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02-03-2012, 12:22 PM
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I hate Chara being in this "best fighter" discussion when all he has is his reach and strength. I mean, I guess you have to take it into account but I really feel he should be in his own category for being such an alien in size and having such a lack of fighting skill in general.
Well then, I'll have to make sure to apply this in all sports...



having strength = removes you from competition

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02-04-2012, 03:09 PM
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I wouldn't put chara anywhere near the top. He falls down 75% of the time.

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Souray is a tough SOB.

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My list of the 6 toughest d-man

Carkner - Legit Heavyweight who can throw with both hands who has fought the best and beat the best, he has a good fight card since coming up with the Sens and also fought top heavies in the minors. He has knock out power with both hands and is also a pretty good bottom pairing d-man

Scott - He is huge but he is not as good of a player as Carkner and although he hasn't lost yet in the NHL he also hasn't scrapped the same calibre of fighters as Carkner has or fought as often. His fight card also wasn't as good as Carkner's was in the minors

Chara - He would probably be number one if he fought more and didn't have balance issues but it seems like he rarely has a fight these days where he doesn't loose his balance early on. Im sure if he fought more he would fix that problem and dominate people but he is way too valuable to be fighting. Great player who has earned the right to choose when and who he wants to fight without being labeled as a "spot-picker"

Erskine - He doesn't fight as much as he used to but earlier in his career he was strictly a goon who has taken on some of the top enforcers. He has a vicious right and can still throw bombs. He went from being a goon who rarely played and would fight a lot before his time in Washington to a solid bottom pairing d-man who plays a lot but rarely fights anymore

Engelland - The smallest guy on the list at 6'2 202lbs but he is a very smart fighter who has knock out power when he throws those right haymakers. He reminds me a bit of Darren Langdon being an undersized guy who can take on heavyweights. Engelland took on some top heavyweights in the minors and had a very impressive rookie season last year where he beat some top guys when he dropped Orr and picked Shelley apart

McQuaid - he has been tearing up the middleweight division since he came up with the Bruins. His fight card doesn't have many top end guys yet but I doubt he would have any difficulty handling himself against any one on this list. He throws vicious right haymakers that can do a lot of damage. He will be higher up on this list in a few seasons once he scraps a few more heavyweights. Good 5-6 d-man to
Thumbs up to this guy's post. Thorough and accurate.

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02-15-2012, 07:18 PM
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McQuaid's name in this thread is even more ridiculous now that he can't get a win in his last 3 fights against Konopka (middleweight), Hendricks and White (2 cruiserweights)


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02-15-2012, 09:12 PM
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Carkner, or beauchemin is good too.

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02-15-2012, 09:31 PM
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McQuaid's name in this thread is even more ridiculous now that he can't get a win in his last 3 fights against Konopka (middleweight), Hendricks and White (2 cruiserweights)
i knew you'd post in here after that one.

konopka and hendricks he has an excuse for, hendricks literally went in looking to hug him and get the take down, konopka was keeping him in tight as well not really looking to really throw. any guy in the NHL can do that to any fighter and score a draw.

he has no excuse for white though, it was a poor showing by him, white isn't much of a fighter at all. he's young and will get better, but drawing with white is brutal

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02-15-2012, 09:44 PM
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I'd say Carkner is the best fighter because that's exactly what he is, a fighter. Chara might be the toughest but he is too busy playing Norris caliber defense (although not of late) to be considered a fighter.

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02-15-2012, 09:44 PM
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i knew you'd post in here after that one.

konopka and hendricks he has an excuse for, hendricks literally went in looking to hug him and get the take down, konopka was keeping him in tight as well not really looking to really throw. any guy in the NHL can do that to any fighter and score a draw.

he has no excuse for white though, it was a poor showing by him, white isn't much of a fighter at all. he's young and will get better, but drawing with white is brutal
White is a very good fighter for a middleweight. McQuaid should be ashamed as the tale of the tape shows this to be a mismatch. White pound for pound is an extremely tough guy and a good fighter. He hammered Boychuk last season though that isn't much to brag about.

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02-15-2012, 09:57 PM
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It's not like if White destroyed him neither...

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02-15-2012, 10:11 PM
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McQuaid's name in this thread is even more ridiculous now that he can't get a win in his last 3 fights against Konopka (middleweight), Hendricks and White (2 cruiserweights)
ridiculous, he won the fight against White, and it would have been ugly for White if the linesmen hadn't stepped in so early

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ridiculous, he won the fight against White, and it would have been ugly for White if the linesmen hadn't stepped in so early
You call that a win???

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White is a very good fighter for a middleweight. McQuaid should be ashamed as the tale of the tape shows this to be a mismatch. White pound for pound is an extremely tough guy and a good fighter. He hammered Boychuk last season though that isn't much to brag about.
haha...a good middleweight?

you do know we are talking about ryan white, right? guy hasn't shown anything in the NHL yet.

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I'm trying to decide if the uppercut at 1:30/2:58 lands or not.

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It's not like if White destroyed him neither...
White was flailing around


whats funnier is people will look for any little thing to discredit the Bruins

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02-16-2012, 03:38 AM
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White couldn't hang onto anything after McQuaid's jersey came off, he still did really well though. White has shown he will take on most comers. Great guy.

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02-16-2012, 07:37 AM
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The McQuaid/White fight was a bit odd because of all the clutching and shifting of gear. It is almost as if it was not supposed to be a fight that turned into one and so the whole dance was messed up from the start. Shirts coming off, helmets in the way, just a mess. Not much was landed, and of that, AM got the better of them, but we are talking one or two real punches landed. I think if that kept going it would have been ugly for White, and it seemed clear to me at the end that he had no intentions of trading with AM so he used the behind the head-lock and the linesmen stepped in.

Just a bad fight overall though, tough to gauge really anything from it. I wished they would have gone again but the game wouldn't really allow it.

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I'm just sick and tired of the homers...

This fight is a draw, and only 18 % vote this one a draw on hockeyfights.com. That's ridiculous

And for me White is not a ''top'' middleweight yet. For the moment I put him in the same class as Zac Rinaldo, Dan Carcillo, , Cody McLeod, Dale Weise, Matt Bradley, Zack Smith... Anyway, White is awesome for the Habs right now. Maybe with time he will be as good as Prust or Asham but not for the moment.

Just like McQuaid who only fights guys like Hendricks or Torres for the moment


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Bruins fan. I like White. He is aggressive

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Clear win for McQuaid

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Engelland is one of the toughest fighters in the NHL

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Carkner or McQuaid.

That'd be a good bout.

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White is a very good fighter for a middleweight. McQuaid should be ashamed as the tale of the tape shows this to be a mismatch. White pound for pound is an extremely tough guy and a good fighter. He hammered Boychuk last season though that isn't much to brag about.
white did everything within his power to hold on and not get killed last night.. he started out ok but he was in over his head.

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Gleason is a good scrapper, should definetly be on this list.

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Gleason is a good scrapper, should definetly be on this list.
People discredit him a lot, but he beat Lucic pretty bad at one point.

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