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02-02-2012, 01:40 PM
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Columbus GM on Doughty goal: Should have been PATHETIC!!!

‘Either there was a deliberate stopping of the clock or malfunction’

All I have to say is pathetic. Another black eye on this sport for some stupid reason.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...163522195.html

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02-02-2012, 01:50 PM
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‘Either there was a deliberate stopping of the clock or malfunction’

All I have to say is pathetic. Another black eye on this sport for some stupid reason.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...163522195.html
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When reached by ESPN.com, Kings general manager Dean Lombardi responded with a curious email:

"Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs -- given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see -- the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 - 10ths of a second before the delay -- this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes That is not an opinion -- that is science -- amazing devise quite frankly."
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/75...s-blue-jackets

That "malfunction" happens all the time, nothing to get worked up over.

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02-02-2012, 01:56 PM
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As we all know that it will be declared to be a malfunction, nothing will happen.

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When reached by ESPN.com, Kings general manager Dean Lombardi responded with a curious email:

"Those clocks are sophisticated instruments that calculate time by measuring electrical charges called coulombs -- given the rapidity and volume of electrons that move through the measuring device the calibrator must adjust at certain points which was the delay you see -- the delay is just recalibrating for the clock moving too quickly during the 10 - 10ths of a second before the delay -- this insures that the actual playing time during a period is exactly 20 minutes That is not an opinion -- that is science -- amazing devise quite frankly."
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/75...s-blue-jackets

That "malfunction" happens all the time, nothing to get worked up over.
A clock which needs to recalibrate 3 times in 60 minutes is called sophisticated in the 21st century. Yeah for sure .

If you have nothing to say you better keep your mouth shut, imho. (edit: That's my advice for Lombardi, not for ledzep1212 ).


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02-02-2012, 02:29 PM
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If CBJ doesnt make the playoffs then we know why



That was messed up but I actuaally notice that the clock does that alot but thats the first time I seen somone score after it....

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Only the Isl....oh wait

See other clubs get screwed too

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Although I feel terrible for CBJ, the recalibration of the clock is a legitimate reason.

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that is not fair.
They need to fix it.

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Although I feel terrible for CBJ, the recalibration of the clock is a legitimate reason.
My Rolex watch does not need to recalibrate. Shoot even a Timex does not need to recalibrate.

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How would this go down if it was the playoffs ?

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I would either take away 1 point from LA and give it to Columbus. Otherwise give Columbus a point or have the two play a 5 minute OT in Columbus just for that point.

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I heard of tanking but Columbus just took it to another level

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I would either take away 1 point from LA and give it to Columbus. Otherwise give Columbus a point or have the two play a 5 minute OT in Columbus just for that point.
I agree with you. However the NHL already sad they cant change this.

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And I always think we have it bad. Poor Columbus, they have so many decent players but they can never put it together.

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nothing will happen, and I'm sure its happened before in other sports, but not in this dramatic of circumstances (goal being scored in the dying seconds).

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nothing will happen, and I'm sure its happened before in other sports, but not in this dramatic of circumstances (goal being scored in the dying seconds).
More like dying second huh?

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That look awfully suspect. If their is a problem the league needs to correct that like yesterday. Could you imagine if that was game 7 of a playoff round? Also if the clock does self correct, it shouldn't do it that close to zero.

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colon the clueless wonder campbell already said that they cant change the results even if it was human caused..

tsn however superimposed a working clock over the columbus game clock to show the goal would not have counted

say this was spotted right away as in right as the goal happened.. then what would they have done? how woudl the war room have handled that?

ages ago in an isles-rags game with butch as our coach, we had dealt with a similar issue.. we were on a PK, the clock froze for about 10 seconds, instead of our guy coming out of the box, he was stuck in the box still despite the clock being frozen, the rangers score, butch throws a huge fit b/c we were shorthanded for 10 seconds longer than it should have, yet they still allwoed the goal to count..

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colon the clueless wonder campbell already said that they cant change the results even if it was human caused..

tsn however superimposed a working clock over the columbus game clock to show the goal would not have counted

say this was spotted right away as in right as the goal happened.. then what would they have done? how woudl the war room have handled that?

ages ago in an isles-rags game with butch as our coach, we had dealt with a similar issue.. we were on a PK, the clock froze for about 10 seconds, instead of our guy coming out of the box, he was stuck in the box still despite the clock being frozen, the rangers score, butch throws a huge fit b/c we were shorthanded for 10 seconds longer than it should have, yet they still allwoed the goal to count..
Can we add this to the Butchisms?

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i dont get how you CANT do anything about it. At the very LEAST it should give columbus an extra point.

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http://watch.tsn.ca/featured/clip612269#clip612269

TSN shows the game clock and their own super imposed timer at the same time, showing the goal was no good...

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How would this go down if it was the playoffs ?
That would horrible. If it happened against us I'd seriously lose it.. But we'd need to make the playoffs first. Regardless of situation it still sucks for Columbus they gotta feel screwed and rightfully so.

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‘Either there was a deliberate stopping of the clock or malfunction’

All I have to say is pathetic. Another black eye on this sport for some stupid reason.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...163522195.html
It goes beyond pathetic. It's a disgrace, and that's worse than pathetic. At some point, logic has to come into play. but like you say about a black eye for the sport, logic goes beyond the sport's hierarchical capacity. That play needed to be reviewed, the time that the clock was stuck on 1.8 had to be calculated and deducted. This is really horrible. Can you imagine if this happened in a game 6 or a game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final? And with that said, the Calgary Flames still won the Stanley Cup in 2004. A goal that went off of Martin Gelinas in game 6 failed to make it's way to review. So that also lends itself to the league's lack of responsibility.

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I just saw the replay on NHL.com; my opinion? There's an off-ice official who should be fired in Los Angeles. The puck goes out of sight for a split second, and I'm guessing the the off-ice official anticipates a whistle that never came and stopped the clock. Or, it's possible that he tried to stop it at a less conspicuous 2.0 seconds. Either way, I strongly believe that the person who operates the clock goofed, and should be appropriately penalized for it.

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the clocks do malfunction without human cause and stop, which is why theres 2 guys with stopwatches also timinig the game yet why were neitehr of them talkign to the officials..

kerry fraser said 1 guy is in the video review room in the home stadium and the other is in the penalty box.. as he says, of course none of the 3 either ever match b/c of reaction time, but both stop watches should have been at 0:00 regardless... and someone should have said something..

was the goal even reviewed on the ice to check the time it crossed? if so, how does the reviewer not see the frozen clock and call toronto on this, even if it wasnt being reviewed by the refs, why was there no buzz to the score table for the review guys upstairs to verify the time the puck crossed the line?

something clearly is not matching up here... video review should have been an immediate call as soon as the puck went in seeing as the clock read 0:00, toronto should have been following that play immediately watching the clock to see the cross over hte line time, and if they did, they would have seen the clock stop and called LA ..

where is the communication line here? someone isnt saying something...

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