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01-25-2012, 10:06 PM
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I'm aware of that. You proposed a bad trade. You found a Leaf fan to agree with you and then you laughed at the fact that someone said "are you serious?"

Some nice nitpicking.
Considering I think the JJ trade is even better and majority of the King fans agree with that, your comment holds no value. You are not getting a number 1 center for what has been previously proposed.

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But he clearly does want out. He didn't lose his talent. He's not playing with any passion because he knows the team he's on is going nowhere this season. He almost won the Cup two seasons ago. Now he's on a lottery team. His play is indicative of unhappiness. You're right; it doesn't mean, 100%, "he wants out". It does mean "he's not happy".

And everyone balking at the years... yes, it's along contract. That's the new norm though in the NHL and don't act otherwise. The only reason you're put off by the years is because YOUR team would have to give up assets to acquire him. If you convince yourself/others that the term on his contract is a negative than you feel like you can justify giving up LESS assets. Not gonna happen. Guys get long deals to keep the cap hit low all the time. If Carter's play declines, his salary will be low by the age at which it happens and a team with lots of cap space will take on his cap number and still not have to pay him as much. If he retires, the cap hit goes away. We all know this. It's nothing new. Stop acting like the contract makes him worth Halak, Ryder and a 2nd.

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Awful trade for Boston.
The guy who proposed it was clearly joking to perk CLB fans' interest...

Obvious sarcasm. Some guy took the bait.

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Considering I think the JJ trade is even better and majority of the King fans agree with that, your comment holds no value. You are not getting a number 1 center for what has been previously proposed.
Oh boy.

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I see him going to the Leafs.

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Carter to Boston for Krejeci + Hamilton + '12 and '13 1sts?
There are only a few players in the league that can return a package like that. Carter is not one of them.

Edit- I guess my sarcasm detector is broken.

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Carter to Boston for Krejeci + Hamilton + '12 and '13 1sts?
Yeah...I bet Boston doesn't do Krejci straight up for Carter.

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The guy who proposed it was clearly joking to perk CLB fans' interest...

Obvious sarcasm. Some guy took the bait.



Oh boy.
Because someone finally offered fair value, you're right, I should have seen it coming.

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Not to the Rangers, please.

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Because someone finally offered fair value, you're right, I should have seen it coming.
That's more than you gave up for him.

I must have missed Carter's name in the top 5 in NHL scoring this season.

Let me double check that...

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The guy who proposed it was clearly joking to perk CLB fans' interest...

Obvious sarcasm. Some guy took the bait.



Oh boy.
Please post a proposal on what you think is fair. You're here criticizing every counter offer yet you dont post anything in response to it. Obviously there will be no deal since Toronto players are too good for Jeff Carter.

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Why are they giving up on him so early? Give the man some time and a solid team around him. IMO, he isn't a center that is going to lead a team to a Cup, but he can definitely be a major contributor.

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Because someone finally offered fair value, you're right, I should have seen it coming.
You're making your franchise LOOK so bad.

Krejci > Voracek
Hamilton < Couturier, but not by a lot
2012 1st > Nothing
2013 1st > Nothing

You really think you're going to get MORE than he was originally traded for, after he's had a bad season? Not just MORE, but MUCH MORE. Please, stop before people label ALL CBJ fans morons.

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Because someone finally offered fair value, you're right, I should have seen it coming.
You think Krejci + Hamilton + 2 1sts is fair value?

Oh my...

Go make a proposal thread and see how Bruins fans feel about that.

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Please post a proposal on what you think is fair. You're here criticizing every counter offer yet you dont post anything in response to it. Obviously there will be no deal since Toronto players are too good for Jeff Carter.
I already did propose something in this thread. Nice try.

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Schenn + Kulemin and/subtract picks and i think we have a deal.
The Leafs wouldn't do that in the summer, why would they do it now?

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That's more than you gave up for him.

I must have missed Carter's name in the top 5 in NHL scoring this season.

Let me double check that...
Yeah, they overpaid. But at least it was something we would take unlike almost every single other proposal in this thread.

I think you are going to make me triple my post count tonight.

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Please post a proposal on what you think is fair. You're here criticizing every counter offer yet you dont post anything in response to it. Obviously there will be no deal since Toronto players are too good for Jeff Carter.
Oh god, this won't be good.

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The Leafs wouldn't do that in the summer, why would they do it now?
Go read the thread.

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Yeah, they overpaid. But at least it was something we would take unlike almost every single other proposal in this thread.

I think you are going to make me triple my post count tonight.



Oh god, this won't be good.
Post of the freaking year.

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Why are they giving up on him so early? Give the man some time and a solid team around him. IMO, he isn't a center that is going to lead a team to a Cup, but he can definitely be a major contributor.
I think because Columbus realize that trade didn't work and Carter doesn't seem really that thrilled to be there. Carters ntc kicks in on July 1st I believe, and then Carter holds all the cards if they decide to part ways after that. So put him on the block, cut their ties and recover from a very bad decision.

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Schneider, Ballard for Carter and Savard?

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Schneider, Ballard for Carter and Savard?
Ouch.

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I am a HabsFan, and...

you need to add Nash to that deal!!




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You think Krejci + Hamilton + 2 1sts is fair value?

Oh my...

Go make a proposal thread and see how Bruins fans feel about that.



I already did propose something in this thread. Nice try.

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01-25-2012, 10:22 PM
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Agreed. It's a shame too. Carter could really push the Blues to contender status.
Yeah definitely, he's pretty much exactly what St. Louis needs right now, a center with size that loves to shoot the puck. Plus he's been to the finals recently.

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you need to add Nash to that deal!!
Only if we add Johansen and a first too!!

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Only on HF can a guy get traded less than a year ago, be rumoured to be available again, and have such a wide range of values according to some.

His cap hit is reasonably attractive when he is playing well, but his lack of passion in his game, the injuries, and the 10 year deal have probably lowered his value slightly, but not too much.

He should still be worth a top 10 pick and a younger roster player needing a change of scenery, but that's about it.

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Because someone finally offered fair value, you're right, I should have seen it coming.
How on Earth is that fair value? There's what, 24 points difference between Krejci and Carter over the last 3 years?

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