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01-27-2012, 07:32 AM
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Lol our D is good.. on paper...

Am I the only one that seems to find Wilson says we are doing the run and gun just so he doesn't have to teach defense? Because there's no way we can have 3 good defensive d men (Schenn, Komisarek, Aulie) and I guess you could add Phaneuf. Along with some defensemen who play solid defense (Franson, Liles, Gunnar) and we still suck defensively.
Burke is the one that actually wants the run and gun "system" implemented. Not wilson. Burke says its much more entertaining, fast paced and what not.

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Burke is the one that actually wants the run and gun "system" implemented. Not wilson. Burke says its much more entertaining, fast paced and what not.
Uh, says who?

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Uh, says who?
says burke, brah

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says burke, brah
Brah, if you don't think Wilson has any input on his gameplan as the head coach, you're delusional, brah.

Burke has never said he forced his coaches, or Wilson, to have a run and gun style of hockey. Never.

So again, when did he say he forced Wilson to adopt a playing style? What if Wilson doesn't?

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Brah, if you don't think Wilson has any input on his gameplan as the head coach, you're delusional, brah.

Burke has never said he forced his coaches, or Wilson, to have a run and gun style of hockey. Never.

So again, when did he say he forced Wilson to adopt a playing style? What if Wilson doesn't?

Aloha.
brah overkill. You ruined it. Way to go. Go back to bed.

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Burke is the one that actually wants the run and gun "system" implemented. Not wilson. Burke says its much more entertaining, fast paced and what not.
All we need is Gretzky, Kurri, Coffey, Tikkanen, Anderson, Messier, Lowe, Huddy, Gregg, Fuhr, Moog...just a few more pieces for Burkie to get before we'll be successfull with this style.

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brah overkill. You ruined it. Way to go. Go back to bed.

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This sealed/ topped off the brah overkill officially. Come on dave. a pic? lol

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This sealed/ topped off the brah overkill officially. Come on dave. a pic? lol

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Brah, if you don't think Wilson has any input on his gameplan as the head coach, you're delusional, brah.

Burke has never said he forced his coaches, or Wilson, to have a run and gun style of hockey. Never.

So again, when did he say he forced Wilson to adopt a playing style? What if Wilson doesn't?

Aloha.
Burke has stated in the past that his teams won't be trap style.

For the most part the GM's bring in the coaches they feel implement their philosophy of playing the game. The GM usually likes what the coach brings to the table/ice. At least, that's how I understand it.

At the end of the day Burke is the guy acquiring players who he likes, so there has to be a system that he likes too or else those players are unlikely to fit.

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Uh, says who?
I have to agree with Dark side on this one as well. I have heard a couple of Burke interviews where he states he doesn't want the trap but to play a more uptempo style of hockey.

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yeah and it sounds off to me, I dont think schneider, and raymond and ballard could get you Perry. Maybe add Hodgson and your getting pretty warm. but I dont see this deal going down without hodgson a part of it.
Vancouver fans are dreaming if they think that would get them Perry!!!

The deal would START with Kesler + Schneider + 1st For Perry

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Fair say. Personally, I would do either of these trades.

Schenn+Colborne+Grabo+Kuley

Schenn+Lupul+Colborne+1st

Dead serious. I think what we gain would trump what we lose.
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yea that trade is so insane(Perry-Van)...i just can`t even think on how the hell it works hahah
Schneider, Raymond and Hamhuis
Schenn, Lupul, Colborne, 1st.

Which one is for Perry and which one is for Benn?

I must have entered Bizzarro World.

Seriously guys quit bidding against yourself in these deals/offers/proposals.

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Burke has stated in the past that his teams won't be trap style.

For the most part the GM's bring in the coaches they feel implement their philosophy of playing the game. The GM usually likes what the coach brings to the table/ice. At least, that's how I understand it.

At the end of the day Burke is the guy acquiring players who he likes, so there has to be a system that he likes too or else those players are unlikely to fit.
Correct.

The Leafs play an up-tempo puck pressure system.

We have 3 shutouts in the last two weeks.

After the last shutout, there were complaints on here that the game was 'boring.'

But we should play the trap.

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I know Burke said those things but that doesn't change the fact that Wilson also wants to play that style.

If he didn't, he wouldn't be here.

So as much as Burke doesn't want a trapping team, neither does Wilson.

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01-27-2012, 08:31 AM
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Burke is the one that actually wants the run and gun "system" implemented. Not wilson. Burke says its much more entertaining, fast paced and what not.
What a great system.. 9th place

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Bob McKenzie on the radio this morning on The Team 1260 was talking about the Jeff Carter situation. Feels the issue right now is finding a fit with other teams in a cap world. Talked about LA being a destination, and touched on Toronto - but stating Burke's take on those terms deals may turn him off.

However in this YouTube clip, he certainly seems like he was interested in Carter during the summer:

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Whether or not that has changed, possibly. But in terms of the rumoured names, he's probably the one that will take the least amount to acquire given the heat Columbus is taking now.

Term is the main issue. He has a NTC in 2012-13, and 13-14 but has a limited NTC for the remainder of his contract.

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I know Burke said those things but that doesn't change the fact that Wilson also wants to play that style.

If he didn't, he wouldn't be here.

So as much as Burke doesn't want a trapping team, neither does Wilson.
Trap is just fine if you are good enough to win with it.

Play run and gun if you are going to be a loser because then you get something to be excited about.

Nothing worse than a boring team that loses.

But since this is the trade thread, Leafs should be looking at teams going for it who have youngsters knocking on the door, or teams looking for depth on d.

See if Grabovki can be rented out for a couple months.

I don't see how a team is going to give up core pieces for Leafs depth, unless they are in a Jeff Carter situation where the player does not want to be there and everyone knows.

Bozak, Kadri and a 2nd.

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Correct.

The Leafs play an up-tempo puck pressure system.

We have 3 shutouts in the last two weeks.

After the last shutout, there were complaints on here that the game was 'boring.'

But we should play the trap.
You must remember the past two games were between the Islanders and Leafs, not exactly teams in the upper tier of the league.

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Ex NHLer Patrice Brisebois reported that a trade is in the works that would send C.Perry to #Canucks for Raymond, Schneider, Ballard. #Ducks

Rumors are flying on twitter about this. I can't find the original tweeter about it. He apparently said it on a radio show called "Le Match".

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Bob McKenzie on the radio this morning on The Team 1260 was talking about the Jeff Carter situation. Feels the issue right now is finding a fit with other teams in a cap world. Talked about LA being a destination, and touched on Toronto - but stating Burke's take on those terms deals may turn him off.

However in this YouTube clip, he certainly seems like he was interested in Carter during the summer:

(Starts around the 1:35 mark):



Whether or not that has changed, possibly. But in terms of the rumoured names, he's probably the one that will take the least amount to acquire given the heat Columbus is taking now.

Term is the main issue. He has a NTC in 2012-13, and 13-14 but has a limited NTC for the remainder of his contract.
Because of that NTC if the jackets want to trade him now is the time... Will they get back what they paid? Doubt it... But u never know

i also doubt they would want picks.. Unless salary dumping is the issue...

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Ex NHLer Patrice Brisebois reported that a trade is in the works that would send C.Perry to #Canucks for Raymond, Schneider, Ballard. #Ducks

Rumors are flying on twitter about this. I can't find the original tweeter about it. He apparently said it on a radio show called "Le Match".
ZERO chance that happens! Perry would fetch waaaaay more!

My guess Kesler + + might get it done

How could a 2/3rd line winger a backup goalie and a brutal Dman get u Perry... LOL, what a maroon

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Ex NHLer Patrice Brisebois reported that a trade is in the works that would send C.Perry to #Canucks for Raymond, Schneider, Ballard. #Ducks

Rumors are flying on twitter about this. I can't find the original tweeter about it. He apparently said it on a radio show called "Le Match".
In what world is that fair value? Anaheim has lost their mind if they complete that deal as it is.

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In what world is that fair value? Anaheim has lost their mind
I agree, which is why I think it was either taken out of context (sarcasm, an example, etc) or just plain fabricated.

Anaheim all ready has a number 1 goaltender, I have no idea why they would want Schneider as the main assets back in the deal.

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