke/Trottier and 49th/50th picks.

- No problem with Hasek 14th at all... but Chaos and dwight sure have to be happy getting Roy and Plante when they did... particularly when an inferior goalie was taken in-between.

- Is there really a case for Laflaur going before Jagr?

- Sakic ahead of Yzerman... by just a few spots. I like.

- TDMM must be pretty thrilled to get Park after Coffey was taken.

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Also an idea for this thread, let's keep the pointless posts to a minimum. Discussing picks is one thing, but asking where people are after ten mins, etc will be deleted. We're pace for about 20 threads right now.
yeah, that is ridiculous.

There will need to be a lot of vigilant thread-pruning going on throughout the draft and I hope you guys are up to it. Don't be scared to merge people's posts that are close to eachother and could have been posted together.

Looks like I can help - the domain name change here means that the systems at work no longer block HF! (at least for now)

without looking back at that first thread, I'm thinking that for there to be 1000 posts in 1.4 rounds of drafting, there had to be a lot of nonsense in there and we could probably still be using that thread if it were pruned.

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Kazan picks D Sprague Cleghorn.


yes, he was dangerously violent and possibly a sociopath, but was also elite in basically every part of hockey. very fast, very good defensively, high scoring player, big for his era, very physical.

and many other very dirty players have been picked. shore, howe, lindsay, chelios, lalonde, harvey, clarke, early mikita.

edit: might as well add potvin and messier


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wow, a whole draft thread done already and I've only read the first couple of pages. At this point I don't think I'll ever go back and read the discussion.
couple of key discussions I remember

1) a whole lot of discussion about pick 5-12 or so , the usual ( remember Maurice Richard being discussed more than the others )

2) a goalie discussion ( hasek , sawchuk , roy and plante battle )

3) a defenseman discussion ( mostly kelly vs potvin , their offense etc )

4) early statistical discussion and comparison since they all got picked in the same range

5) we're now discussing whether clancy was the best D available by far

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- Is there really a case for Laflaur going before Jagr?
- better playoff perfomer
- easier to build around
- less negatives
- you don't have to make sure there is enough casinos in town

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Kazan picks D Sprague Cleghorn.


yes, he was dangerously violent and possibly a sociopath, but was also elite in basically every part of hockey. very fast, very good defensively, high scoring player, big for his era, very physical.

and many other very dirty players have been picked. shore, howe, lindsay, chelios, lalonde, harvey, clarke, early mikita.
Nice pick, I took a real long look at him when I was trying to decide who to take. I think skill-wise he was the best available defenseman, although some could argue that his attitude issues drop him below other less skilled Dmen

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With Clancy out, I've decided to go in a different direction and take a forward who is both an offensive and physical force. With the 46th overall pick, the Chicago Shamrocks select Bill Cook, RW
Nice, we were between him and Kharlamov at 39.

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- tony d got an epic steal at 28th with Messier. Not that 28th in itself is such a steal - it is fairly appropriate. but when you look at Trottier and Clarke at 15th/16th, Messier - who is arguably better - looks absolutely golden. I sure like Mess and Hall over Clarke/Trottier and 49th/50th picks.
Thanks, on in Round 1 I was between Messier and Bossy with Park being a distant 3rd. When I thought about it even more I figured Messier was the logical pick. When Bossy wentthe decision was made easier.

As to Hall, I had no intention of picking a goalie this early but when he started slipping from his position from last year I knew I had to pick him. The guy is one of the top goalies ever, thrilled to have him with the team.

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- Sakic ahead of Yzerman... by just a few spots. I like.
I usually would say flip a coin between them but in my situation, Sakic's offensive longevity combined with good defense won out over Yzerman's more polarized career.

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I'm sure he was.. Park was definitely the safe pick but my mission this ATD is to resurrect the Paul Coffey everyone seems to have forgotten about.

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Kazan picks D Sprague Cleghorn.


yes, he was dangerously violent and possibly a sociopath, but was also elite in basically every part of hockey. very fast, very good defensively, high scoring player, big for his era, very physical.

and many other very dirty players have been picked. shore, howe, lindsay, chelios, lalonde, harvey, clarke, early mikita.

edit: might as well add potvin and messier
Had him last year, Here's the bio I created for him last year, he is a great pick at this point, I kind of see him as a less impressive version of Denis Potvin, albeit much more ferocious and ruthless.

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- better playoff perfomer
- easier to build around
- less negatives
- you don't have to make sure there is enough casinos in town
Are we really accepting Jagr is more of a hard partier than Lafleur?

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Are we really accepting Jagr is more of a hard partier than Lafleur?
I didn't imply it. Wasn't Lafleur more of a nightclub than a casino type?

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01-25-2012, 10:59 AM
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Are we really accepting Jagr is more of a hard partier than Lafleur?
Yeah that's a tough one. Although both certainly bring that element to be sure.

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I didn't imply it. Wasn't Lafleur more of a nightclub than a casino type?
Quite possibly. I wasn't sure if it was a serious dig at Jagr's off court behaviour or a joke.

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01-25-2012, 11:08 AM
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Nice pick, I took a real long look at him when I was trying to decide who to take. I think skill-wise he was the best available defenseman, although some could argue that his attitude issues drop him below other less skilled Dmen
definitely has serious negatives

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Had him last year, Here's the bio I created for him last year, he is a great pick at this point, I kind of see him as a less impressive version of Denis Potvin, albeit much more ferocious and ruthless.
thanks

i also found 70s' bio of cleghorn from ATD2010.


cleghorn was probably not a sociopath, though. from 70s' bio:
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For years Sprague Cleghorn was regarded as a bad man to tangle with in professional hockey, but there never was a player who could make him retreat. There were times when he was held up to severe criticism, and Cleghorn certainly did earn many penalties, but there was another side to this man that few understood. He was generous to a fault to his friends, and he was mighty loyal. Just recently in the frigid waters of Lake St. Francis he proved it.

With two companions, Cleghorn set out on a fishing trip, and when a mile from shore the man who couldn't swim tried to change his position in the boat, in a second it turned over. The waves were running very high, but Cleghorn and Strachan placed their pal on the bottom of the capsized boat, and started the long battle to reach the shore. For an hour and a half they struggled along, with Cleghorn, the man in charge, urging his companions to keep on battling. The weather and the water were bitterly cold, and the non-swimmer several times slipped from his precarious position, and had it not been for the fighting spirit displayed by one of the greatest hockey players who ever lived he would never have ben saved. Finally they reached what they thought was the shore only to discover that they had landed in deep muskeg, where they sank to their hips, but managed to struggle through to a barned-wire fence, where Cleghorn grasped the wire with one hand and with the other dragged the non-swimmer to terra firma. Cleghorn's hands were cruelly torn, and all three men were in bad condition, but it was not until they had reached a farmhouse that Cleghorn gave evidence of the terrific battle against death in which he had just conquered.

Those companions who struggled through with him will never forget Sprague Cleghorn, the man of iron nerve who, if necessary, would sacrifice his life to save those of his friends.

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01-25-2012, 11:11 AM
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The big issue with Cleghorn is that he would sometimes put personal grudges ahead of helping his team.

That said, Jagr-Cleghorn is an awfully good start for a team.

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Here are my thoughts on some picks up to now:

- hasn't Lidstrom unequivocally proven himself better than Potvin at this point? It was obviously the physicality skillset VR must have been looking for, but at the 10th pick is physicality enough to make you ignore an obviously better player? If physicality was my MO, I'd still start with Lidstrom and then build with physicality after that, when the differences from pick to pick aren't so rigid.

- I like Maurice Richard right there.

- I like Mikita at 13th, and I like him better than Morenz, but just by a hair. I'm surprised to see Morenz last 6 more spots.

- tony d got an epic steal at 28th with Messier. Not that 28th in itself is such a steal - it is fairly appropriate. but when you look at Trottier and Clarke at 15th/16th, Messier - who is arguably better - looks absolutely golden. I sure like Mess and Hall over Clarke/Trottier and 49th/50th picks.

- No problem with Hasek 14th at all... but Chaos and dwight sure have to be happy getting Roy and Plante when they did... particularly when an inferior goalie was taken in-between.

- Is there really a case for Laflaur going before Jagr?

- Sakic ahead of Yzerman... by just a few spots. I like.

- TDMM must be pretty thrilled to get Park after Coffey was taken.
You really need that sleep you were talking about.

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01-25-2012, 11:15 AM
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Our second round pick will be the exact same player I drafted last year at the exact same spot (#48).


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01-25-2012, 11:19 AM
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It's interesting that the Vancouver Millionaires traded out of the top 39 so 40 was their first pick. I don't know if anyone has done this before, and if so, how they did. Someone please enlighten me.

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On a side not. One PM should suffice when it's my turn I dont need three PMs from three GMs. It's clogging up my inbox.

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