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10-18-2004, 11:52 PM
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Game three impressions

A much better game tonight but not as many fans. 6,011 which is about average for an AHL game I understand. Monday night was never a good night for Oiler attendance either.

The Road Runners still have not scored on the PP but it was much better tonight. They had a few goalposts and did everything but score on the last two powerplays.

Player impressions.

Rocky played fine, nothing fancy but did his job.

Woywitka played better tonight, he was much more steady tonight and made a couple of sterling defensive plays.

Smith, steady again.

Lynch - Made a couple of glaring errors but also took a stick to the head, so I will go easy on him. He did come back to complete the game.

Salmelainen - Scored a goal, could have had three or four. He creates a lot of chances with his blazing speed.

Cullen - nothing spectacular this evening, nothing bad. Average.

Winchester - Wow, what a game. He was physical, he was good defensively, he scored two goals and could have had four. A physical presence with a nose for the net and a good shot. Man I like him, and the Oilers need a power forward. Winchester was not shooting blanks this evening.

Dicasmirro - Always physical, another steady game.

Stoll - played well again, keeps on taking howitzers and when he starts hitting the net the goals will start coming.

Peterson - has good speed and passes well.

Mrozik - Made a horrendous giveaway that cost the team a goal.

Wright - Much better this evening, he wasn't floating at all. Played physical, excellent playmaking. Looked like a completely different player tonight.

Hunter - he had a few good chances.

Radunske - Not really that noticeable this evening.

Ferguson - He was better tonight, drew a penalty by going up the wall and keeping his feet moving.

Roy - He played well, created some chances by making some really good passes out of his zone and was steady defensively.

McAslan - always physical, had a couple of good hits.

Bishai - Played very well tonight and was a bull out there along the boards. Nasty to play against this evening.

Moss - Made two or three just incredible saves, really no chance on any of the goals.

EDIT - will not be attending Wednesday's game, hopefully someone else can give their impressions.


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How was Moss playing the puck? The game I saw he was brutal but everyone has bad games...LMHF#1 and I will be at the wednesday game...So we could possibly give a report. Good job and thanks for the report spaz.

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Great to hear that about Winchester. Weren't we all saying a few years back that he could be the difference in the Brewer-Hamrlik trade? If he keeps on playing like that, the deal just looks better and better for us.

As for Salmelainen...I really think he could pot some goals for us in the NHL if his hands catch up to his feet. All in all I think this year's Roadrunner team could play a huge part in the Oiler's future.

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Too bad Hemsky decided to play for Pardubice, I really would have liked to see what kind of number he would put up in the AHL.

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but it could be argued that the czech league is better than the AHL this year, because of all the NHL talent playing over there.... and he *is* leading his team in scoring and in the top 15 for league scoring as well, so hes doing just fine

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but it could be argued that the czech league is better than the AHL this year, because of all the NHL talent playing over there.... and he *is* leading his team in scoring and in the top 15 for league scoring as well, so hes doing just fine

You´re right, but the thing he has to learn is to play on the smaller ice rink and in heavy traffic, so the Czech league is the wrong league right now.
He should try to compete against more checking, cause that´s what he needs when he returns to NA.

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no question that hemsky needs to learn to play in traffic much better if he wants to succeed in the NHL.... all i was saying is that the czech league is very strong this year and at least hes playing against "almost" NHL calibre teams, and hes doing fairly good against them.... i think it might be a bit of a shock for some people once NHL starts again, because some of our players will have 1-2 seasons of additional pro experience(depending when the CBA gets worked out).... players like stoll, hemsky, woywitka, horcoff and semenov should all be noticably more mature..... i just wish players like MAB, torres, brewer and pisani would sign with a european team, because 1-2 years away from pro hockey is really gonna hurt these young players

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200 NHLers scattered around the European league does not make the teams in the Czech elite league almost NHL calibre.

There are 200 nhlers scattered amongst 100 european division teams. How does this, even slightly, raise the calibre of the Czech elite league at all?

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go look at the leading scorers in the czech league.... there are some pretty dam good players there..... i would think that the czech league (and of COURSE this is only my opinion) is just as good as the AHL is this year.... its not like hes playing in the german league (like york) or czech league II (like dvorak).... would it be better if he was playing in the AHL? of course.... but since that isnt an option, i think this is pretty good "plan B"

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I didn't say there weren't any good players... I said there were so few NHL players in the Czech Elite league that it didn't drastically increase the level of play to past the AHL and close to NHL calibre.

And yes, the AHL was an option for Hemsky.

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i thought that hemsky would have had to clear waivers or something like that to play in the AHL?

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Nope. Hemsky could have played in the AHL this season, but he decided to play in the Czec Republic instead.

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are you guys sure? cause that would be a monumentally stupid decision on his part

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How was Moss playing the puck? The game I saw he was brutal but everyone has bad games...LMHF#1 and I will be at the wednesday game...So we could possibly give a report. Good job and thanks for the report spaz.
I saw no problems in this game.

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There are 200 nhlers scattered amongst 100 european division teams. How does this, even slightly, raise the calibre of the Czech elite league at all?
Think about it....

Say, by your numbers, that each team gets two NHL players, who should arguably be among the top players in the league and drops their worst two players....

By comparison, imagine the Oilers acquired Jarome Iginla and Burnaby Joe and lost Scott Ferguson and Jani Rita...

Would this not make the Oilers a MONUMENTALLY better team????

Each team picking up a couple ringers and dropping their two worst players will have a profound effect on the calibre of hockey being played there....

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10-19-2004, 03:59 PM
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Also remember what is the goaltending like over there? That might have a big difference.

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The biggest difference will be the bigger ice rink.

There´s no doubt that Hemsky has more room to move, that dman in the Czech league aren´t going to hit him that hard.
They are relying on positioning and that´s the difference.
The shooting is different and the whole style and even 3 NHLers in those teams don´t make it that "great" for Hemsky.
It´s more like shying away from the stuff he has to handle later on a daily base.

Others like York, Dvorak etc are more proven and have shown, that they can handle this.
Hemsky has shown that he has talent (and he´s showing this in the Czech league again), but he has had problems with intesity, bigger traffic etc and those points will not be main points he can learn from in the Czech league.

Goaltending isn´t a big difference - you can see that each year when solid goalies get in the NHL (Markkanen, Cechmanek, Hnilicka, etc - for some part others like Malek, Bjurling, etc).

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Think about it....

Say, by your numbers, that each team gets two NHL players, who should arguably be among the top players in the league and drops their worst two players....

By comparison, imagine the Oilers acquired Jarome Iginla and Burnaby Joe and lost Scott Ferguson and Jani Rita...

Would this not make the Oilers a MONUMENTALLY better team????

Each team picking up a couple ringers and dropping their two worst players will have a profound effect on the calibre of hockey being played there....
So those extra 2 NHLers per team, are going to make the Euro leagues NHL calibre?

Think about that one (which was what I was arguing. Sure, it'll be a little better, that's just common sense. Does it bump them ahead of the AHL?

And we aren't talking about adding Iginla and Sakic to every team... for the most part, we are talking about adding 2nd and 3rd liners to these teams.

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Also remember that the European leagues are getting some NHL players, the AHL are getting some NHL players as well.

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There are 200 nhlers scattered amongst 100 european division teams. How does this, even slightly, raise the calibre of the Czech elite league at all?
Show me where I said that this would bring the Czech league up to NHL calibre.....

You said it wouldn't improve the league, even slightly, and I commented on it....

However, having these additional NHL players will undoubtedly bring the calibre of hockey in the Czech league up substantially....

And while most of these guys obviously aren't of the same calibre of Sakic or Iginla, they will nevertheless be point a game producers in the Czech league, which is about the impact Sakic and Iginla have on the NHL...

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So those extra 2 NHLers per team, are going to make the Euro leagues NHL calibre?

Think about that one (which was what I was arguing.
It's pretty clear that isn't what you were arguing.....

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Sure, it'll be a little better, that's just common sense. Does it bump them ahead of the AHL?
I know it's common sense, that's why I pointed it out.

With the addition of the likes of Nedved, Havlat, Palffy, Stumpel, Hejduk, Hemsky,etc, the Czech League will be more than a "little better."

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Stoll doesn't play enough / in the right circumstances when I catch the Oil on the tube. Spazz 44 mentions he has a hard shot. What do you who have had an opportunity to see more of him think his offensive potential is??
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Show me where I said that this would bring the Czech league up to NHL calibre.....
I never said you said that, but Jadeddog did.

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You said it wouldn't improve the league, even slightly, and I commented on it....
Actually, I asked how would it... and I didn't mean from an overall quality of league play, but from a developmental point for a guy like Hemsky (which I now know I wasn't clear on).


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actually i said "almost NHL calibre"... but in hindsight even that was prolly a bit of a stretch.... my whole point was that the czech league is better this year than in the past, so at least hes not just sitting out for an entire year.... hopefully hes eating about 5000 calories everyday as well that and hitting the gym hard... but somehow i doubt this

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