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02-02-2012, 11:59 AM
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Edm - Tor

To Edm

Mike Komisarek
Matthew Lombardi
Matt Frattin
Suart Percy (1st rd 25th overal)


To Tor
Ryan Smith
Ales Hesmky

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02-02-2012, 12:01 PM
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What's in it for the Oilers?

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02-02-2012, 12:04 PM
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No thanks, if Smyth does get traded (and i doubt it) it'll be a rental and he will be back in Oiler colours next year and there is nothing in that package outside of Percy that gets me excited, maybe Percy and a first for Hemsky but even that i doubt i'd do.

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02-02-2012, 12:48 PM
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Mike Komisarek
Matthew Lombardi
Matt Frattin
Suart Percy (1st rd 25th overal)


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Ryan Smith
Ales Hesmky
what do we want these rentals for!!!.assets for these rentels does'nt make sence!

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02-02-2012, 12:52 PM
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what do we want these rentals for!!!.assets for these rentels does'nt make sence!
Komisarek and Lombardi are borderline assets more so on the oilers. however with the new impending CBA the leafs are going to need to shed some serious cap. With these trades it makes us more competitive for a playoff run and opens up necessary cap space in the meantime

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02-02-2012, 12:59 PM
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Just out of curiosity what is Ryan Smiths contract?

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02-02-2012, 01:00 PM
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lol Toronto easily says no.

Komi is playing solid minutes, and I like Frattin a lot for his role.

Smyth is definitely going to resign with the Oilers in the summer, and Hemsky is broken. How does this make us better?

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02-02-2012, 01:06 PM
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I really don't see what Lombardi does for us. Even Komisarek while there was a time I'd take a chance on him I rather just re-sign Sutton.

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02-02-2012, 01:08 PM
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lol Toronto easily says no.

Komi is playing solid minutes, and I like Frattin a lot for his role.

Smyth is definitely going to resign with the Oilers in the summer, and Hemsky is broken. How does this make us better?
What is solid minutes? There are 4 leafs that play 21 minutes or more and then 4 that play 16 minutes. Komisarek is in the 16 minute bracket.

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Just out of curiosity what is Ryan Smiths contract?
6.25 for this his last year of the contract

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02-02-2012, 01:51 PM
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What exactly does Edmonton gain from this??

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02-02-2012, 01:53 PM
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Leafs fan saying no thanks.

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02-02-2012, 02:02 PM
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Take out Smyth and Hemsky and it ain't bad, but I dont see Burke going after Hemsky.

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02-02-2012, 02:04 PM
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What exactly does Edmonton gain from this??
its not that bad. maybe not ideal.

you get a decent dman prospect in percy
komisarek isnt anything special but neither is the oilers blueline
frattin is a big young forward
lombardi might be able to help the oilers out, theyve gotta try and do something

its pretty lopsided in terms of salary though so i doubt the oilers would be crazy about it.

i wouldnt be too crazy about it as a leaf fan though. hemsky wouldnt really help much. smyth would be a good add, but is the pure definition of a rental.

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02-02-2012, 02:04 PM
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What exactly does Edmonton gain from this??
Frattin and Percy?

Leaf fan saying no thanks, no need to sell prospects for rentals. We have no realistic shot at the cup this year.
Komisarek is playing decent anyway, and if need be, we can just dump Lombardi in the AHL.
Don't want Hemsky, unless Edmonton is willing to take a package of Lombo/Komi/Armstrong.

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02-02-2012, 02:05 PM
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I don't see Cody Franson in the proposal so no go boys, no go.

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02-02-2012, 02:08 PM
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Percy is a decent prospect but the rest are just players that you guys are trying to dump. We would get a lot more if we split them up.

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02-02-2012, 02:09 PM
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Percy is a decent prospect but the rest are just players that you guys are trying to dump. We would get a lot more if we split them up.
You don't know who Frattin is do you?

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02-02-2012, 02:14 PM
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Frattin would be stellar with OKC for years but I'd rather keep Hemsky for the original proposal.

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02-02-2012, 02:19 PM
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brutal trade, edmonton says not a chance

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02-02-2012, 02:20 PM
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I'd deal Komisarek and Lombardi for anything Oil fans want

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02-02-2012, 02:25 PM
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As a leafs fan I would do this simply for dumping the salary, I don't see us keeping either player after this year but could possibly help for a playoff push.

From Edmonton POV I don't see them doing this, I think they could get more for Hemsky and Smyth, but as a leafs fan I wouldn't want to give up more. Even as it is I'm torn at it almost thinking it's giving up too much, maybe a pick instead of Frattin/Percy, but still Edmonton won't bite.

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02-02-2012, 02:47 PM
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Mike Komisarek
Matthew Lombardi
Matt Frattin
Suart Percy (1st rd 25th overal)


To Tor
Ryan Smith
Ales Hesmky


And move Kulemin and MaC to the 3rd line? Yah, that'll happen.


Edit: How many times do leaf fans have to repeat that they aren't giving up prospects/assets unless it brings back a #1C?

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02-02-2012, 02:54 PM
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Matthew Lombardi
Matt Frattin
Suart Percy (1st rd 25th overal)


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Ryan Smith
Ales Hesmky
matthew lombardi would have negative trade value in this deal... there is no way edmonton would want to get hit with that contract for next year so take him out...

the rest of the deal is interesting but probably not enough...

we arnt sure that smyth would accept a deal to toronto.. he seemed pretty keen on finishing his career in edmonton where he started... if they are willing to bring him back i think he intends to sign a hometown discount deal to basically ride off into the sunset at the 'leader' of the young guys. leaders dont bail at the deadline for a shot at being a mercenary on some rental package...

and toronto doesnt have the cap space anyhow... so take out smyth along with lombardi

now we have hemsky for komasarek, frattin, and a first and to be honest the deal looks pretty damn good for both teams...

hemsky is NOT mr wonderful but he probably would be quite a decent upgrade for grabovski as a winger over anyone else toronto is using there. if i was toronto i could probably even want to resign hemsky and grabovski for the future if they did have chemistry cause when they are motivated they arent super soft guys for euros... and gravoski can be a shooter and hemsky obviously can be a playmaker... and kulimen probably would fit in just fine as the 3rd member of this line to bring some size to the line...

frattin is really of little value long term to edmonton since they have better prospects, but he might be ok next year and then they could move him for whatever...

i dont know anything about the pick but picks are always picks... im sure there is some value there.

and as for komasarek, this guy was pretty damn decent at times for montreal... he is obviously overpaid and has struggled to live up to the contract, but if he had a fresh start he does have enough raw talent that he might be able to turn it around and become useful again...

and its not like edmonton is overloaded with high quality vet dmen. Hed be a big upgrade over sutter or peckham at the very least.. way more useful then strudwick was...and his contract expires before cap will be an issue...

edmonton is never likely to be able to sign an ufa at a resonable price... so they do have to overpay to get any decent vets to join the team. trading for one isnt the end of the world if its someone that might help

take out smyth because he probably wouldnt waive his ntc anyhow and isnt affordable... and lombardi cause hes totally useless to edmonton at his price point and as a center with their logjam they already have with overpiced unproductive centers... and you got a pretty decent deal here imho

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Many Leafs fans just killed themselves at the thought of this trade. Renting Smyth? lol

Hemsky=Overrated+Underachieving

Wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.

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