Turris has been flirting with a 60 point pace since he's been here, and it's still clear has room to grow. 70 points is still optimistic, but not out of the question.
Turris has been flirting with a 60 point pace since he's been here, and it's still clear has room to grow. 70 points is still optimistic, but not out of the question.
He's 22, skipped training camp, and is still flirting as you said with a 60 point season. It's very realistic to predict 70 points + has an average over his entire career. I'm pleasantly surprised to say the least. And no signs of a bad attitude since his arrival too.
He's 22, skipped training camp, and is still flirting as you said with a 60 point season. It's very realistic to predict 70 points + has an average over his entire career. I'm pleasantly surprised to say the least. And no signs of a bad attitude since his arrival too.
He never had a bad attitude, his agent took a suspect route to getting what him and his client wanted and apparently needed.
The guy plays and looks like he could score major points as a 2nd line C.
What's your evaluation been of Kyle Turris thus far?
Considering the way he's surprising goaltenders when he shots, the way he's making plays, and making plays in tight areas....I'd say he could crack 70 points. I don't know about whether he does it every year. But I think we got a well above average 2nd line center.
He's been very good... he's also making split decisions and almost always moving his feet (to add to your skill evaluation).
Hopefully it's not high from moving to a new team and it continues after Alfredsson is removed from his line.
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Originally Posted by Iamok
Turris has been flirting with a 60 point pace since he's been here, and it's still clear has room to grow. 70 points is still optimistic, but not out of the question.
In 05/06 & 06/07, scoring was quite a bit higher than it is now and it was nearly impossible to crack 60+ points without 1st unit PP time then.
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Originally Posted by L'Aveuglette
He's 22, skipped training camp, and is still flirting as you said with a 60 point season. It's very realistic to predict 70 points + has an average over his entire career. I'm pleasantly surprised to say the least. And no signs of a bad attitude since his arrival too.
He practiced with Phoenix for a month and played 2 weeks of games, that's where a player is at on Game 1 of the season.
Again, only 24 players had 70+ points last year. Here are most (20) of the names:
He's been very good... he's also making split decisions and almost always moving his feet (to add to your skill evaluation).
Hopefully it's not high from moving to a new team and it continues after Alfredsson is removed from his line.
The Alfredsson chemistry is something that seems to be growing as time goes on. It's part of why he looks so good, but I think it's part of why Alfie looks so good still as well. They look oddly similar in caliber, both seem to be handling the puck and making plays equally.
Would he have the same way with Michalek? I doubt it.
Those two lately together have been beyond what I was hoping for and Turris could still gain something from some added strength.
He practiced with Phoenix for a month and played 2 weeks of games, that's where a player is at on Game 1 of the season.
This is very faulty logic. The practice he was getting was nothing like the practice you get in training camp. Was Kuba at his top for 2 months after returning from his injury?
The Alfredsson chemistry is something that seems to be growing as time goes on. It's part of why he looks so good, but I think it's part of why Alfie looks so good still as well. They look oddly similar in caliber, both seem to be handling the puck and making plays equally.
Would he have the same way with Michalek? I doubt it.
Those two lately together have been beyond what I was hoping for and Turris could still gain something from some added strength.
i would not go that far. as much as turris has impressed, the way alfie is playing right now, there is no comparison imo. one timers, pp work, penalty kill, forechecking, backchecking, passing,...there is nothing alfie cannot do and is not doing at a very high level right now. turris has a way to go before you can compare them like that.
i would not go that far. as much as turris has impressed, the way alfie is playing right now, there is no comparison imo. one timers, pp work, penalty kill, forechecking, backchecking, passing,...there is nothing alfie cannot do and is not doing at a very high level right now. turris has a way to go before you can compare them like that.
More or less talking about the way they are playing with each other lately. It doesn't appear to be one carrying the other...seems to go both ways.
This is very faulty logic. The practice he was getting was nothing like the practice you get in training camp. Was Kuba at his top for 2 months after returning from his injury?
No, because Kuba was coming off of a back surgery and a broken leg.
Huge difference there.
No, because Kuba was coming off of a back surgery and a broken leg.
Huge difference there.
Yes, but he still never got into form. Obviously its different, but you still can't replace training camp with regular practice and games. Not to mention, most players don't start the season at their peak performance. The quality of play gets higher and higher as the year goes on. No matter how you look at it, Turris missed a substancial portion of the season.
My only concern with Turris is that he will be watched more carefully from teams in the east now that they have had a chance to see him a couple of times & see that he is putting up points consistently. Hopefully, though he can play through that & continue to contribute offensively for the remainder of the season, the playoffs & carry it into next yr. Ottawa needs him to contribute consistently on the 2nd line to be successful especially once Alfie retires.
Sure he never had the stats in 4 part time years in the nhl but you can see in the last month that this kid is good regardless that he plays with Alfie or not.
When Pierre McGuire talked of the trade after it happened he said he excepts Turris to be a really really good 2nd line center....and his game is patterned after Yzerman.
I went back and skimmed through an old Detroit game from when Yzerman was 24. He was right.
It just goes to show you what ice time/confidence can do for a player. I've been pleased with his play thus far.
I'm pretty sure Tippett stripped him of his creativity. That no look behind the back pass was probably something Turris wasn't allowed to do in Phoenix.
People speak of bad attitude...but at the end of the day it seemed like Turris just played by Tippett's rules and after long enough they found a way to get him out.
Is getting faster, craftier with every game. his head is huge right now and is willing to make plays, make moves. The power of positive reinforcement is what we are seeing here. The guy is amazing. His pass to Alfie after he scored was unbelievable vision.
