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01-26-2012, 06:41 PM
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01-26-2012, 06:43 PM
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Picks for Colorado's rebuild despite the fact that they have one less point than the Maple Leafs. A left winger to play with Ryan O'Reilly, who already plays with left winger Gabriel Landeskog.

It doesn't make sense for them.
Let's be candid, even if Colorado did make the playoffs, there's 0 chance they make it past the first rounder against either of the top two teams in the west.

Landeskog-Duchene-Mueller
MacArthur-O'Reilly-Jones

PIT might consider a conditional 1st/2nd rounder instead.

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01-26-2012, 06:48 PM
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Let's be candid, even if Colorado did make the playoffs, there's 0 chance they make it past the first rounder against either of the top two teams in the west.

Landeskog-Duchene-Mueller
MacArthur-O'Reilly-Jones

PIT might consider a conditional 1st/2nd rounder instead.
Please let us give up assets so you can get something for nothing. Face it, Tangradi has almost no value. He didn't have much in Anaheim. He was hyped up a bit in the Whitney trade, and since then has failed to make ANY impact.

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01-26-2012, 06:53 PM
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Tangradi's a top ten PF in the league within 5 years. Mark it.

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01-26-2012, 06:58 PM
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Tangradi's a top ten PF in the league within 5 years. Mark it.
Oh just saw your post count. Can't believe it took me that long... Congrats, you sly fox.

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01-26-2012, 06:59 PM
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Let's be candid, even if Colorado did make the playoffs, there's 0 chance they make it past the first rounder against either of the top two teams in the west.

Landeskog-Duchene-Mueller
MacArthur-O'Reilly-Jones

PIT might consider a conditional 1st/2nd rounder instead.
No where near sufficient reason for the Avalanche to trade one of their better players in Paul Stastny for a clear downgrade in Clarke MacArthur. As I said, the draft picks don't matter too much, as the Avalanche are in the thick of things now with several under-25 aged players.

David Jones has two points in his last 18 games.

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01-26-2012, 07:08 PM
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Stop putting Gunnarsson as a throw in for these proposals. He is our top pairing defenseman and getting better all the time.

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01-26-2012, 07:11 PM
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Stop putting Gunnarsson as a throw in for these proposals. He is our top pairing defenseman and getting better all the time.
I don't get why people do it. He's our best defenceman defensively and makes his partners better.

Anyway, Leafs say no to this.

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01-26-2012, 07:20 PM
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No where near sufficient reason for the Avalanche to trade one of their better players in Paul Stastny for a clear downgrade in Clarke MacArthur. As I said, the draft picks don't matter too much, as the Avalanche are in the thick of things now with several under-25 aged players.

David Jones has two points in his last 18 games.
That's putting it mildly.

Duchene - 21
O'Reilly - 20
E. Johnson - 23
Landeskog - 19
Mueller - 23
Galiardi - 23
Wilson - 23
Elliott - 20
Varlamov - 23
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Stastny - 26 (just turned)

Their CORE is made up mostly of players under 25.

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Tangradi's a top ten PF in the league within 5 years. Mark it.
If that were TRULY the case and IF you really believed it, you certainly would NOT be including him in this proposition. Also, I fail to see why Toronto and Colorado need Pittsburgh at all in this deal. The Avs would probably prefer Kulemin to McArthur anyways.

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01-26-2012, 07:37 PM
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If that were TRULY the case and IF you really believed it, you certainly would NOT be including him in this proposition.
Even though I would like to see Kuli w/ Geno more, you're right.
Deals off.

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01-26-2012, 07:53 PM
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Even though I would like to see Kuli w/ Geno more, you're right.
Deals off.
Ok...you've convinced me. Tangradi is awesome!

Nah...name one power forward that has had the same kind of mediocre start to his NHL career only to become one of the elites in the league. Name just one.

That's not to say that he cannot become a serviceable NHL player at some point. That's not even to say that he cannot become a good 2nd line player (at best) at some point. But to say that he's going to be in the top 10 in the league in PFs is a huge stretch. Nice try though.

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01-26-2012, 08:21 PM
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Not a hope from Colorado. We don't need late picks, we don't need Mac, we don't need Schenn, we don't need anybody unless it's a winger of near equal value to Stastny. Since Toronto does not have/willing to give that winger it's not going to happen.

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01-26-2012, 08:31 PM
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Ok...you've convinced me. Tangradi is awesome!

Nah...name one power forward that has had the same kind of mediocre start to his NHL career only to become one of the elites in the league. Name just one.

That's not to say that he cannot become a serviceable NHL player at some point. That's not even to say that he cannot become a good 2nd line player (at best) at some point. But to say that he's going to be in the top 10 in the league in PFs is a huge stretch. Nice try though.
PF's usually start to hit their prime around 23-26 years of age, and Tangradi is no exception. That along w/ the fact that he has had some injuries beyond his control (severe hand injury, concussion from Gillies) have lead us here in PIT to stay patient for him to develop. Plenty of PF's usually take some time to develop (ex.- Clowe's first 50-point at 28 years, Booth 24, Malone 28, Cole 27, Hartnell 25, Ladd 25, Backes 24, Franzen 28 need I continue?) Now I'm not saying he's not the next Lucic or Perry, but with NHL playing time (which he's not getting here w/ Kunitz and Neal) he'll be in the top 10-15 of them.

Besides he's heading to TOR where the GM was the person who drafted him.

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01-26-2012, 08:52 PM
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That might be the worst proposal for Stastny I've seen yet.

Colorado gives up the best player, yet get some spare garbage in return, prototypical I want your good players for our spare parts.

Think about this how many times do see high end player get traded for anything that isn't at least a top prospect and quality roster player. Not many, thats what I'd expect if the Avs were giving up Stastny.

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01-26-2012, 09:03 PM
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OMFG...the AVS really take it up the on this deal...these 3 team deals never work out thou, some1's always left taking scraps and spare parts...

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01-26-2012, 10:12 PM
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PF's usually start to hit their prime around 23-26 years of age, and Tangradi is no exception. That along w/ the fact that he has had some injuries beyond his control (severe hand injury, concussion from Gillies) have lead us here in PIT to stay patient for him to develop. Plenty of PF's usually take some time to develop (ex.- Clowe's first 50-point at 28 years, Booth 24, Malone 28, Cole 27, Hartnell 25, Ladd 25, Backes 24, Franzen 28 need I continue?) Now I'm not saying he's not the next Lucic or Perry, but with NHL playing time (which he's not getting here w/ Kunitz and Neal) he'll be in the top 10-15 of them.

Besides he's heading to TOR where the GM was the person who drafted him.
All of the players you just named, are actually NOT in the top 10 in Power Forwards in the league and each had a better NHL start than Tangradi.

Clowe
Year 1 - 18GP 0G 2A 2PTS
Year 2 - 58GP 16G 18A 34PTS

Booth
Year 1 - 48GP 3G 7A 10PTS
Year 2 - 73GP 22G 18A 40PTS

Malone
Year 1 - 81GP 22G 21A 43PTS
Year 2 - 77GP 22G 22A 44PTS

Cole
Year 1 - 81GP 16G 24A 40PTS
Year 2 - 53GP 14G 13A 27PTS

Hartnell
Year 1 - 75GP 2G 14A 16PTS
Year 2 - 75GP 14G 27A 41PTS

Ladd
Year 1 - 29GP 6G 5A 11PTS
Year 2 - 65GP 11G 10A 21PTS

SHALL I CONTINUE ??!?!

Remember now, you said he was going to be TOP 10 BEST power forwards in the league within 5 years (and then later changed it to 10 to 15 ).

If you say so, amigo. I believe you.

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01-26-2012, 10:14 PM
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PIT-TOR-COL



Paul Stastny



Eric Tangradi
Clarke MacArthur
Keith Aulie/Holzer
PIT 1st rounder



Nikolai Kulemin


Toronto gets a #1 C.
Colorado get a winger for O'Reilly and picks for their rebuild.
Pittsburgh unites two Russians.

i think this is a lil bit better but idk.

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Toronto overpays for a good center who isn't performing up to his salary...

Colorado will be looking for a bigger "name" in this deal

Pittsburgh runs and laugh, hysterically.

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Toronto overpays for a good center who isn't performing up to his salary...

Colorado will be looking for a bigger "name" in this deal

Pittsburgh runs and laugh, hysterically.
Summed up nicely.

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PIT-TOR-COL



Paul Stastny
Eric Tangradi


Clarke MacArthur
Carl Gunnarsson
TOR 1st rounder
PIT 3rd rounder


Nikolai Kulemin


Toronto gets a #1 C.
Colorado get a winger for O'Reilly and picks for their rebuild.
Pittsburgh unites two Russians.

Toronto gets absolutely murdered here..
MacArthur, Kulemin, Gunnarsson, 1st round pick
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Stastny and Tangradi?

nooo way

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Toronto gets absolutely murdered here..
MacArthur, Kulemin, Gunnarsson, 1st round pick
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Stastny and Tangradi?

nooo way
Stastny would probably cost a 1st, a young roster player, and a top prospect.

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