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'11/'12: Leafs Trade Rumors/Proposals: Liles Re-Signed but no trade.

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01-27-2012, 04:06 AM
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Fair say. Personally, I would do either of these trades.

Schenn+Colborne+Grabo+Kuley

Schenn+Lupul+Colborne+1st

Dead serious. I think what we gain would trump what we lose.
I respect how you actually pony something up for a young star.

This is probably what it would take to make the Stars pull the trigger. Think of it, future powerforward, potential to be an 80 point player, isn't afraid to drop the mits, will hit any one in sight. It would take a disgusting overpayment to move that.

The thing is, I think they still want to be competitive. Unless the go on a full fire sale of their older players (Ott, Morrow, Fiddler, Ribeiro, etc) I can't see them moving Benn.

I don't think the Lupul proposal is stupid like everyone else seems to. Benn is a big upgrade over Lupul in terms of overall game, but the pick definitely seems a bit high. Maybe drop Colborne and replace him with a lesser prospect? Blacker?

Also, it isn't realistic in the sense that, If we trade Lupul now, he seems like the better player than Benn, and the fact we are giving up some much ontop of that.

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01-27-2012, 04:07 AM
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Jared Boll from CBJ, great 4th line guy 6'2'' 220 pounds reminds me of a bigger Brown bring alot on energy on the ice and can score on occasions i can see him as a Brown/Armstrong hybrid to be honest it would take 4th-5th round pick to get him or a Rosehill for Boll swap maybe?
dont think the would part with him for rosie

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I respect how you actually pony something up for a young star.

This is probably what it would take to make the Stars pull the trigger. Think of it, future powerforward, potential to be an 80 point player, isn't afraid to drop the mits, will hit any one in sight. It would take a disgusting overpayment to move that.

The thing is, I think they still want to be competitive. Unless the go on a full fire sale of their older players (Ott, Morrow, Fiddler, Ribeiro, etc) I can't see them moving Benn.

I don't think the Lupul proposal is stupid like everyone else seems to. Benn is a big upgrade over Lupul in terms of overall game, but the pick definitely seems a bit high. Maybe drop Colborne and replace him with a lesser prospect? Blacker?
Big time steal for the stars for sure, he is something beautiful but as many said, even then the price for him is very hard to match

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01-27-2012, 04:12 AM
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Big time steal for the stars for sure, he is something beautiful but as many said, even then the price for him is very hard to match
It's defs a bit of an overpayment. But I don't think you'd trade Benn for face value.

Benn easily has the potential to be the best player in the trade.

I personally don't think their is anything wrong with Lupul on the LW though.

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01-27-2012, 04:14 AM
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It's defs a bit of an overpayment. But I don't think you'd trade Benn for face value.

Benn easily has the potential to be the best player in the trade.

I personally don't think their is anything wrong with Lupul on the LW though.
Have to be satisfied with what we have no, yea benn brings a lot more of a complete game but we can't complain with lupul tbh, he is also a catalyst for our true star, in kessel.

Without a doubt Benn would be the best piece, I remember I used to be higher on Neal than him but he has really won me over.

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Have to be satisfied with what we have no, yea benn brings a lot more of a complete game but we can't complain with lupul tbh, he is also a catalyst for our true star, in kessel.

Without a doubt Benn would be the best piece, I remember I used to be higher on Neal than him but he has really won me over.
I want a good ****ing Dman. Like what Beauch shoulda been.

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I want a good ****ing Dman. Like what Beauch shoulda been.
wanna stay up and pray for pietrangelo somehow being traded over here?

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01-27-2012, 04:34 AM
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wanna stay up and pray for pietrangelo somehow being traded over here?
It would definitely be past my bed time.



I know we aren't going to trade for him, but he's so ****ing gooooooooooooooooood

I'd prefer a vet though, someone to play with Phaneuf.

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01-27-2012, 04:38 AM
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It would definitely be past my bed time.



I know we aren't going to trade for him, but he's so ****ing gooooooooooooooooood

I'd prefer a vet though, someone to play with Phaneuf.
Who fits that mold is my question.

There aren't many that's out there that will come cheap and also preferable young.

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01-27-2012, 04:42 AM
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Who fits that mold is my question.

There aren't many that's out there that will come cheap and also preferable young.
True. A good defensive d man-Phaneuf
Gunnar-Schenn
Gardiner-Franson with maybe Komi coming in depending on who we are playing would be a dream.

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01-27-2012, 04:46 AM
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True. A good defensive d man-Phaneuf
Gunnar-Schenn
Gardiner-Franson with maybe Komi coming in depending on who we are playing would be a dream.
You forgot totally about liles dude.

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01-27-2012, 04:49 AM
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You forgot totally about liles dude.
Holy **** howd that happen. When the **** did our d become so ****ing good.

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Holy **** howd that happen. When the **** did our d become so ****ing good.
not to mention some are battling bugs for sure or just having a dunce of a season.

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01-27-2012, 04:55 AM
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not to mention some are battling bugs for sure or just having a dunce of a season.
Omg we have Aulie too LOL.

Hmm this D is actually good

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01-27-2012, 04:56 AM
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Omg we have Aulie too LOL.

Hmm this D is actually good
its good. but we need to get the best of them and bring in more smarter players for their and our own good tbh.

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01-27-2012, 05:08 AM
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its good. but we need to get the best of them and bring in more smarter players for their and our own good tbh.
Ya I'd like a vet. Gleason would be ideal but the price would be ****ing huge. I want a guy like Komisarek, who will stick up for teammates.

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Ya I'd like a vet. Gleason would be ideal but the price would be ****ing huge. I want a guy like Komisarek, who will stick up for teammates.
i wouldn't want to trade with canes, I dunno why but i can tell rutherford would do anything to spike up the prices for a player prolly double that he is worth.

Komisarek seems a bit off after coming back from the injury, I think he is still trying to settle in but damn its not the same as it was in the start of the season.

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01-27-2012, 05:16 AM
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i wouldn't want to trade with canes, I dunno why but i can tell rutherford would do anything to spike up the prices for a player prolly double that he is worth.

Komisarek seems a bit off after coming back from the injury, I think he is still trying to settle in but damn its not the same as it was in the start of the season.
Yea GLeason is definitely going to get a massive overpayment LOL.

That hit on Moen was a beauty though. He's played much better this season in general then I thought he would.

All the things we need, they take massive overpayments

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01-27-2012, 05:18 AM
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Yea GLeason is definitely going to get a massive overpayment LOL.

That hit on Moen was a beauty though. He's played much better this season in general then I thought he would.

All the things we need, they take massive overpayments
I had faith in the game, and in bozie from the getgo and predicted it while people were ranting so I am not surprised.

I am curious on how liles will return tbh, he is coming back from a concussion and we know how crazy this can be.

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I had faith in the game, and in bozie from the getgo and predicted it while people were ranting so I am not surprised.

I am curious on how liles will return tbh, he is coming back from a concussion and we know how crazy this can be.
The liles trade was great. I loved Liles as an Av but never remembered him being this good defensively. He's also gone beast mode offensively, and he saves our PP.

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The liles trade was great. I loved Liles as an Av but never remembered him being this good defensively. He's also gone beast mode offensively, and he saves our PP.
Yea I was skeptical of his defensive play but he has surprised me tbh I was expecting Beauch defense but liles type offense, surprised to say he has done better than I had expected. Also seems to be a leader in the room also.

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Yea I was skeptical of his defensive play but he has surprised me tbh I was expecting Beauch defense but liles type offense, surprised to say he has done better than I had expected. Also seems to be a leader in the room also.
And he loves it here! all for a second too, such a great trade.

I guess it's fair to see why the Avs wanted a first LOL

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i'm sorry but it will be a cold day in hell before last years heart trophy winner is traded for raymond, ballard and schnieder. what a ******* joke.

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The reason I think we need a center way more than a winger is that we need a solid faceoff guy. We spend more time chasing the puck rather than dictating the play. That is why I support the Mikko Koivu idea. Good faceoff guy, captain, distributes the puck, two way 70 pointer. Very underrated by anyone who isn't the Wild. His contract isn't stupid either.

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Lol our D is good.. on paper...

Am I the only one that seems to find Wilson says we are doing the run and gun just so he doesn't have to teach defense? Because there's no way we can have 3 good defensive d men (Schenn, Komisarek, Aulie) and I guess you could add Phaneuf. Along with some defensemen who play solid defense (Franson, Liles, Gunnar) and we still suck defensively.

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