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01-30-2012, 01:17 AM
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I think we'll see K Conn take a route to the NHL very much like Slava Voynov. They also have very similar first year AHL stats.

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01-30-2012, 01:53 AM
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But you never thought he would be a strong pro player in the AHL either did you? I assume not considering the lack of hockey sense or coachability...

It seems he's proven you wrong once already. Maybe he does it again?
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Because your hockey IQ is set in stone at age 15 with no room for improvement?...
Took the words out of my head.

If you asked me last season, I'd say some of the decisions and defensive plays Connauton made were truly disgusting at times and it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth. However, he has turned around his game and is continuing to improve this season. This is not a guy who is unwilling to change or learn. He worked on his skating in the off-season and IMO, has worked really well with MacT and Karl Taylor, who both deserve credit here. They've really changed his game around - making better reads/simpler plays, getting in position and truly understanding where he should be might be the biggest change in his game. Last season, he looked lost literally. His off-season training really helped with his footspeed and that also helps with getting back in time for rushes against as well as up the ice. He knows when to pinch and when not to now. I'm thoroughly impressed with him this season.

Now i'd have had this video up by now, but my computer/adobe was on the fritz all weekend. Was tough cutting this down to only 6 minutes. Enjoy.


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01-30-2012, 01:56 AM
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I played with Connaution when he was 15. Although he is a great skater and great shot, I just do not see him figuring it all out to be a valuable NHLer. His hockey sense is very low, he makes bad passes constantly, seems unwilling to learn or listen to anybody. His upside is 3rd pairing (paired with very good defensively d-man) PP specialist, IMO. It's possible he's changed and he was an alright guy, but he did not seem the type of guy that would change his attitude.
I was pretty much a borderline retard when I was 15. I only think it's recently - probably at 23, 24 - that I've emerged as a thoughtful, patient human being. People should never be pigeon holed that young, as life often slaps you in the face for a wake up call much later.

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01-30-2012, 02:28 AM
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Hamhuis + Edler probbly never happens because they are both left handed.

they're both such good defensemen that you want them on their proper side.
If you read the discussion, you'll see that I was in no way suggesting that we go with any of those pairings... just that I don't think Hamhuis is going to be any less effective without Bieksa.

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01-30-2012, 02:44 AM
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Connauton's improvement this year really makes me curious about what a couple of years with MacT could do for rounding out McNally's game.
Who even knows if MacT will be still be coaching the farm team in a few years?

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01-30-2012, 02:55 AM
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Who even knows if MacT will be still be coaching the farm team in a few years?
After hearing about Schroeder, Tanev, Connauton, and Rodin's progress under his coaching I really hope the Nucks make it worth his while to stay. Player development is king in a cap league.

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01-30-2012, 02:57 AM
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01-30-2012, 05:55 AM
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Took the words out of my head.

If you asked me last season, I'd say some of the decisions and defensive plays Connauton made were truly disgusting at times and it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth. However, he has turned around his game and is continuing to improve this season. This is not a guy who is unwilling to change or learn. He worked on his skating in the off-season and IMO, has worked really well with MacT and Karl Taylor, who both deserve credit here. They've really changed his game around - making better reads/simpler plays, getting in position and truly understanding where he should be might be the biggest change in his game. Last season, he looked lost literally. His off-season training really helped with his footspeed and that also helps with getting back in time for rushes against as well as up the ice. He knows when to pinch and when not to now. I'm thoroughly impressed with him this season.

Now i'd have had this video up by now, but my computer/adobe was on the fritz all weekend. Was tough cutting this down to only 6 minutes. Enjoy.


Great vid.

- he has awesome offense instincts.
- good to see him willing to drop the gloves.
- makes some real nice defensive plays without taking a penalty.
- and holy **** is he fast, at least from what little I've known of him.

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01-30-2012, 06:02 AM
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as much as im reading into things, hes looking more and more like a hyper-competitive never-say-never "lock" to make the nhl in SOME capacity kind of player. of all of our prospects not with the team, i'd give connauton to make the league in some form or another

by the way, i really like how you tried to get clips from different events that end/start with the players in the same fashion - at times there was the illusion of there being a continuous game against multiple different teams and it was well done (i can only imagine how ****ing hard it would be to do with AHL levels of footage)

you can never have too many tryhards when it comes to hockey

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01-30-2012, 07:05 AM
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Took the words out of my head.

If you asked me last season, I'd say some of the decisions and defensive plays Connauton made were truly disgusting at times and it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth. However, he has turned around his game and is continuing to improve this season. This is not a guy who is unwilling to change or learn. He worked on his skating in the off-season and IMO, has worked really well with MacT and Karl Taylor, who both deserve credit here. They've really changed his game around - making better reads/simpler plays, getting in position and truly understanding where he should be might be the biggest change in his game. Last season, he looked lost literally. His off-season training really helped with his footspeed and that also helps with getting back in time for rushes against as well as up the ice. He knows when to pinch and when not to now. I'm thoroughly impressed with him this season.

Now i'd have had this video up by now, but my computer/adobe was on the fritz all weekend. Was tough cutting this down to only 6 minutes. Enjoy.


Great vid.

- he has awesome offense instincts.
- good to see him willing to drop the gloves.
- makes some real nice defensive plays without taking a penalty.
- and holy **** is he fast, at least from what little I've known of him.

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01-30-2012, 08:28 AM
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I played with Connaution when he was 15. Although he is a great skater and great shot, I just do not see him figuring it all out to be a valuable NHLer. His hockey sense is very low, he makes bad passes constantly, seems unwilling to learn or listen to anybody. His upside is 3rd pairing (paired with very good defensively d-man) PP specialist, IMO. It's possible he's changed and he was an alright guy, but he did not seem the type of guy that would change his attitude.
OMG a teenager with a bad attitude!

I'm going to go with the assessment of his current coaching staff and organization which know a little something about hockey.

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01-30-2012, 09:28 AM
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I played with Connaution when he was 15. Although he is a great skater and great shot, I just do not see him figuring it all out to be a valuable NHLer. His hockey sense is very low, he makes bad passes constantly, seems unwilling to learn or listen to anybody. His upside is 3rd pairing (paired with very good defensively d-man) PP specialist, IMO. It's possible he's changed and he was an alright guy, but he did not seem the type of guy that would change his attitude.
As someone who watched a lot of high level hockey for that age group (my brother played at the level), it isn't uncommon for kids specially naturally talented kids to have this issue with both the hockey sense and coachability.

I'm sure his coachability issue has been rectified as he wouldn't have made it to where he is now if it wasn't.

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01-30-2012, 11:44 AM
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I love Connautons skating ability.

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01-30-2012, 12:06 PM
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From where I'm standing, which involves not having seen a ton of this guy outside of highlights videos, and poster game reviews, I don't see how he isn't pretty close to a blue chipper. With that size and skating ability plus some good offensive instincts it seems like absolute worst case scenario you get a much bigger MA Bergeron who will drop the gloves.

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As someone who watched a lot of high level hockey for that age group (my brother played at the level), it isn't uncommon for kids specially naturally talented kids to have this issue with both the hockey sense and coachability.

I'm sure his coachability issue has been rectified as he wouldn't have made it to where he is now if it wasn't.
Don Hay considered him coachable and Hay is not easy to impress.

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01-30-2012, 02:40 PM
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From where I'm standing, which involves not having seen a ton of this guy outside of highlights videos, and poster game reviews, I don't see how he isn't pretty close to a blue chipper. With that size and skating ability plus some good offensive instincts it seems like absolute worst case scenario you get a much bigger MA Bergeron who will drop the gloves.
Sounds like Dion Phaneuf.

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From where I'm standing, which involves not having seen a ton of this guy outside of highlights videos, and poster game reviews, I don't see how he isn't pretty close to a blue chipper. With that size and skating ability plus some good offensive instincts it seems like absolute worst case scenario you get a much bigger MA Bergeron who will drop the gloves.
Kurtis Foster pre-femur fracture is a better comparison to me.

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Just watched that video for the first time. Dear God in heaven. A bit more seasoning and I think we might have a really special player there.

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From the limited viewing I have had of him, dude has wheels. I think he could turn into a more physical version of Ehrhoff or Bieksa with better offensive instincts. Dude has some real good acceleration and a heavy shot. If he can be average or even slightly below average defensively he will be a very useful player.

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That video showed some really nice chemistry between him and Tanev. But oh my, can Connauton fly. What acceleration!

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If you rewound time he'd have been be one heck of winger.

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If you rewound time he'd have been be one heck of winger.
Nah.

Perfect defensman for the type of game the Canucks play.

His defense is much improved. This kid has big league potential.

Boy can he shoot it, wrister, clapper, backhand deke, snap shot...he's got them all...

Getting it through is the most important factor and he does that A LOT.

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Watched a bit of this guy in the AHL all-star game tonight; sniped a goal. I didn't know he was that big, and he can move. Liked the look of him.

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Nah.

Perfect defensman for the type of game the Canucks play.

His defense is much improved. This kid has big league potential.

Boy can he shoot it, wrister, clapper, backhand deke, snap shot...he's got them all...

Getting it through is the most important factor and he does that A LOT.
Looks like a prototype canuck D. Not trying to change him to a winger just saying he'd have made a good winger too with that skating, skillset and size if he decided to go down that route when he was younger.

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He can play 4th line winger when a forward goes down a la Alberts

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