HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Toronto Maple Leafs
Notices

Top 5 gm in the nhl in past 5 years and why

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-03-2012, 09:28 PM
  #1
bigtreez1020
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Kitchener
Country: Canada
Posts: 2
vCash: 500
Top 5 gm in the nhl in past 5 years and why

cant wait for feed back


Last edited by LeeIs: 02-04-2012 at 12:48 PM. Reason: it's not a GDT.
bigtreez1020 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:29 PM
  #2
RaskY
Re-registered User
 
RaskY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,637
vCash: 50
1. Burke
2. Burke
3. Burke
4. Burke
5. Burke?

RaskY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:32 PM
  #3
BIitz
BPA Free Lining
 
BIitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Uptown
Country: Mexico
Posts: 12,917
vCash: 500
Holland, Shero, Gillis, Holmgren, Burke, Chia. Not 5, but pick your poison. Forgot Tallon and Poile..

Edit oh past 5 years, my bad. K don't take this psot seriously.

BIitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:36 PM
  #4
FishManSam
Bobs Yummy Burgers!
 
FishManSam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: I Bet You Hate T.O
Country: Croatia
Posts: 4,869
vCash: 500
The GM's of the last five teams that won the cup.

FishManSam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:39 PM
  #5
ACC1224
Burke was right.
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 27,730
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtreez1020 View Post
cant wait for feed back
You'd get all kinds on the NHL Board.

ACC1224 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:42 PM
  #6
Hurt
Global Moderator
 
Hurt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 23,353
vCash: 500
In no real order.. Chiarelli, Poile, Shero, Tallon, Holland.

Hurt is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:42 PM
  #7
Pi
Registered User
 
Pi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 25,920
vCash: 100
Quote:
Originally Posted by SundinOurOnlyChance View Post
The GM's of the last five teams that won the cup.
Yeah, I'm going with this.

I think Burke is king of the trading department but we still haven't made the playoffs (you can't really blame him, we depended on guys like Stajan and Blake)..

Pi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:43 PM
  #8
Igy
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Igy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,981
vCash: 500
Holland
Chiarelli
Burke
Shero
Gillis

Igy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:43 PM
  #9
DaveT83*
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,760
vCash: 500
John Ferguson Jr FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DaveT83* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:48 PM
  #10
FishManSam
Bobs Yummy Burgers!
 
FishManSam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: I Bet You Hate T.O
Country: Croatia
Posts: 4,869
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pi View Post
Yeah, I'm going with this.

I think Burke is king of the trading department but we still haven't made the playoffs (you can't really blame him, we depended on guys like Stajan and Blake)..
Burke is still on that list

FishManSam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:52 PM
  #11
Pi
Registered User
 
Pi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 25,920
vCash: 100
Quote:
Originally Posted by SundinOurOnlyChance View Post
Burke is still on that list
OHHHH YEAHH!! Nice one

Pi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:58 PM
  #12
Woodman19
#TeamBernier
 
Woodman19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 12,020
vCash: 500
George McPhee - Rebuilt Washington into a strong team from the ground up

Peter Chiarelli - Rebuilt Boston into a Stanley cup champion while still rebuilding with lottery picks

David Poile - Has managed to keep Nashville competitive for the last decade with much less resources.

Dean Lombardi - Completely loaded up the Kings system and has produced a very strong team in the west that should compete for the next 5 years.

Dale Tallon - Rebuilt and won the cup with Chicago, is now using that method to acquire top notch players with the Panthers.


Last edited by Woodman19: 02-03-2012 at 10:05 PM.
Woodman19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 09:59 PM
  #13
ForzaZuffa
Don't stare at it...
 
ForzaZuffa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Country: Italy
Posts: 9,278
vCash: 500
Chia and Holland... then everyone else

ForzaZuffa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 10:15 PM
  #14
Stephen
Registered User
 
Stephen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 31,071
vCash: 500
Chiarelli for building Boston into a winner from scratch basically
Shero for making great deals
Tallon for his work with the Blackhawks rebuild and cup win, has the Panthers up and running a lot faster than Burke managed with the Leafs
Poile for keeping Nashville in top condition
Sather have the Rangers on the right track after some really funky years

Others I want to comment on:

Lamoreillo seems to have really lost his touch since the lockout

Yzerman a bit overrated given his two years in management

Holland laid the foundations fifteen years ago, hasn't really been that busy

Holmgren very ballsy, always seems to work out

McPhee and Doug Wilson have hit brick walls with regards to getting their teams over the hump

Lombardi in LA is overrated. I like his philosophy but he drafted way too many defensemen with high picks, has a big log jam and the Kings find themselves with a lack of firepower

Darcy Regier stale Buffalo organization probably needs a enema.

Rutherford, how did he win a cup in 2006? He always seems to overpay his own players, make bad trades and have underachieving teams with good pieces.

Gillis benefiting greatly from the foundation work done by Burke and Nonis.

Stephen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 10:17 PM
  #15
Pi
Registered User
 
Pi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 25,920
vCash: 100
^^^ I'd also like to add Bowman to the massively overrated list. He has done nothing for his team after the SC win which was mainly all of Tallon's players.

Pi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 10:17 PM
  #16
BIitz
BPA Free Lining
 
BIitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Uptown
Country: Mexico
Posts: 12,917
vCash: 500
Holland is at the top of the list though, easily.

BIitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 11:38 PM
  #17
Hero
Raptors 13/14
 
Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 18,772
vCash: 50
TSN said Burke was number 1 with Chia at 2

Hero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 11:46 PM
  #18
PresidentCamacho*
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Burlington, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,170
vCash: 500
1. Peter Chiarelli
2. David Poile
3. Dale Tallon
4. Ray Shero
5. Ken Holland

I feel no need to get long-winded and break down the greatness of all these managers. Rather, it will suffice to say that these men are economical in their approach to adding real value to their organization. All are Cup-winners save for David Poile, GM of the cap floor Nashville Predators, and all by no surprise have an incredibly strong drafting record.

PresidentCamacho* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-03-2012, 11:54 PM
  #19
anderson3133
Registered User
 
anderson3133's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Kitchener
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,430
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PresidentCamacho View Post
1. Peter Chiarelli
2. David Poile
3. Dale Tallon
4. Ray Shero
5. Ken Holland

I feel no need to get long-winded and break down the greatness of all these managers. Rather, it will suffice to say that these men are economical in their approach to adding real value to their organization. All are Cup-winners save for David Poile, GM of the cap floor Nashville Predators, and all by no surprise have an incredibly strong drafting record.
Economical and Dale Tallon seem pretty weird to associate with one another.

anderson3133 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-04-2012, 12:09 AM
  #20
PresidentCamacho*
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Burlington, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,170
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by anderson3133 View Post
Economical and Dale Tallon seem pretty weird to associate with one another.
You should probably take note that the Panthers are ahead of us in the standings, spending $8 million less, and this, after coming off a 28th place finish last year.

For starters...

PresidentCamacho* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-04-2012, 12:13 AM
  #21
Sergei Berezin
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ottawa, ON
Posts: 5,992
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PresidentCamacho View Post
You should probably take note that the Panthers are ahead of us in the standings, spending $8 million less, and this, after coming off a 28th place finish last year.

For starters...
What, do you just disregard everything he did before?

What about letting Grabner walk away for nothing? If Burke did that, no one would ever hear the end of it.

Sergei Berezin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-04-2012, 12:14 AM
  #22
IBLeaf*
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Oakville, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,378
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hero View Post
TSN said Burke was number 1 with Chia at 2
In terms of trades.

IBLeaf* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-04-2012, 12:15 AM
  #23
PresidentCamacho*
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Burlington, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,170
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergei Berezin View Post
What, do you just disregard everything he did before?

What about letting Grabner walk away for nothing? If Burke did that, no one would ever hear the end of it.
I tend to be forgiving for GM's who personally assembled a Cup-winning team. In three years since picking Kane 1st overall, they won a Cup.

It seems like you are disregarding everything he did before.

PresidentCamacho* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-04-2012, 12:22 AM
  #24
anderson3133
Registered User
 
anderson3133's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Kitchener
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,430
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by PresidentCamacho View Post
You should probably take note that the Panthers are ahead of us in the standings, spending $8 million less, and this, after coming off a 28th place finish last year.

For starters...
You're defending the guy who left Chicago in financial shambles thanks to the brilliant signings of Cristobal Huet and Brian Campbell. Chicago was also forced to lose their cup winning goaltender along with Havlat, trade Troy Brouwer (I know you love him) and Kris Versteeg. You've blamed Burke on several occasions for similar reasons after his cup win in Anaheim and yet Tallon is the economical one?


Last edited by anderson3133: 02-04-2012 at 12:28 AM.
anderson3133 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-04-2012, 12:28 AM
  #25
PresidentCamacho*
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Burlington, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,170
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by anderson3133 View Post
You're defending the guy who left Chicago in financial shambles thanks to the brilliant signings of Cristobal Huet and Brian Campbell. Chicago was also forced to lose their cup winning goaltender, trade Troy Brouwer (I know you love him) and Kris Versteeg. You've blamed Burke on several occasions for similar reasons after his cup win in Anaheim and yet Tallon is the economical one?
I'm not defending anything. The results speak for themselves. I'm sorry they don't please you.

28th overall last year with Florida -> 3rd place right now
27th overall in 2006/2007 with Chicago -> Stanley Cup in 2009/10

Burke finished 7th last during the 2008/09 season so it seems with a better team than both Tallon's 2006/07 Blackhawks and 2010/11 Panthers, he is far behind.


PresidentCamacho* is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:26 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.