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02-02-2012, 11:54 PM
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I don't think there's anything phony with the GSP/Diaz beef. You can tell by GSPs body language that thinking about Diaz gets him angry (perhaps too much).

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Diaz missed 3 flights before finally arriving in Vegas .
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I don't believe that. Diaz has good BJJ and wrestling as well. Plus his cardio really is a game changer. If you can go an entire fight and not get tired maintaining whatever pace you set, that's a huge advantage. I think Diaz can stuff some takedowns and land on GSP. If it happens, it'll probably be one the most exciting fights for me personally.
That is a huge advantage, no question about it. And Diaz does have great cardio. But GSP does as well. And I think GSP's cardio will seem better because Diaz will be carrying his weight for a lot of the fight. GSP is probably the best takedown guy in the business, and Diaz isn't great at stopping them. No question it'll be real interesting if Diaz can keep it standing, but that's a big if IMO.


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02-03-2012, 03:24 AM
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I don't think there's a chance in hell of Diaz stuffing GSP's takedowns.

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I don't think there's a chance in hell of Diaz stuffing GSP's takedowns.
I think Diaz could scramble to his feet and do damage with his offense. Think Bisping-Sonnen, but if Bisping had more offensive firepower and great stamina. GSP winning is still the most likely outcome though.

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02-03-2012, 12:45 PM
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GSP will have a long time between fights so he may be rusty.

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if this guy is 1/2 as good as Rafael Nadal he is gonna win


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02-03-2012, 03:19 PM
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Just a note for everyone, Jorge Lopez is no longer fighting Matt Riddle, Henry Martinez is now.

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I don't think there's a chance in hell of Diaz stuffing GSP's takedowns.
I agree with that, but do you think GSP can lie on top of Diaz for 25 minutes without getting sub'd? I don't think theres a chance in hell that GSP can finish Diaz, and it'll be a real challenge to LnP him for 5 whole rounds without getting caught by something

Also I'm glad that Nick finally stopped calling Carlos 'Conduit'

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I agree with that, but do you think GSP can lie on top of Diaz for 25 minutes without getting sub'd? I don't think theres a chance in hell that GSP can finish Diaz, and it'll be a real challenge to LnP him for 5 whole rounds without getting caught by something

Also I'm glad that Nick finally stopped calling Carlos 'Conduit'
GSP's beat guys with just as good bjj as Diaz has. Penn, Miller and Serra come to mind. Shields too but they stood up for the whole fight.

GSP also doesn't LnP. It's called GnP and don't even try to say that he's not active when he has guys down.

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I think Diaz could scramble to his feet and do damage with his offense. Think Bisping-Sonnen, but if Bisping had more offensive firepower and great stamina. GSP winning is still the most likely outcome though.
Diaz has nowhere near the wrestling and takedown defense that Bisping possesses.
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I agree with that, but do you think GSP can lie on top of Diaz for 25 minutes without getting sub'd? I don't think theres a chance in hell that GSP can finish Diaz, and it'll be a real challenge to LnP him for 5 whole rounds without getting caught by something

Also I'm glad that Nick finally stopped calling Carlos 'Conduit'
GSP has good jiujitsu of his own, and as DaaaaB's said, he has been in there with some very good submission artists and did just fine. I think there's a better chance of GSP subbing Diaz.

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Don't forget the main event is Diaz vs Condit, not Diaz vs GSP.

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GSP has good jiujitsu of his own, and as DaaaaB's said, he has been in there with some very good submission artists and did just fine. I think there's a better chance of GSP subbing Diaz.
GSP couldn't sub Dan Hardy, I don't like his chances at subbing Diaz.

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GSP couldn't sub Dan Hardy, I don't like his chances at subbing Diaz.
To be fair, he did everything short of snapping Hardy's arm in order to finish him.

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To be fair, he did everything short of snapping Hardy's arm in order to finish him.
He had slight tech problems, but Hardy wasn't going to tap anyway, imho.

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GSP's beat guys with just as good bjj as Diaz has. Penn, Miller and Serra come to mind. Shields too but they stood up for the whole fight.

GSP also doesn't LnP. It's called GnP and don't even try to say that he's not active when he has guys down.
The difference I see is that Nick is close to the same size as GSP (unlike BJ and Serra) and is in as good of shape as him (unlike miller). I'm not saying he'd win for sure, I just don't think that it would be the GSP cakewalk that some of my friends think it would be.

I don't dislike GSP, he seems like an awesome guy, he just has been incredibly underwhelming lately for me. I'd love to see him go back to his old ways of just blasting opponents, but I haven't seen a trace of that since the Fitch fight

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Half the stuff Koscheck did was so lame that GSP just basically laughed along. I don't think there was ever any hatred there. Diaz (with the help of Cesar Gracie) has not only continually disrespected GSP by questioning his integrity, but has also gone about pretty much everything in as classless a way possible since coming back into the UFC.
Georges doesnt like getting punched in the face much. In fact he really doesnt like it. And Diaz is going to punch him in the face a lot. So much so in fact, that Georges stands a pretty good chance of losing.

This will be his toughest fight since the Hughes Trilogy. Maybe even more so. And he is coming of an injury and will be rusty as hell. Meanwhile Diaz has been fighting top competition as Georges sits inactive.

Its a very dangerous fight for GSP.

Probably why he faked his injury.

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I'm so tired of this guy shirking his responsibilities.
Maybe he has a fear of flying?

Who knows? There could be anxiety issues or any number of things like that.

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