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*This is following the assumption that Suter and Weber both re-sign in the offseason.
Vancouver needs - Defensemen
Tampa Bay needs - Goaltending/Defense
Nashville needs - Offense
Tampa Bay (Lose Connolly, Downie)
Cory Schneider (RFA)
Kevin Klein (1 year left)
Jordin Tootoo (UFA)
*Conditional 3rd from Vancouver if Tootoo doesn't re-sign
Nashville (Lose Blum, Klein, Tootoo)
Brett Connolly (3 year ELC)
Mason Raymond (RFA)
*Conditional 3rd from Nashville if Tootoo re-signs
Vancouver (Lose Schneider, Raymond)
Jonathon Blum
Steve Downie
I don't see the Canucks giving up Schneider that cheap.
I would say its a pretty good return. I know Blum isn't developed to the point where he is a solid contributor yet, but he's not that far off of being a top 4 guy and definitely projects as a top pairing d-man.
They also get Steve Downie, who is pretty much a physical version of Raymond.
Gives Vancouver another solid 2nd/3rd line tweener, and a future RH partner for Edler.
As a Canucks fan, I would do this in an instant (as much as I'd hate to trade Schneider or Raymond).
I think Tampa is the only team that hesitates.
I included Tootoo because while he may not have the skills and upside of Downie, he replaces a lot of the intangibles they lose.
Connolly is a good young prospect, but it seems there has been a decent amount of people who consider Connolly and Schneider to be of similar value. I figured a blue chip d-man such as Blum would be a more fitting need for Van than another center prospect.
I'd rather not trade Schneider at the deadline or during the season, he's just too valuable to the team during a playoff run. He could still fetch a pretty penny at the draft.
I don't think that offer is that bad from Canucks POV...
Frankly I think a lot of my fellow Canuck fans have too high a price on Schneider and will be a bit disappointed with the return we get for him. I say this because I feel Schneider will fetch us something similar to what Halak and Varlamov fetched their former clubs.
I think the Canucks might need a little more coming back, since we are also moving Raymond, but I like this deal as IMO we add a solid young top 4 guy in Blum, and a gritty/tough top 9 guy in Downie.
Can someone tell me the last time a substantial 3 team trade actually went down? I know it happens occasionally but the only ones I have ever seen are a player for a pick then the pick or player is immediately traded for another player or pick, not really a true 3- way deal with all three teams in agreement at the outset as the above trade would have to be
Take out the conditional picks. Toss a conditional pick (Tootoo) from Nashville to Tampa and I think the deal works better (5th if he re-signs, 3rd if he doesn't).
This is a pretty strong 3 way proposal, value wise. I think to add some balance to it Tampa Bay needs a guaranteed third rounder, and Vancouver may need a goalie. Either Roloson, or Garon coming back because Lack needs at least this season in the AHL.
The value is there (and then some) for Nashville, but this move has the potential to make them noticeably worse this year. And that's probably not the best approach if Poile wants to keep Suter and Weber, given their demands.
We don't really need Blum in the offseason, we already have Tanev struggling to join our ranks. If we're moving Schneider to Tampa I'd like their 1st or Connolly on it's way back. We don't really need Downie, there will be an abundance of UFA money ball options out there. Plus, I have a feeling we will grab a guy at trade deadline making acquiring a guy like Downie a bit more redundant.
