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02-03-2012, 10:32 AM
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Nash or Ryan?
Definite possibility it seems now. I don't know why else they'd clear so much up without chasing guys like those two.

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I think insiders like Dreger and Mckenzie are tools for GMs and not a nuisance. Often they are mouthpieces for them disseminating messages to other GMs around the league.
Do you really think Burke is the kind of guy that needs/wants to do that? We have seen how he works, he's in their face and if they don't like it they can ....

Actually any GM in their right mind would not opperate that way.

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that's all i could find:

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Apparently it might be Ryan Smyth


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Ryan Smyth controls the cards and can dictate terms. He can pick his destination. Slats and Smyth have a good relationship. Bryan McCabe was only interested in playing for the Rangers last February which lowered the price. 3rd round pick and Tim Kennedy.

2nd round pick and a mid level prospect.

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Apparently it might be Ryan Smyth
It will be for cheap. Theirs no question that he will bolt for the Oilers again.

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that could be it

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What would we pay for stoll? And how would we make room for him?

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02-03-2012, 11:00 AM
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What would we pay for stoll? And how would we make room for him?
What problem would he solve?

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I could see cap going down, but I think the new CBA is going to provide some sort of out for teams.

Could even see some clawback on length with a formula to take into account front loaded deals.
That sounds reasonable.

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What I'm getting at is it's going to increase, therefore long contracts such as Carter's won't be nearly as bad as people think in the later stages.
Not to mention his 11% increase makes no sense at all. Its not as if his cap hit is indexed to inflation. Its 5.2 now, it'll be 5.2 in ten years. All that matters is that the cap hit is a lower percentage each year and people are dreaming if they think it won't be higher than 64 million in a decade.

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is gagner untouchable ?

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is gagner untouchable ?
No he is pretty terrible 81 games out of the season.

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is gagner untouchable ?
Yesterday at this time what would you have thought about him? And given up for him?

Does that change today?

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02-03-2012, 11:09 AM
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What problem would he solve?
I dont think its necessarily a problem, but he fits the burke mold. He is also accomplished in the dot, an area we still mediocre in.

We also might be able to send a contract LAs way, and hes a UFA, thus clearing roster space.

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is gagner untouchable ?
Don't know, Chicago's goaltending definitely isn't.

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Yup

05/06 - 39.6
06/07 - 44.0
07/08 - 50.3
08/09 - 56.7
09/10 - 56.8
10/11 - 59.4
11/12 - 64.3

62% increase over 7 seasons.
If you honestly think the cap will be continually increasing at that rate... sweet lord

The NHL is a league that culled back on its financial disparity through the cap. The initial numbers were at 39 million because of how unsteady league revenues had become due to unfair advantages to larger markets. Since the lockout, revenues have stayed the same or increased for the most part, leading to an increase in caps. But there is ALWAYS a ceiling. Hockey is a niche sport. The cap will hit an all-time high after the next CBA, but it will have to come down at some point seeing as how revenues likely won't expand that drastically. Also considering that in the next CBA discussions, both the owners and union will have to figure out how to address the growing disparity between cap floor and cap ceiling teams - it's getting closer and closer to the pre-lockout days.

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02-03-2012, 11:12 AM
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I dont think its necessarily a problem, but he fits the burke mold. He is also accomplished in the dot, an area we still mediocre in.

We also might be able to send a contract LAs way, and hes a UFA, thus clearing roster space.
Leafs and Kings are in similar situations, trades between the two are unlikely.

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02-03-2012, 11:12 AM
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if the price is right
he's only 22
anyone that scores 8pts in a game must have some ability
i doubt they trade him

they could trade lots:
smyth - naw
hemsky - moderately interested
sutton - naw
khabibulin -.....naw

we'll see what they're about come monday

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02-03-2012, 11:15 AM
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Do you really think Burke is the kind of guy that needs/wants to do that? We have seen how he works, he's in their face and if they don't like it they can ....

Actually any GM in their right mind would not opperate that way.
I wasn't specific enough to include Burke, but he does play the media when he wants to. All I'm saying is that sometimes there are "leaks" and I suggest that these leaks are often planted by the GMs themselves to garner more interest around the league.

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02-03-2012, 11:19 AM
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Leafs and Kings are in similar situations, trades between the two are unlikely.
How are they at all in similar situations?

I suppose if you are speaking specifically about standings?

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02-03-2012, 11:19 AM
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is gagner untouchable ?
Not interested in him for the Leafs. He's too small and soft.

Although he had a brilliant night, I can't see his value dramatically increasing unless he can do it again or have a career year. He's still pretty much on pace for the same 40-50 points he's had for the last 4 seasons.

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02-03-2012, 11:21 AM
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Okay, enough of the sudden love for Gagner, that NOBODY seemed to want 14 hours ago.

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02-03-2012, 11:24 AM
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How are they at all in similar situations?

I suppose if you are speaking specifically about standings?
Yes, the standings.

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02-03-2012, 11:25 AM
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Yes, the standings.
Well im sorry but with lots of games to go and the OBVIOUS difference in quality between these two teams, I think your out to lunch to say that just because they are close in the standings precludes them from deals together.

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