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02-23-2012, 12:57 AM
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Watch the two of them play together in the Olympics away from the pressures of Montreal and tell me why they shouldn't be re-united? SK74 has elite playmaking skills. AK46 likes to pull the trigger. Again, why won't they work together?

I'd be very happy adding AK46 to the Preds lineup...
I think that there other players that many of us prefer (most, probably unrealistic). However, this may be our best option, since he should be more easily integrated into the team by playing with his brother. This move may be the least disturbing move to our team chemistry, which will be vital in the playoff run.

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02-23-2012, 01:28 AM
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Watch the two of them play together in the Olympics away from the pressures of Montreal and tell me why they shouldn't be re-united? SK74 has elite playmaking skills. AK46 likes to pull the trigger. Again, why won't they work together?

I'd be very happy adding AK46 to the Preds lineup...
Me too. Think about AK-WILSON-SK

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02-23-2012, 01:49 AM
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Watch the two of them play together in the Olympics away from the pressures of Montreal and tell me why they shouldn't be re-united? SK74 has elite playmaking skills. AK46 likes to pull the trigger. Again, why won't they work together?

I'd be very happy adding AK46 to the Preds lineup...
He has 12 goals. He had 20 goals last year. Decent I guess, but hardly a great (or even good) sniper.

Maybe a change of scenery would lit a fire under is ***, but he's still very much a gamble and it's hardly a given he would work here.

I'd consider him if he comes relatively cheap. I'd offer Brian Finley or Chet Pickard. Their choice.

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02-23-2012, 01:55 AM
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He has 12 goals. He had 20 goals last year. Decent I guess, but hardly a great (or even good) sniper.

Maybe a change of scenery would lit a fire under is ***, but he's still very much a gamble and it's hardly a given he would work here.

I'd consider him if he comes relatively cheap. I'd offer Brian Finley or Chet Pickard. Their choice.
oh come on... as rentals go AK is about par for the course at the deadline.

he'd be a decent addition, and we wouldn't be committed to him beyond this year.

he'd be far better than standing pat, likely as good or better than Hemsky


if an asset is available, like Ribeiro or Carter, of course they are better choices, but if not... you take what you can get

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02-23-2012, 02:03 AM
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AK would be a way better addition to the Preds than Hemsky. Probably cheaper too. Hemsky is not a durable player if he plays hard - so a lot of the time he doesn't appear to play hard.

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He has 12 goals. He had 20 goals last year. Decent I guess, but hardly a great (or even good) sniper.

Maybe a change of scenery would lit a fire under is ***, but he's still very much a gamble and it's hardly a given he would work here.

I'd consider him if he comes relatively cheap. I'd offer Brian Finley or Chet Pickard. Their choice.
He's also 8th in time on ice for forwards on his team. Using your Lombardi logic if he gets 5 more minutes a game it should add 30% to his stats, right?

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02-23-2012, 08:05 AM
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One thing to remember about AK - he's actually available.

I know, we all want the Vanek, Nash, Stastny, etc. But are those guys really available? Or is it just message board and blog fodder and sportsradio filler?

Guys we know are available:

AK, Hemsky, Carter/Nash (but not really to us).

Maybe Grabovski/Roy - but what's the likelyhood of them getting moved while their teams are still fighting for the playoffs? Slim.

What if AK really is the best option?

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02-23-2012, 08:29 AM
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Didn't Mr. Poile allude that another player was in the Big Hal trade, but they couldn't work anything out?? It seems to me that if AK was coming here, last Friday he would have become a PRED.

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One thing to remember about AK - he's actually available.

I know, we all want the Vanek, Nash, Stastny, etc. But are those guys really available? Or is it just message board and blog fodder and sportsradio filler?

Guys we know are available:

AK, Hemsky, Carter/Nash (but not really to us).

Maybe Grabovski/Roy - but what's the likelyhood of them getting moved while their teams are still fighting for the playoffs? Slim.

What if AK really is the best option?
I like the idea of Hemsky more than AK actually

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02-23-2012, 08:41 AM
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I hope the meeting of the minds goes well and is productive today in Smashville. Poile the window is wide open make the right decision and capitalize while you have the assets and chance. Think we can win this now. Not lets make sure we are a a 6-8 seed in the playoffs with a first or second round oust. THE TIME IS NOW!

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02-23-2012, 09:22 AM
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Didn't Mr. Poile allude that another player was in the Big Hal trade, but they couldn't work anything out?? It seems to me that if AK was coming here, last Friday he would have become a PRED.
sorry if I am being repetitive but I think AK was discussed. But being 10 days prior to the deadline MTL likely wanted a significant overpayment to go ahead and commit rather than waiting until the deadline to see if they got a better offer.

Poile made the overpayment to get Gill but decided to wait and see on AK.

If AK is traded before Monday, someone will have paid a premium to go ahead and get him early... come Monday, he will likely be available for true "market" price...

if Poile gets someone else at a good price before then, then we wont be in on AK... if Poile is still looking come Monday, I'd say we will make another offer..

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02-23-2012, 09:33 AM
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In the "no possible way, but its fun to dream" section, Ovechkin seems to be having issues in Washington. He appearently stole the puck off his team-mates stick yesterday. No legit source has said anything (which means he isn't getting traded) but can you imagine if Washington decided he wasn't the right guy to lead their team and dealt him? Remember those Ovi to Nashville rumors a few years back? Like I said, no chance, but man that'd be nice.
Ovechkin and the Caps are so screwed up right now you really wouldn't want him for the cup run. Ovie needs to start fresh with another team so he can work on his mind. And he shouldn't be the captain. A deal after the season I'd agree with. Right now I think he'd hurt the team dynamic more than help it.

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02-23-2012, 09:40 AM
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Personally, I'd be happy if Poile acquired AK46 from Montreal and Paul Gaustad from Buffalo. A top-six and bottom-six upgrade that shouldn't involve blowing up any large chunks of the team.

If we picked up another veteran, playoff tested defenseman in the mix I wouldn't be opposed to that either if it bumped Bouillon to the 7th D slot and Hillen to 8th. Ellis should be returned to Milwaukee to continue playing routinely right now...
I would be very unhappy if Ellis is sent down. Frankly, if we added another D man, we should just move Hillen and Cube for mid/low picks and allow ellis to stay up with the team. Ellis brings more than either of those guys, especially on the powerplay where we really really need him. It would be very foolish to send him down and probably not send the right message to him.

I would be very happy adding AK. I think he is the most likely player to be a pred by next week. I also think Hemsky is a pretty good bet.

Poile has to move a defenseman at some point, he isn't going to keep all of our D men up I don't think... but it better not be sending ellis down. That could have a catastrophic effect on our 2nd powerplay unit which has been producing since ellis' call up.

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02-23-2012, 09:49 AM
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I don't trust Ellis to take a regular shift in the playoffs. If he's in the lineup, it should be as 7th d-man\PP specialist.

His ES play has been good, but not great, and he's been pushed around a bit in the defensive zone. Too risky to have Ellis\Cube caught out due to last change against Kesler or Backes.

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Ellis is good, but not "get us a few rounds deep" good. I'd send him down before the playoffs.

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02-23-2012, 10:08 AM
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I like the idea of Hemsky more than AK actually
As an IR ??? That's where he'll end up in first round in PO.

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Garrioch's latest column has a blurb about the Predators kicking tires on Rick Nash.

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02-23-2012, 10:11 AM
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Agreed with the following post, ak may not gel well with sk and ruining that right before playoffs is a bad idea if we want to go anywhere.
If we acquire ak46, and that's it's before deadline, suter is gonna say F this team I'm gone to free agency after playoffs first or second round exit as usual.

Ak is not a good pickup, look at his stats. Some say he may be better here with less pressure, well that is a huge if. Nobody can tell that and it's not worth gamble.



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I wouldn't want AK because the rumor that Sk would play better without his brother whether is worked out that way I don't know. But at this point we don't what we've got in SK and now were adding to his problems with his brother. Ak is not enough for Suter and Weber to jump up and down. No he shouldn't command that much but if Poile wanted him then I think he would have been included in the Gill deal.

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Ak46 would do very well in nashville.
How can you compare him to Hemsky?

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Garrioch's latest column has a blurb about the Predators kicking tires on Rick Nash.
1) it's garrioch
2) Nash isn't a gamer imo

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02-23-2012, 10:29 AM
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Garrioch's latest column has a blurb about the Predators kicking tires on Rick Nash.
I wouldnt believe anything Garrioch says about us... he is a hater...

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02-23-2012, 10:32 AM
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Let's ask our current best forward who we should pursue?
Martin erat says get hemsky and we will work czech republican magic all over the ice!

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Let's ask our current best forward who we should pursue?
Martin erat says get hemsky and we will work czech republican magic all over the ice!
I don't Hemsky gets Suter and Weber jumping up and down either.

Frankly, I'm getting tired of hearing about what will make S&W stay. They've both been offered good/great money, the team is constantly winning and/or competing with the best teams in hockey, in the toughest division in the NHL. If S&W decide to go, it's because they didn't want to be here any longer. Plain and simple. It's their right to do so. I'll be glad when those two have done whatever it is they are going to do.

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Ellis is good, but not "get us a few rounds deep" good. I'd send him down before the playoffs.
So Klein, Bulls, and Hillen are going to get us deeper than Ellis?

Ellis has been pretty damn steady for a rookie and has gotten better as the season has gone on. I would have him starting over all three and would trust him to make the right decision more than Klein.

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I don't Hemsky gets Suter and Weber jumping up and down either.

Frankly, I'm getting tired of hearing about what will make S&W stay. They've both been offered good/great money, the team is constantly winning and/or competing with the best teams in hockey, in the toughest division in the NHL. If S&W decide to go, it's because they didn't want to be here any longer. Plain and simple. It's their right to do so. I'll be glad when those two have done whatever it is they are going to do.
Good post. I agree completely. Not to spin this thread in another direction, but this is how I feel going into the offseason with Weber as well. If he's still not wanting to commit to a long-term contract, I'm putting him on the block.

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So Klein, Bulls, and Hillen are going to get us deeper than Ellis?

Ellis has been pretty damn steady for a rookie and has gotten better as the season has gone on. I would have him starting over all three and would trust him to make the right decision more than Klein.
Rookies generally burn out quickly. Even the great Josi makes me nervous heading into the playoffs. IMO, the almost daily grind will wear on these kids quickly. So yes, I believe your favorite player, Klein, has a better chance at getting us deeper into the playoffs.

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