He isn't as good as he is being made out to be... He is a decent 3rd line center but so is Anisimov. If we stack up our centers properly it should be a LW we need, not a pivot.
I dont mind a depth C because I dont trust Mitchell even though hes done well
Pahlsson , Prospal in a package deal for picks and Zuccarello is my guess
our bud Eklund has Rangers talking to the Ducks.........like we havent heard that before
Pahlsson is a great defensive player and is probably very, very cheap being an impending UFA out of columbus.
Prospal I am not against, especially for the PP but his production has come to a standstill and one has to wonder if his legs are done. I saw him play the other day and it looks like last year Shanahan the way he has to force himself up and down the ice.
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New here just wanna say whats up before posting my thoughts.
I think that the Rangers need scoring help before they need help on defense. They need a guy who can park himself in front of the net. IMO I think thats the biggest problem with the PP. They got guys who can shoot but noone to put home rebounds.
I absolutely hate them and dont think they would ever trade with the Rangers but if the Rangers could get Moulson from the Isles I think it would help alot. Guy pops in 30 goals and is actually a plus player on a ****** Isles team.
Other than that I would love to get Salanne.
Realistically I think the Rangers get a guy like Ruutu if the price isnt too high and maybe a dman.
LUBO V not A fit ,term beyond this year . L hand shot and small. 35 YO . No thanks .Give Stralman more 1 ST unit PP time on L point play Richards on right point or at least be willing to have them switch sides during the PP . Unless Ryan is moved at a reasonable exchange NYR and Ducks not good trading partners
Anybody who has listed Pahlsson as a great trade target or somebody we should go after loses all credibility from this point forward. Defensive 4th line centers who do not produce points are not exactly a hot commodity and the Rangers will NOT waste their time targeting one. I honestly don't even know how this guy's name has come up in any way regarding the Rangers.
Depth PK guy so Callahan doesn't have to block 1000 shots in the playoffs and get worn down (or brake a leg to a Chara blast). Plus having our best forechecking forwards have to get chewed up PK'ng all the time could stall out our forecheck in a deep series.
Dubinsky and AA are going to be the depth centers/face-off guys. It's the playoffs, defensive zone face-offs will all be taken by your top guys. You don't throw a third or 4th line on the ice for a defensive zone face-off in the playoffs. Even if you bring in Pahlsson, I see Torts calling 21, 19, 17 or 42 for these draws. I doubt there will be many face-offs handed out to anyone else. Dubi-Richards-Cally line will be on the ice any chance we get stuck with a d-zone face-off. If they're just off the ice, Figure it'll be either the top unit, or Anisimov/Stepan centering the third unit for the face-off.
I would've loved to see the NYR take a run at Liles, had Toronto not locked him up, but with Eminger, Stralman, Woywitka, and Bickel all filling the 6th and 7th spots, I don't really see a need to add depth.
The target should be helping the PP, and adding to the PK.
Prospal doesn't help much imho, as he's fine on the PP but where do you put him in the line-up? Sure he doesn't dog it on the ice, but he's definitely not a solid two-way guy anymore. I don't think Selanne is the one thing we don't need imho on the PP.
I really don't think the thing our PP is missing is a shooter. Richards, Gabby, Dubi, Wolski, and Cally can all shoot well enough. The unit needs guys at the point that can change the PP angle from one side to the next quickly. The only way to hide them 5v5 is to stick them down on the 4th or 3rd lines, and I don't see them adding any benefit to those lines on the ice. Where a serious 2way hustler will give those lines an added boost.
Anybody who has listed Pahlsson as a great trade target or somebody we should go after loses all credibility from this point forward. Defensive 4th line centers who do not produce points are not exactly a hot commodity and the Rangers will NOT waste their time targeting one. I honestly don't even know how this guy's name has come up in any way regarding the Rangers.
Actually he is exactly what we need. Good on faceoffs, great defensively, can shut down top offensive players. It won't take much to get him and he will be of use. Not to mention he has a cup and we're a team without much playoff experience. Depth and a good faceoff guy are invaluable in the playoffs.
Ted Purcell is one kid from Tampa I have really liked since the beginning of last year. Like Hagelin only bigger. He is a UFA after next year so maybe they would consider a deal. Would shore up our 3rd line RW position and we could move Mitchell to center/LW
Id take Purcell. Not sure why Tampa would trade him instead of trying to retain him.
What would a realistic package be. Based on age and production, it would take at least a first round pick.
Actually he is exactly what we need. Good on faceoffs, great defensively, can shut down top offensive players. It won't take much to get him and he will be of use. Not to mention he has a cup and we're a team without much playoff experience. Depth and a good faceoff guy are invaluable in the playoffs.
I agree about the faceoff thing.
However, players who are good defensively are not something we need unless they have another dimension to their game. We don't seem to have much of a problem shutting down top offensive players.
What do you guys feel about Gordon from Phoenix? Right-Handed shooting center, good on draws, defensively responsible. He is a guy that could be had on the cheap if Phoenix is out of it. Just to add some quality depth down the line up, he could replace Mitchell's game and add that element of having another good penalty killer and a guy that could take important draws, and add another dimension to the team as far as match ups go.
However, players who are good defensively are not something we need unless they have another dimension to their game. We don't seem to have much of a problem shutting down top offensive players.
I'm not comfortable with Boyle against top lines and especially if he gets injured and misses some time. Pahlsson will be of much more use than Mitchell come playoff time.
New here just wanna say whats up before posting my thoughts.
I think that the Rangers need scoring help before they need help on defense. They need a guy who can park himself in front of the net. IMO I think thats the biggest problem with the PP. They got guys who can shoot but noone to put home rebounds.
I absolutely hate them and dont think they would ever trade with the Rangers but if the Rangers could get Moulson from the Isles I think it would help alot. Guy pops in 30 goals and is actually a plus player on a ****** Isles team.
Other than that I would love to get Salanne.
Realistically I think the Rangers get a guy like Ruutu if the price isnt too high and maybe a dman.
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I agree and somewhat disagree. The net presence is a coaching/tactic/X's and O's kind if decision.
Biggest reason the power play is ineffective is we lose the puck instantly because we don't have a guy that can win faceoffs on a consistent basis.
Every big faceoff we lose. Be it offensive zone or defensive zone.
We could use scoring depth, but we very much need a guy that can not only win faceoffs on a consistent basis, but also contribute on the PK and 5v5. And maybe that guy can also be the guy that gets deployed to the front of the net.
If Sauer doesn't make enough progress to the point of possibly returning shortly after the trade deadline, a defenseman might not be a bad idea.
What do you guys feel about Gordon from Phoenix? Right-Handed shooting center, good on draws, defensively responsible. He is a guy that could be had on the cheap if Phoenix is out of it. Just to add some quality depth down the line up, he could replace Mitchell's game and add that element of having another good penalty killer and a guy that could take important draws, and add another dimension to the team as far as match ups go.
I wouldn't mind Gordon or Pahlsson for those exact reasons.
What do you guys feel about Gordon from Phoenix? Right-Handed shooting center, good on draws, defensively responsible. He is a guy that could be had on the cheap if Phoenix is out of it. Just to add some quality depth down the line up, he could replace Mitchell's game and add that element of having another good penalty killer and a guy that could take important draws, and add another dimension to the team as far as match ups go.
I've been asking for Gordon for a while now. And he's the one player other than Ruutu that id like here.
But folks seem to feel he's untouchable for a Coyotes playoff push.
I'm not comfortable with Boyle against top lines and especially if he gets injured and misses some time. Pahlsson will be of much more use than Mitchell come playoff time.
This is simple. If the Rangers are worried about which forwards are on the ice against a given line, they're going to be in trouble. That's not the team's game and they don't use Boyle against top lines (not that I understand why you're uncomfortable with him playing in those situations. He's one of the two or three best defensive forwards the team has, and on the 2nd best defensive team in the league, that's saying something).
And Mitchell provides something for our bottom-6 that Pahlsson never will. Offensive possibility. It's no coincidence that the team really took off when it added an offensive presence to their bottom-6 (Hagelin and Mitchell callup). Mitchell's pace over a full season is for 30 points, which is exactly what our 3rd line needed and still needs. Now, I know that it's a very small sample size. I'm not using it as an example of why we should stick with Mitchell in that role. What I am using it as an example of is what we need to add. A 10-20 point player, which is Pahlsson and Gordon, isn't going to do us much good and doesn't do anything to improve the team's depth.
Prospal had 5 goals in first 11 games. His last 2 goals were on January 5 and 8. Then December 6. Then November 19. 4 goals in his last 38 games.
Ruutu hasn't scored in 13 games.
Hemsky has scored 1 goal since December 2. 4 goals in 36 games. Penner had 21 goals when he was traded from Edmonton.
Selanne doesn't want to leave Anaheim.
PHX wants to make the playoffs. Maloney said Vrbata and Whitney have been his best players. That team is 50/50 for staying in PHX next season. Glendale needs to fork over another $25M to cover the losses if the team stays in PHX and a buyer isn't found to keep the team there. Maloney won't be there if the team is sold and moved. New ownership will clean house and bring in their own people. Maloney has nothing to lose by going for the playoffs.
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If the NHL cannot sell the team to someone willing to keep it in Arizona, the Coyotes will probably be moved this summer, with Quebec City as one of the candidates. However, Glendale council wants to head off a move by paying the NHL another $25-million. But there is a twist to the latest payment.
This time, the $25-million the NHL gets will be called a management fee for running Jobing.com Arena. However, Lieberman said it still amounts to subsidizing the Coyotes’ losses because it is an excessive payment compared to what other managers would charge to operate the arena.
I agree and somewhat disagree. The net presence is a coaching/tactic/X's and O's kind if decision.
Biggest reason the power play is ineffective is we lose the puck instantly because we don't have a guy that can win faceoffs on a consistent basis.
Every big faceoff we lose. Be it offensive zone or defensive zone.
We could use scoring depth, but we very much need a guy that can not only win faceoffs on a consistent basis, but also contribute on the PK and 5v5. And maybe that guy can also be the guy that gets deployed to the front of the net.
If Sauer doesn't make enough progress to the point of possibly returning shortly after the trade deadline, a defenseman might not be a bad idea.
Its definitely a coaching thing but its also lack of a player whos good at it. Even when they set up in the zone on the PP they pass the puck and get good shots but rarely is there ever someone screening the goalie, so he makes the save. They have guys with great shots in Richards, MDZ, and Gabby but noone to clean up. Now granted big bodies that can park in front and put home rebounds dont grow on trees but that would help the PP enormously.
This is simple. If the Rangers are worried about which forwards are on the ice against a given line, they're going to be in trouble. That's not the team's game and they don't use Boyle against top lines (not that I understand why you're uncomfortable with him playing in those situations. He's one of the two or three best defensive forwards the team has, and on the 2nd best defensive team in the league, that's saying something).
And Mitchell provides something for our bottom-6 that Pahlsson never will. Offensive possibility. It's no coincidence that the team really took off when it added an offensive presence to their bottom-6 (Hagelin and Mitchell callup). Mitchell's pace over a full season is for 30 points, which is exactly what our 3rd line needed and still needs. Now, I know that it's a very small sample size. I'm not using it as an example of why we should stick with Mitchell in that role. What I am using it as an example of is what we need to add. A 10-20 point player, which is Pahlsson and Gordon, isn't going to do us much good and doesn't do anything to improve the team's depth.
Come playoff time matchups will be used. Torts will make sure he has his best faceoff guys out there in certain spots. We're not good at faceoffs. Mitchell and Hagelin aren't gonna get much ice time in the playoffs as Torts will shorten the bench. Pahlsson or Gordon will be much more valuable even if it's just for a defensive zone faceoff or on the PK to give guys like Callahan and Dubinsky a breather.
It's not gonna cost much and it gives us great depth in case of injury. Even if they don't get into the lineup, I'd rather have Pahlsson to step in, than EC.
Edit-They won't be more valuable than Hagelin. I'm saying Mitchell will be the odd man out.
