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02-01-2012, 03:20 PM
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Washington - Nashville (summer)

Please note that I talk about offseason, not trade deadline

To Nashville:
Mike Green
Jets' 3rd-rounder (acquired in Fehr trade)
1st-rounder (Caps', not Avs')

To Washington
Ryan Suter
Patrik Hornqvist
1st-rounder

Now I'm gonna break it down:

Suter for 3rd-rounder
Ehroff was worth a 4th-rounder last summer, so Suter IMO is worth a 3rd-rounder. Jets' pick is going to be pretty high, so Caps slightly overpay here. Preds win

Green for 1st-rounder
RFA Brouwer was traded for a first-rounder (26th overall) at the draft, and I believe Green's price tag is a little bit more. I assume Nashville will select around 20, but it's still a little bit of underpayment for Greenie, who will likely be healthy after surgery. Preds win

Hornqvist for 1st-round pick
IMHO, that's a fair price for Hornqvist (I assume Caps will select around 25-26 because I think they'll win SE). With one more year on his deal, probably his value is more than this, but it evens things up. Caps win

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02-01-2012, 03:24 PM
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Please note that I talk about offseason, not trade deadline

To Nashville:
Mike Green
Jets' 3rd-rounder (acquired in Fehr trade)
1st-rounder (Caps', not Avs')

To Washington
Ryan Suter
Patrik Hornqvist
1st-rounder

Now I'm gonna break it down:

Suter for 3rd-rounder
Ehroff was worth a 4th-rounder last summer, so Suter IMO is worth a 3rd-rounder. Jets' pick is going to be pretty high, so Caps slightly overpay here. Preds win

Green for 1st-rounder
RFA Brouwer was traded for a first-rounder (26th overall) at the draft, and I believe Green's price tag is a little bit more. I assume Nashville will select around 20, but it's still a little bit of underpayment for Greenie, who will likely be healthy after surgery. Preds win

Hornqvist for 1st-round pick
IMHO, that's a fair price for Hornqvist (I assume Caps will select around 25-26 because I think they'll win SE). With one more year on his deal, probably his value is more than this, but it evens things up. Caps win
Suter-Green

1st-1st = even unless it's Colorado's pick.

Hornqvist-3rd?

Doesn't really make that much sense for the Predators. We trade our best defender, our leading scorer, and a 1st for one defenseman and a pick just seems like a waste.

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02-01-2012, 03:25 PM
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So Green and a 3rd for Suter and Hornqvist. Not sure WSH does the deal for a UFA.

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Suter-Green

1st-1st = even unless it's Colorado's pick.

Hornqvist-3rd?

Doesn't really make that much sense for the Predators. We trade our best defender, our leading scorer, and a 1st for one defenseman and a pick just seems like a waste.
I think it's basically for the Suter rights I guess. I would rather just trade Suter's rights alone for the highest pick/best prospect possible instead of a package.

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02-01-2012, 03:49 PM
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Please note that I talk about offseason, not trade deadline

To Nashville:
Mike Green
Jets' 3rd-rounder (acquired in Fehr trade)
1st-rounder (Caps', not Avs')

To Washington
Ryan Suter
Patrik Hornqvist
1st-rounder

Now I'm gonna break it down:

Suter for 3rd-rounder
Ehroff was worth a 4th-rounder last summer, so Suter IMO is worth a 3rd-rounder. Jets' pick is going to be pretty high, so Caps slightly overpay here. Preds win

Green for 1st-rounder
RFA Brouwer was traded for a first-rounder (26th overall) at the draft, and I believe Green's price tag is a little bit more. I assume Nashville will select around 20, but it's still a little bit of underpayment for Greenie, who will likely be healthy after surgery. Preds win

Hornqvist for 1st-round pick
IMHO, that's a fair price for Hornqvist (I assume Caps will select around 25-26 because I think they'll win SE). With one more year on his deal, probably his value is more than this, but it evens things up. Caps win
Caps aren't trading mike green... not for another UFA that's for sure. Besides they will get him at a discount due to his injuries. Green is huge part of this team... dont see him being traded at all...

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As a Caps fan, I would do this. I am one of the few fans on these boards that doesnt like Green one bit so I will do anything to get rid of him for a new D-man

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02-01-2012, 03:55 PM
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To Nashville:
Backstrom
To Washington
Ryan Suter
1st-rounder

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02-01-2012, 03:58 PM
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To Nashville:
Backstrom
To Washington
Ryan Suter
1st-rounder
LMAO.

Franchise center for a rental franchise dman.. LOLOL

What happens when Suter walks for free agency at the end of the year?

Franchise center for a mid-late first.. bahaha.

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Backstrom
To Washington
Ryan Suter
1st-rounder
No way in hell. IMO, Backstrom is our best and most valuable player.

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02-01-2012, 04:17 PM
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Caps have the Jets 4th rounder, not their 3rd.

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As a Caps fan, I would do this. I am one of the few fans on these boards that doesnt like Green one bit so I will do anything to get rid of him for a new D-man
All you've proven is you hate and undervalue Green to the point of self destruction to get rid of him.

This proposal is a categorical no thanks. If Suter gets to the off season without a contract in place it's because he wants it that way. That would tell me he wants to hit the open market and you've wasted assets.

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All you've proven is you hate and undervalue Green to the point of self destruction to get rid of him.

This proposal is a categorical no thanks. If Suter gets to the off season without a contract in place it's because he wants it that way. That would tell me he wants to hit the open market and you've wasted assets.
Ya cause clearly what we have on D is working so well, with or without Green. I want Suter, finally a number 1 D. We can give him pretty good money once Green and Sarge are gone.

You guys can also have Ward back in the deal

Also. LOL at the Backstrom deal.

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If Washington wants to cut ties with semin why not
Semin
Green
Caps 1st

for
Suter
Hornqvist

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Suter holds little value in the off season. Based on the past 2 seasons, for negotiation rights you can get as much as a 3rd round pick, depending on days left before July 1st. Granted it's Suter, it still won't be worth anything more than a 2nd round or a conditional late 1st.

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If Washington wants to cut ties with semin why not
Semin
Green
Caps 1st

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Suter
Hornqvist
LOL. We're trading a 1st and a top notch RFA for Hornqvist?

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I would do it. Orlov/Carlson/Wideman would make up for Green and we need a rock on D like Suter.

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Suter-Green

1st-1st = even unless it's Colorado's pick.

Hornqvist-3rd?

Doesn't really make that much sense for the Predators. We trade our best defender, our leading scorer, and a 1st for one defenseman and a pick just seems like a waste.
'Your best defender' won't play in a Nashville uniform next season regardless, plus this is in the off-season and it'll be days before his contract expires.

Makes sense imo, but Nashville wants to compete NOW and trading Hornqvist for a 3rd Rounder won't really help matters. Although getting Green in would be excellent if they could land a half-decent OFFENSIVE player this summer

It's hit and miss, but plausible

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No thanks. We will sign Suter then develop our own Mike Green AKA Ryan Ellis.

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Nashville is in a position to compete now. Doesn't make sense to trade your best defensemen in the midst of a playoff run.

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Nashville is in a position to compete now. Doesn't make sense to trade your best defensemen in the midst of a playoff run.

It says Summer.

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No thanks. We will sign Suter then develop our own Mike Green AKA Ryan Ellis.
Because its just that easy. Ive seen this exact post several times,and yet not one young defenseman has come even close to what a healthy Green produces. 31 goals and nearly 80 pts...does nashville even have a forward who puts up those numbers?

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LOL. We're trading a 1st and a top notch RFA for Hornqvist?
I said if Washington doesn't want Semin than they can atleast get something for him also he is a Ufa so he can walk if he wants.

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Suter-Green

1st-1st = even unless it's Colorado's pick.

Hornqvist-3rd?

Doesn't really make that much sense for the Predators. We trade our best defender, our leading scorer, and a 1st for one defenseman and a pick just seems like a waste.
Suter is UFA Green is RFA. They are not close to same value. If Suter is signed and traded then its alot more.

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And if Suter doesn't sign here because he wants to test the UFA market since he has no WSH ties then what?

Who takes Green's spot?

Awful trade. If Suter is a UFA then sign him, and then try to deal Green. This would be wreckless. TBH, if Green is healthy enough to trade then I'd rtaher ship out Carlson.

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I said if Washington doesn't want Semin than they can atleast get something for him also he is a Ufa so he can walk if he wants.
Yeah, no ****. But Suter is a UFA as well. I have no problem with trading Semin's rights for Suter's. But throwing in Green and a 1st for Hornqvist is just asking Washington to bend over and take it.

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