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Huberdeau or Grigorenko

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Jonathan Huberdeau 45 37.50%
Mikhail Grigorenko 75 62.50%
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02-04-2012, 06:15 PM
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Huberdeau for sure. We need a quebecer superstar.

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02-04-2012, 06:19 PM
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Huberdeau. No question. He's canadian. and being in montreal, i guess he sorta gets bonus points for being french-canadian. I would love to have this guy on the habs. Not some ****ing heartless russian who's just gunna bolt or fold when he can't handle this league.
I expect hate after this much losing, but this kind always takes me by surprise. It's hard to believe some people still think like this.

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02-04-2012, 06:53 PM
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I'd like to say Grigs, but I really like Huberdeau.

I'll say both are too close to call.

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02-04-2012, 07:09 PM
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IMHO i would rather have huberdeau, i think he cares more about winning.

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02-04-2012, 07:17 PM
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IMHO i would rather have huberdeau, i think he cares more about winning.
Because he's Canadian?

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02-04-2012, 07:38 PM
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Because he's Canadian?
Not that Grigs has had the same chance, but Huberdeau was a workhorse for the Dogs in the POs last year. Which is what rocketed him to where he got. I think that's what he meant. He's a guy that has an extra gear when everything is on the line.

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02-04-2012, 07:39 PM
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Because he's Canadian?
no becuase he's french canadian

Im not xenophobic or anything but watching Huberdeau and grigorenko play i just feel like Huberdeau plays with more intensity.

This has nothing to do with his nationality. Dustin penner is one of the laziest players in the nhl and he's canadian.

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02-04-2012, 07:51 PM
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I'd take Huberdeau. He's one year less risk retired. I don't see Grigorenko or Yakupov as being clearly better. They might be better. But then they might not. They have an extra year for things to go off the rails, or for an injury to hit, etc. I don't watch the Q though, so maybe those who do have a better head-to-head feel for the players. I watch Yakupov more. I can see flipping a coin as to which is better between him and Huberdeau.

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02-04-2012, 08:28 PM
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IMHO i would rather have huberdeau, i think he cares more about winning.
Because he's canadian?

Give me the 6'2 center who's just as talented as Huberdeau por favor.

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02-04-2012, 09:04 PM
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Because he's canadian?

Give me the 6'2 center who's just as talented as Huberdeau por favor.
I usually find the reputation of Russians to be unfair, and Grigorenko doesn't look lazy or anything to me but if we are talking about intensity, I definitely see Huberdeau having an extra gear. Grigorenko is very cerebral which isn't a bad thing, but I don't see heart on his sleeve type passion.

I hate when people say we need to go for Canadians because they are tougher or whatever. It's nonsense and it has been for a long time. Yakupov on the other hand is as intense as any stereotypical heart and soul Canadian player.

That being said I think if we can draft Grigorenko, we do and don't worry about anyone else. A Russian Joe Thornton, or a Yashin without the money obsession would be very nice.

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02-04-2012, 09:06 PM
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Why is it so hard to understand the idea of building a hockey team that consists primarily of players from the country that OWNS the ****ing game in every sense of the word?
Being so pre-occupied about where players/coaches come from is the reason why we are this position in the first place. Take the best player, regardless of where they are from. Fans will love a Russian player who scores 80 points more than a french canadian who scores 60. You guys go out of your way to get french people and you risk missing out on something bigger.

I despise your attitude/view on all of this. However, I do respect it, so calm the ******* down

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02-04-2012, 09:07 PM
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I'll take my chances with Grigo. Huberdeau is a really good talent as well, but Grigorenko is what this franchise needs more than anything. Of course, I hope the Habs do background checks into the guy's character, like I would any other prospect, but if character is not an issue (and I see no reason for it), then I take him.

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02-05-2012, 04:40 AM
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I chose Grigs in the poll, but I'd rather get Yakupov in this year's draft.

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02-05-2012, 08:59 AM
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Huberdeau. No question. He's canadian. and being in montreal, i guess he sorta gets bonus points for being french-canadian. I would love to have this guy on the habs. Not some ****ing heartless russian who's just gunna bolt or fold when he can't handle this league.
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02-05-2012, 10:14 AM
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I voted Huberdeau. Mainly because he won't bolt for KHL if things get tough in Montreal. Far as talent...probably a toss-up.

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02-06-2012, 02:16 AM
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voted huberdeau.

mostly for ethnocentric reasons though and he was in complete god-mode during the wjc. yeah, the latter is a better reason

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02-06-2012, 02:27 AM
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The only thing I don't like about Grigorenko is he wears the #25 the same #25 worn by Doug Wickenheiser when he was drafted #1 in 1980.Otherwise I think he's great.

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02-06-2012, 07:05 AM
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Don't want the Russian. So Hubs

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02-06-2012, 07:17 AM
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I voted Huberdeau. Mainly because he won't bolt for KHL if things get tough in Montreal. Far as talent...probably a toss-up.
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Don't want the Russian. So Hubs
Yup. Russians are heartless machines that bolt when things get tough, Just like Markov did.

I'd take the larger just as talented centre. Grigorenko played very well in the WJC, and he is showing his dominance in the Q.

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02-06-2012, 07:24 AM
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Huberdeau.

Grigorenko is hyped by Quebec's media machine. The guy is friggin invisible, unless he has the puck in the offensive zone. He WILL play in the NHL -- but he's that kind of player that will never play on a winner.

The only IF is... Not convinced Huberdeau will be able to play C in the NHL... and we really need that center.

Grigorenko ISN'T that center.

3rd overall? Pick Jacob Trouba. (considering Forsberg, Yakupov goes 1-2)

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02-06-2012, 07:33 AM
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Huberdeau.

Grigorenko is hyped by Quebec's media machine. The guy is friggin invisible, unless he has the puck in the offensive zone. He WILL play in the NHL -- but he's that kind of player that will never play on a winner.

The only IF is... Not convinced Huberdeau will be able to play C in the NHL... and we really need that center.

Grigorenko ISN'T that center.

3rd overall? Pick Jacob Trouba. (considering Forsberg, Yakupov goes 1-2)
Damn you Trevor Timmins! Putting down our favourite prospects then pimping an American D that will be available 10 picks later than where you suggest.

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Damn you Trevor Timmins! Putting down our favourite prospects then pimping an American D that will be available 10 picks later than where you suggest.
I haven't said that trading down wasn't a possibility (I'd highly suggest this if we cannot pick Filip Forsberg or flip the pick for Huberdeau), but actually, if Jacob Trouba is picked, let's say, 11th, 6 head scouts should immediately resign.

EDIT : I really, really like Yakupov's skill as well.

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02-06-2012, 07:47 AM
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Damn you Trevor Timmins! Putting down our favourite prospects then pimping an American D that will be available 10 picks later than where you suggest.
Keyword here : Our favorite vs. The best.

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02-06-2012, 07:47 AM
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I would take Huberdeau for many reason.

1- More intensity
2- Elevate his game when it counts
3- Grigorenko is invisible on the ice unless he has the puck. Despite being a center, he reminds me more about Semin than anything else, and I don't want a Semin-like with that team.
4- It is a lesser important reason, but unless many here, I do take into account the french factor -- it has some importance, ask Ken Dryden.

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