this is so rediculous. The team lost one game after winning three before it. It was on the road against the team with the most points in the hardest division in hockey. We are missing our captain, 3rd d man and 5 D man. We dont have the depth. We are playing with like 6 rookies.
You want to fire quenneville for this????? Whatever keep on whining and whining because he wont get fired. hes obviously the best coach that we can have right now. Some people...its like people expect to be number 1 in the conference and win the cup every year. Its just not how it works. Parody--Cap Era. We are on the brink of reloading with some good younger players to add depth. Lets wait to see if we can make/ do damage in the playoffs before you FIRE the coach who is the second fastest to 500 wins in NHL history
i'm a new blackhawks fan. i expect the hawks to win the stanley cup every year. i didn't watch the team at all during the dark years, so i have no idea what it's like when the hawks really suck ass. i also whine about how the hawks have no chance of making the playoffs whenever they lose a game bc i expect the hawks to be 82-0 every year. they should fire bowman and quenneville regardless of their many years of hockey experience and knowledge. they should also trade patrick kane for ryan miller bc that's the most realistic trade i've ever heard of. LOL
i didn't watch the team at all during the dark years, so i have no idea what it's like when the hawks really suck ass.
Well, you've definitely gotten a taste of the gong show and inexplicably cheap aspects this year. Signing has beens/never weres and expecting them to be the huge additions, overusing them.
You can't fire Q this year!! As much as I agree they need a shake-up. I don't think it is the time for firing him.
I do hold Q responsible for the bad Power Play. I don't hold him responsible for bad goaltending.
The team is playing good through Toews, Hjalmarsson & Montador injuries.
We never did address the 2nd line center position and we waited very long to get a defenseman. Those are Bowman issues.
We should be an elite team and we are not. Three reasons why we are not elite.
1. We have a little better than average defense. This team defense rarely can go on stretches where they play for 60 minutes. This is a big difference from 2 years a go. Keith is still good, but he is not at all-star level. Seabrook may have passed Keith on the depth chart.
2. Goaltending we have left 6-10 points on the ice with less than average play.
3. Goal differential elite teams get it done and score on the Power Play. Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp four all-stars that look like college players when they are on the man advantage. This is the area where Campbell is missed the most.
There is no reason for the Power Play to be bad for one year straight.
One reason is that the team is run by masterminds that think they are better off with Kruger and Brunette on the power play instead of Bolland.
Bolland is on the ice? Where was he during the last 15 games?
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Originally Posted by ChiHawk21
this is so rediculous. The team lost one game after winning three before it. It was on the road against the team with the most points in the hardest division in hockey. We are missing our captain, 3rd d man and 5 D man. We dont have the depth. We are playing with like 6 rookies.
You want to fire quenneville for this????? Whatever keep on whining and whining because he wont get fired. hes obviously the best coach that we can have right now. Some people...its like people expect to be number 1 in the conference and win the cup every year. Its just not how it works. Parody--Cap Era. We are on the brink of reloading with some good younger players to add depth. Lets wait to see if we can make/ do damage in the playoffs before you FIRE the coach who is the second fastest to 500 wins in NHL history
Coach Q is no the issue that out team has. It is the injuries and out players not giving a consistant effort. I think this summer Q will clean up his staff and we will see some measurable improvement. Coaches can't play the game for players and it does not appear to be a situation where they have given up on him.
[QUOTE=Bubba88;45675399]Bolland is on the ice? Where was he during the last 15 games?
Even at his worst Bolland is way better than Kruger and Brunette offensively. The power play struggles so you put out a forward line of Brunette, Kruger and Bickell. You don't have to be a genius to figure out that that group isn't going to cut it. When Kane struggled offensively you didn't replace him on the powerplay with Frolick.
Where are these "Fire Q!" moronic posts when the Hawks are winning?
That's right, nobody says a ****ing word. Simply put, a lot of you are borderline insane.
Borderline insane for wanting to fire an inept and overrated coach? Gotcha, guess I need to check into the asylum. The homerism on this board gets worse each and every passing day.
Borderline insane for wanting to fire an inept and overrated coach? Gotcha, guess I need to check into the asylum. The homerism on this board gets worse each and every passing day.
how is he inept and overrated? because thats your opinion? because the wins sure dont look that way and great hockey minds all find Q to be a pretty damn good coach.
how is it homerism to think that he shouldnt be fired?
people saying the hawks should fire q are prolly the same ones saying the cubs should have hired sandberg
I would say the opposite is more likely to be true. People who want Q to stay are probably the ones who were tripping over themselves at the very thought of Ryno getting hired.
It is pretty awesome that the majority of the lemmings here are so very satisfied with the status quo. No one, from management on down can do any wrong. No accountability, but hey they won the Cup two years ago (and the almighty coach Q led them there!!!) so everything is just peachy.
I would say the opposite is more likely to be true. People who want Q to say are probably the ones who were tripping over themselves at the very thought of Ryno getting hired.
It is pretty awesome that the majority of the lemmings here are so very satisfied with the status quo. No one, from management can do any wrong. No accountability, but hey they won the Cup two years ago so everything is just peachy.
just bc we don't want q fired doesn't mean we're satisfied with the status quo. don't be ridiculous. some of the hawks stars have been underperforming at times. should we get rid of them too? and the current status quo is not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.
and i love ryno, but dale sveum was the better choice
just bc we don't want q fired doesn't mean we're satisfied with the status quo. don't be ridiculous. some of the hawks stars have been underperforming at times. should we get rid of them too? and the current status quo is not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.
and i love ryno, but dale sveum was the better choice
Obviously Sveum was the better choice; that was the point I was trying to make. People are clouded by what happened two years ago and are not able to objectively realize Q is just not that good of a coach. I am sick of the emasculation of this team and it starts with him, as well as the lackluster special teams. Both of those have their imprint from Q and are a reason (not the sole one, mind you) this team will probably back into the playoffs again and get bounced in the first round also again.
this is so rediculous. The team lost one game after winning three before it. It was on the road against the team with the most points in the hardest division in hockey. We are missing our captain, 3rd d man and 5 D man. We dont have the depth. We are playing with like 6 rookies.
You want to fire quenneville for this????? Whatever keep on whining and whining because he wont get fired. hes obviously the best coach that we can have right now. Some people...its like people expect to be number 1 in the conference and win the cup every year. Its just not how it works. Parody--Cap Era. We are on the brink of reloading with some good younger players to add depth. Lets wait to see if we can make/ do damage in the playoffs before you FIRE the coach who is the second fastest to 500 wins in NHL history
No, I want to fire Q for the last two seasons of unstructured, undisciplined, soft, fundamentally CRAP hockey and for the Hawks being unprepared to play more often than not. Is that OK with you?
Obviously Sveum was the better choice; that was the point I was trying to make. People are clouded by what happened two years ago and are not able to objectively realize Q is just not that good of a coach. I am sick of the emasculation of this team and it starts with him, as well as the lackluster special teams. Both of those have their imprint from Q and are a reason (not the sole one, mind you) this team will probably back into the playoffs again and get bounced in the first round also again.
fair enough. i still think people are putting way too much of the blame on quenneville and bowman
just bc we don't want q fired doesn't mean we're satisfied with the status quo. don't be ridiculous. some of the hawks stars have been underperforming at times. should we get rid of them too? and the current status quo is not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.
and i love ryno, but dale sveum was the better choice
yea, some players have underperformed at times, the coaching staff has underperformed for the better part of 2 seasons.
No, I want to fire Q for the last two seasons of unstructured, undisciplined, soft, fundamentally CRAP hockey and for the Hawks being unprepared to play more often than not. Is that OK with you?
Your posts here and at the 300 level have been nothing short of superb lately Pez. Kudos
Kurtosis, I like the cut of your jib, keep going. Regarding Q, coaching hiring and firing in all sports goes a certain way. You give the HC full reign after a championship or maybe just right off the bat because you trust him. But, once consistent failure creeps in, you have to cut the assistants loose in favor of better ones. If that doesn't work, HC hits the bricks. We're at a turning point but I don't think it is necessarily the right time to just axe Q and call it a day. He needs someone to help him though. And I agree, I was never a fan of Q when he was with St. Louis and Colorado. He's not that great of a coach. He's above average but there are a number of coaches better than him.
Obviously Sveum was the better choice; that was the point I was trying to make. People are clouded by what happened two years ago and are not able to objectively realize Q is just not that good of a coach. I am sick of the emasculation of this team and it starts with him, as well as the lackluster special teams. Both of those have their imprint from Q and are a reason (not the sole one, mind you) this team will probably back into the playoffs again and get bounced in the first round also again.
Opinion...out of every coach in the NHL he has the most wins.
The preds have 2 more wins then the hawks does that make Trotz a bad coach?
through 14 seasons with the blues, avs, and hawks, quenneville has missed the playoffs only once. his record through those seasons is 579-356-77. hmmmm great production from coaching 3 different teams.
xX Hot Fuss is right. you are all insane. just a bunch of haters who demand perfection in every game.
Opinion...out of every coach in the NHL he has the most wins.
The preds have 2 more wins then the hawks does that make Trotz a bad coach?
No what makes Q a bad coach are the horrendous systems he has implemented on this team, his constant and inane line juggling which stifle any sort of continuity, and his baffling retention of one of the worst assistant coaches in the league, Kitchen. I could keep going, but most will just counter with mindless arguments and red herrings.
