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02-22-2012, 05:36 PM
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can't see Hamilton. how bad would that be to choose to move the Yotes to the City thats tied to the reason of why the NHL had to buy the team..


edit: that sentence makes perfect sense in my head.. not so much when i read it though lol
Yeah maybe Hamilton should try for the Bills. I see in today's paper, Toronto told them to take a hike. They won't even be playing their last scheduled exhibition game here. The mini poll says it all about the two sporting cultures (American and Canadian) Question: Will you miss the bills? 46 responded yes, 913 said No

It appears to mirror Hockey and some U S markets.

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Yeah maybe Hamilton should try for the Bills. I see in today's paper, Toronto told them to take a hike. They won't even be playing their last scheduled exhibition game here. The mini poll says it all about the two sporting cultures (American and Canadian) Question: Will you miss the bills? 46 responded yes, 913 said No

It appears to mirror Hockey and some U S markets.
whaaaaa?? gotta link? i wanna read!
maybe thats why i havent seen Melrose Munch on here, he's too busy sobing over no NFL.

if Hamilton didnt already have a football team (no CFL jokes please lol) it would be a perfect location for the Bills, if they were to move north that is.

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02-22-2012, 05:43 PM
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whaaaaa?? gotta link? i wanna read!
maybe thats why i havent seen Melrose Munch on here, he's too busy sobing over no NFL.

if Hamilton didnt already have a football team (no CFL jokes please lol) it would be a perfect location for the Bills, if they were to move north that is.
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/22/bye-bye-bills

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wow.. i have to say good riddance. but wow

"And everybody in the Rogers’ boardroom said, “Hallelujah!”

Fans who bought tickets will be reimbursed — not that there are a lot of those. And having paid up to $275 a pop to spend the last four years sitting next to folks on freebies, many of those are likely saying “hallelujah,” too.

Only about 15,000 ticket packages (five regular season and three preseason games) were sold."

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wow.. i have to say good riddance. but wow

"And everybody in the Rogers’ boardroom said, “Hallelujah!”

Fans who bought tickets will be reimbursed — not that there are a lot of those. And having paid up to $275 a pop to spend the last four years sitting next to folks on freebies, many of those are likely saying “hallelujah,” too.

Only about 15,000 ticket packages (five regular season and three preseason games) were sold."
Could you imagine the fans in Phoenix saying that about the Cardinals. The cultures are different there is no doubt.

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02-22-2012, 06:16 PM
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Could you imagine the fans in Phoenix saying that about the Cardinals. The cultures are different there is no doubt.
i'd imagine there would be a few more than 959 votes for that poll lol

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i'd imagine there would be a few more than 959 votes for that poll lol
That in itself says alot. But 914 to 46 is quite a landslide even for a small sampling.

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For way less than 550 million.
550 mil? sorry DR im lost.. hockeyhopeful side tracked me with his splendid news lol

whats the 550mil?

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550 mil? sorry DR im lost.. hockeyhopeful side tracked me with his splendid news lol

whats the 550mil?
I don't blame you, somehow my 250 mill turned into 550.

If a team goes to Hamilton I bet it will be for less than what Balsillie wanted to pay.

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02-22-2012, 06:34 PM
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I don't blame you, somehow my 250 mill turned into 550.

If a team goes to Hamilton I bet it will be for less than what Balsillie wanted to pay.
Toronto would want 250 million, Buffalo would want 50 million, a new arena in about 10 years so they may as well build it now for another 400 million then the NHL will want 170 million so close to a billion.

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Toronto would want 250 million, Buffalo would want 50 million, a new arena in about 10 years so they may as well build it now for another 400 million then the NHL will want 170 million so close to a billion.
i got 15bucks.. deal?

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I don't blame you, somehow my 250 mill turned into 550.

If a team goes to Hamilton I bet it will be for less than what Balsillie wanted to pay.
i remember the # 100 milion that the NHL was trying to put on the price tage for relocation fee (Saint Jimmy wanted to pay 12 lol)

if it is open to highest bidder it probably wont come in cheaper than Saint Jimmy's price

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Could you imagine the fans in Phoenix saying that about the Cardinals. The cultures are different there is no doubt.
Before they got the new stadium in Glendale, they pretty much were.

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So if Jamieson is approved by the NHL/BOG, gets to the lease agreement stage, and demands concessions from the City of Glendale to subsidize the losses, is there a chance we could see the GWI intervene once again?

It just seems like a lot of money to be thrown into a team that probably won't draw any different under a new owner. I would imagine that any type of municipal subsidization would have a drastic effect on the landscape of the purchase.

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02-22-2012, 07:51 PM
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Or it could be a bit more vague, like this statement from the NHL in December, 2009.

http://www.wingszone.com/nllmb/showthread.php?t=45507

As CF has noted above, the point is that it has been lack of agreement on a lease that has prevented previous transactions from closing, and until details of lease negotiations become public it will be difficult to know where this deal might go.
Oh, that's what's missing, a letter of intent. It's quite possible that that's what the announcement is all about, Jamison putting it out there to try to get exclusive negotiation rights, hopefully draw in the capital that he's missing right now and to the shoo away the vultures that are currently pecking at the carcass...

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Oddly Hulsizer was at last nights game with his kids. The kids were wearing Blues hats..... crazy days in the desert.

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It just seems like a lot of money to be thrown into a team that probably won't draw any different under a new owner.

What are you basing that assumption on?

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Oddly Hulsizer was at last nights game with his kids. The kids were wearing Blues hats..... crazy days in the desert.
"My Dad tried to buy a hockey team and all I got was this lousy hat."


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Could you imagine the fans in Phoenix saying that about the Cardinals. The cultures are different there is no doubt.
Granted the cultures are different, but that doesn't really pertain to this situation. The Cardinals attendance was dismal when folks didn't sit in 100 degree temps watching a bad team, big difference being overall television revenue for the NFL.

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"My Dad tried to buy a hockey team and all I got was this lousy hat."

Yeah, but they got some Coyote back packs a year ago!

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Oh, that's what's missing, a letter of intent. It's quite possible that that's what the announcement is all about, Jamison putting it out there to try to get exclusive negotiation rights, hopefully draw in the capital that he's missing right now and to the shoo away the vultures that are currently pecking at the carcass...

The carcass is so big that the vultures are still at peace with each other.

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Toronto would want 250 million, Buffalo would want 50 million, a new arena in about 10 years so they may as well build it now for another 400 million then the NHL will want 170 million so close to a billion.
There is no way the leafs & Sabres would get that much money it would be more like 50 million for the leafs & 30 million for the Sabres & nothing more . The Sabres should consider them selves lucky to be getting anything because the Sabres so called teritory in southern Ontario ends in Niagara not Hamilton & if you want to get technical the Sabres do not televise or advertise in Hamilton .

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whaaaaa?? gotta link? i wanna read!
maybe thats why i havent seen Melrose Munch on here, he's too busy sobing over no NFL.

if Hamilton didnt already have a football team (no CFL jokes please lol) it would be a perfect location for the Bills, if they were to move north that is.
rogers screwed up hard.

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So...

What is the status of the Coyote's ownership?

Where does everything stand?

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So...

What is the status of the Coyote's ownership?

Where does everything stand?
Check this thread series exactly 2 years back today and you'll have your answer.

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