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Nets GM makes pitch for NYI to play at Barclays Center
A Stanley Cup winner hasn't relocated in the NHL since the Montreal Maroons won in 1935. Every team that has won since has not relocated, nor changed their team name. Pretty impressive if you think about it.
Baseball goes back to 1957 with the Milwaukee Braves
NBA goes back to 1979 with the Seattle SuperSonics
NFL goes back to 1984 with the Los Angeles Raiders
To lose the Islanders would be definitely interesting in some ways, since they are a modern day champion. However, it's pretty neat to see that if you win, even once, you're pretty much good to go in major sports.
IU they did it to save money. They had a press confrence to announce it. I remeber, it was about 3 to 5 years ago.
Seems like they got rid of a lot of other stuff as part of the savings, though. The article talks very little (1 sentence) about the change going from a hockey/basketball stadium to a basketball specific stadium. I'm sure if they wanted to build a stadium with the money they had to use to accomodate hockey, they could've.
Everything I read 2 years ago talked about how they wanted to build the perfect basketball stadium with optimal viewing for only that.
Seems like they got rid of a lot of other stuff as part of the savings, though. The article talks very little (1 sentence) about the change going from a hockey/basketball stadium to a basketball specific stadium. I'm sure if they wanted to build a stadium with the money they had to use to accomodate hockey, they could've.
Everything I read 2 years ago talked about how they wanted to build the perfect basketball stadium with optimal viewing for only that.
I think the economic downtown had something to do with personally, because I know it was just ratner and Jay Z before, and the collapse happend, so then came The Russian.
Any seating plans available to see how it would fit with an NHL-sized rink there? would it look like Phoenix's old arena, or what?
I always understood it to be an NBA specific arena - but perhaps it can accommodate hockey as well.
This render makes me feel hockey will be a tight fit, but it may be doable:
14,500 for hockey may not be a bad thing. Limited supply, higher prices for demand, although this could almost be treated as a "relocation" based on the distance Brooklyn is away from Uniondale.
The Air Canada Centre initially was designed as "basketball-only" but the Leafs bought the Raptors and formed MLSE a little while after the ACC had begun construction. That's why at the end zones there are obstructed view seats in the upper deck for hockey games. They did have to redesign the arena bowl to accommodate hockey, but at first, the ACC was going to be strictly basketball only.
Honestly, it has a minor-league look and feel. That would be a nice look for Boise, Idaho, not necessarily Brooklyn.
Not a guy huge for rumors but in the past i've heard rumblings of maybe an ECHL/AHL team playing at the Barclays. Would be interesting. Doubt NYC people would support a minor league sport though.
Seems like they got rid of a lot of other stuff as part of the savings, though. The article talks very little (1 sentence) about the change going from a hockey/basketball stadium to a basketball specific stadium. I'm sure if they wanted to build a stadium with the money they had to use to accomodate hockey, they could've.
Everything I read 2 years ago talked about how they wanted to build the perfect basketball stadium with optimal viewing for only that.
But KDB's post pretty much shows their thinking on this matter. They were initially planning on building a physically larger facility that could host both NHL and NBA configurations, but in the end they specifically went with a smaller facility that would only be suitable for having an NBA configuration (along with other cutbacks). So, by building the perfect basketball specific stadium, they built a cheaper and smaller arena that wouldn't be up to par with hosting an NHL team.
It saved them $200 million on the front-end and was good for them when the construction was getting approved and started, but it's coming back to bite them already as it cuts back on a guaranteed long-term venue client that'd likely be able to sell out and recoup the initial higher expense.
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A Stanley Cup winner hasn't relocated in the NHL since the Montreal Maroons won in 1935. Every team that has won since has not relocated, nor changed their team name. Pretty impressive if you think about it.
Actually the Maroons never relocated, they folded. It was the Ottawa Senators that relocated, very briefly to St. Louis...
The Islanders deserve a real deal stadium like in the Queens proposal.
Queens pols have been throwing out public lures to Wang,which he's ignored.One of their more interesting suggestions, was putting a retractable roof on the National Tennis Center.I have to think that'd be cheaper and quicker then building a new arena.
the problem bettman mentioned during his radio hour a couple of months ago is would long time islander fans and season ticket owners who hypothetically get off work at 5 make the trek to queens for a 7 pm start time? Unless the islanders could get some new fans by being closer to the city the location of the barclays center is not conducive to some islander fans.
the problem bettman mentioned during his radio hour a couple of months ago is would long time islander fans and season ticket owners who hypothetically get off work at 5 make the trek to queens for a 7 pm start time? Unless the islanders could get some new fans by being closer to the city the location of the barclays center is not conducive to some islander fans.
Is Bettman friggin kidding?
Barclays Center is near public transportation,allowing easier access for fans to get to the arena.
The nyi diehards,would prefer the inconvience of the team playing in Brooklyn as opposed to the inconvience of trying to get to games in Kansas City or Quebec
Barclays Center is near public transportation,allowing easier access for fans to get to the arena.
The nyi diehards,would prefer the inconvience of the team playing in Brooklyn as opposed to the inconvience of trying to get to games in Kansas City or Quebec
does lirr from jamaica go to the atlantic yards stop? or would fans from out east have to go all the way into penn
does lirr from jamaica go to the atlantic yards stop? or would fans from out east have to go all the way into penn
Yes. All trains with the excpetion of the Port Washington branch stop at Jamaica. The worst thing someone would need to do is transfer at Jamaica to get to Atlantic Yards and that's no big deal.
Re-name the team like the Nets are doing and maybe the Brooklyn residents will want to show.
Isles are not renaming the team.They'll hang their SC banners and the jersey numbers they've retired.
I don't follow the NBA,but have the Nets ever won a championship?
Isles and nyi fans are pretty proud of our cups and the guys who won them for us.
If they want fans to come out,then they need to do more then spend barely to the cap floor.
All that being said, it would make sense for Wang to use the threat of moving to Barclays as incentive to try to get local support in finally building a new arena out in the Uniondale area.
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I think the reason Wang won't commit to Brooklyn is because he doesn't want to be a tenant in someone else's building.I think he'd stand to make much more money if he were the main tenant or thee landlord.
Imo he'll wait until the 11th hour like the Pens did a few yrs ago.I would not be surprised if he had the isles play a preseason game next fall at Barclays,hoping to put a little pressure on Nassau County pols.
Hmmm, given the October 2 date, that sounds like a late preseason game. Smart of them to host a local rival in the Devils to make sure the place is packed and loud too
Clearly a dry run to see if it can work - I can see the Isles organization springing for some renos to boost capacity to 15-16k if they think they can make a go of it.
I don't follow the NBA,but have the Nets ever won a championship?
Yes and no. The ABA New York Nets won two championships playing at the NVMC, but the post merger NBA incarnation, no.
But the Nets do honor their ABA history - their ABA championship banners and Dr J's & Bill Melchionni' s retired numbers (even though they never played for the NBA Nets) still hang in the rafters.
Nassau is broke. Threatening them is like trying to hold-up a homeless dude.
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That's why the County Exec. keeps pushing for a casino/arena deal.They want the developers interested in buildinga local casino,to also build a new arena next to the casino.
it wouldn't have made sense for the Nets not to change their name, the New Jersey Nets playing in NYC? New York Islanders would still work.
Not to be nitpicky because i've indulged in this conversation too many times in my life growing up in the state of NY but the giants and jets play in jersey yet still get called NY when they haven't played there for decades and won't be for the foreseeable future.
