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02-15-2012, 11:19 AM
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And Sanford only has 3 more wins more than Mason this year in the same amount of games!
Relief and ties impact that stat, 10-13-4 vs 7-20-2 are their W/L/T records...

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02-15-2012, 05:03 PM
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Relief and ties impact that stat, 10-13-4 vs 7-20-2 are their W/L/T records...
If you credit points to the goalie as a measure of value then Sanford earned .828 per game played and Mason earned .533 per game played. "Just three more wins" is misleading.

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If you credit points to the goalie as a measure of value then Sanford earned .828 per game played and Mason earned .533 per game played. "Just three more wins" is misleading.
Agreed..

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02-16-2012, 05:36 AM
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Sorry to butt in, but it seems that Mason won`t be able to rescue his career on your team. The best solution would be trading him to a team with a workhorse number one goalie (like Lundqvist or Rinne) with a good goalie coach and let him work on his game without pressure. Just my 2 cents.
Nobody is going to pay 3.2 million dollars on Mason if they have a workhorse like Rinne or Lundqvist.

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02-16-2012, 06:47 AM
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Just read in the paper that over last 3 games, Mase is 2-1, 2.33 GAA with a .931 save percentage. And that includes the 5 goal debacle in Anaheim. So for argument sake, what if he continues to play like that?

As of right now I think you say "Hey one win was against Minnesota and the other was against the Blues who are not exactly an offensive dynamo. Plus there was a 5 goal game. Same old Mase."

But, and it is a big but, he does perform like that for the remainder of the season, then what?

I think then you trade him and hope like heck that it was an abberation for the last umpteen games.

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02-16-2012, 08:00 AM
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Just read in the paper that over last 3 games, Mase is 2-1, 2.33 GAA with a .931 save percentage. And that includes the 5 goal debacle in Anaheim. So for argument sake, what if he continues to play like that?

As of right now I think you say "Hey one win was against Minnesota and the other was against the Blues who are not exactly an offensive dynamo. Plus there was a 5 goal game. Same old Mase."

But, and it is a big but, he does perform like that for the remainder of the season, then what?

I think then you trade him and hope like heck that it was an abberation for the last umpteen games.
Weren't the season's following his rookie year reason enough?

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02-16-2012, 09:19 AM
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Just read in the paper that over last 3 games, Mase is 2-1, 2.33 GAA with a .931 save percentage. And that includes the 5 goal debacle in Anaheim. So for argument sake, what if he continues to play like that?

As of right now I think you say "Hey one win was against Minnesota and the other was against the Blues who are not exactly an offensive dynamo. Plus there was a 5 goal game. Same old Mase."

But, and it is a big but, he does perform like that for the remainder of the season, then what?

I think then you trade him and hope like heck that it was an abberation for the last umpteen games.
The problem with the decent performance of Mason in the last few games is that the games don't have the same degree of pressure attached as they would if the team was still in playoff contention.. Minnesota and low scoring SL are not the best tests for a goalie either.. and we know what happened vs. Anaheim.

It's possible that Mason has turned a corner in his career though but more games and games that count are needed for me to jump on his wagon.

The CBJ usually seem to play well after being eliminated, we could be seeing this again.

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02-16-2012, 02:41 PM
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Mason needs to go. I wish him well, but I don't want him on the Blue Jackets next year.

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02-17-2012, 09:05 AM
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Mason needs to go. I wish him well, but I don't want him on the Blue Jackets next year.
ditto.

Howson has to figure out the future of goal tending for this team, and Steve Mason is not an acceptable answer.

And there is no comparison between Mason and Stanford this year. I don't care how close Mason is to Sanford in wins, look at the meat and potato stats...


GAA: Mason 3.40 vs Sanford 2.52
Sv%: Mason .887 vs Sanford .915

They've each played 30 games with the same team, and roughly the same mix of competition. This are no more excuses for Mason, this is the 3rd year in a row his veteran backups have been better than him in goal.

There is no question who the better goalie has been. Sanford has played as well as Vokoun, Niemi, Broduer, Khabibulen, and Hiller this season.

I'd take Sanford as our number #1 next season in a heartbeat if there is no other alternative to Mason.


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02-17-2012, 12:53 PM
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Just read in the paper that over last 3 games, Mase is 2-1, 2.33 GAA with a .931 save percentage. And that includes the 5 goal debacle in Anaheim. So for argument sake, what if he continues to play like that?

As of right now I think you say "Hey one win was against Minnesota and the other was against the Blues who are not exactly an offensive dynamo. Plus there was a 5 goal game. Same old Mase."

But, and it is a big but, he does perform like that for the remainder of the season, then what?

I think then you trade him and hope like heck that it was an abberation for the last umpteen games.
I hope he plays another 3-4 games prior to the deadline to pique interest and if not moved, continue to play lights out and trade him at the draft. This team needs to move on. The body of work is greater than a no pressure end of the season spurt.

Wish him luck but don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!

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Just read in the paper that over last 3 games, Mase is 2-1, 2.33 GAA with a .931 save percentage. And that includes the 5 goal debacle in Anaheim. So for argument sake, what if he continues to play like that?

As of right now I think you say "Hey one win was against Minnesota and the other was against the Blues who are not exactly an offensive dynamo. Plus there was a 5 goal game. Same old Mase."

But, and it is a big but, he does perform like that for the remainder of the season, then what?

I think then you trade him and hope like heck that it was an abberation for the last umpteen games.
Importantly, Mase's reputation is shot with the players.
This is why trading a goalie is often good for everyone concerned.

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02-18-2012, 11:27 AM
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I hope he plays another 3-4 games prior to the deadline to pique interest and if not moved, continue to play lights out and trade him at the draft. This team needs to move on. The body of work is greater than a no pressure end of the season spurt.

Wish him luck but don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
No one will take him, unless they're absolutely convinced that playing in Columbus has so grossly warped Mason that it's worth a gamble. It only takes one team to do that, but I wouldn't expect a return beyond a low-level prospect or a low draft pick.

And with that return, it's almost better to keep him and see if he ever rebounds.

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02-18-2012, 11:58 AM
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And with that return, it's almost better to keep him and see if he ever rebounds.
I'd rather get kicked square in the junk. Send him to the AHL and be done with it. Unless, of course, that's what you mean by "keep him". In that case that's fine.

Hey, what's that sound? Oh that's the waste of another 3.2 million in owners money to go along with other great expenditures like Commie.

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I'd rather get kicked square in the junk. Send him to the AHL and be done with it. Unless, of course, that's what you mean by "keep him". In that case that's fine.

Hey, what's that sound? Oh that's the waste of another 3.2 million in owners money to go along with other great expenditures like Commie.
On the contract list, not on the NHL roster.

On the other hand, his young age would substantially reduce the buyout; he falls into that 1/3 area instead of 2/3.

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On the contract list, not on the NHL roster.
That's fine. They've invested so much into him you might as well bury him for a couple of years and see if someone can beat some sense into him.

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02-18-2012, 02:46 PM
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Here's my take on Mason: He plays with a lot of emotion and some times that's a good thing in a goalie, as opposed to the goalies who seem oblivious of everything else going on on the ice. So, when Mason bangs his stick in frustration when the Jackets don't score in a shootout, fine. That could show he wants to win.

But, I think Mason's problem isn't competitiveness or wanting the CBJ to win, it's ego.

Looking at Mason's POV, it's got to suck some times being behind the Jackets' defense and allowing goals due to defensive let-downs. He likely feels like he has to have some great games where he stands on his head and some blunder by a teammate blows it for him.

He's said stupid things like having a good game, even when the team lost. For a goalie, that can happen. A 0-1 overtime loss. And goalies need to have heads made of teflon and erase bad goals.

The times when the Jackets have been able to win, they play together as a team and scrap together a victory. Journeymen like Sanford or Garon or Tugnutt are able to brush off the stupid letdowns and not get ego get into the way. They aren't trying to prove anything, not watching stat sheets and just want to help the team.

Last season, didn't the Dispatch say the big thing for Mason was getting his season save percentage above .900?

How about not worrying about the stats and looking at scraping together a win?

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02-18-2012, 02:47 PM
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Here's Mason yelling at Todd Richards:

http://www.twitvid.com/G4TKX

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Mason needs to go. I wish him well, but I don't want him on the Blue Jackets next year.
I don't want him here next WEEK.

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I don't want him here next WEEK.
I agree. Waive him, trade him, whatever. Sign Manny Legace or whatever.

Mason needs to be kicked out of the fallout shelter asap.

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#CBJ G Steve Mason was yelling at taunting #Blackhawks fan behind #CBJ bench. Was not yelling at interim coach Todd Richards.

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02-18-2012, 03:12 PM
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#CBJ G Steve Mason was yelling at taunting #Blackhawks fan behind #CBJ bench. Was not yelling at interim coach Todd Richards.
That is BS

Just look at vid that wasn't directed toward a fan it was at the coach

Hawks feed showed him stare at coach as well with angry look late in period and then turn to wipe his face and stare of into space

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Agree with the "let him rot in the AHL" option. No trade value now. Maybe a year in Springfield will somehow raise his stock to 2 late-round draft picks. And no fear of exposing him to waivers. If he gets claimed, great.

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That is BS

Just look at vid that wasn't directed toward a fan it was at the coach

Hawks feed showed him stare at coach as well with angry look late in period and then turn to wipe his face and stare of into space
If you look closely, you can see the head of a fan moving like it's yelling, in a good spot to be heard, right where Mase is looking. Here's a picture: https://twitter.com/#!/macserv/status/171017946859188224/photo/1/large

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If you look closely, you can see the head of a fan moving like it's yelling, in a good spot to be heard, right where Mase is looking. Here's a picture: https://twitter.com/#!/macserv/status/171017946859188224/photo/1/large
You may have a point here.... I know most want Mason tossed under the bus but lets get this one right.

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That Mason is still starting games in the NHL is the most obvious indictment of the current CBJ regime. He is EFFING AWFUL. Seriously, what other team does he start for? Nobody, that's who.

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