Would you trade our 2012 1st round pick right now?
Would you trade our 2012 1st round pick right now?
It's #2 overall or higher right now, that's an insane amount of value at first glance.
I just know that with the team almost 100% healthy right now we're going to blow this draft spot out of the water if they stay healthy. For sure we pass every other team with 49 points or less right now, that would put us drafting 8th. If we get a good d-man right now with that pick then for sure the pick finishes no better than 10th.
GM's looking at that pick have to be reminded of Seguin, maybe thinking about Whitney's foot and RNH's shoulder etc, etc.
I'd go all-in right now with that pick, cash it in at it's current trade value and run like mad. If we could get Suter (if he agreed to sign) for it there's no way that we will ever regret it.
What would you do?
Last edited by Oi'll say!: 02-04-2012 at 06:05 PM.
I likely won't be alive by then so I could care less who we draft that year. I thought you just made a typo with the date in the title, but it was wrong in the OP as well -____-
I would wait until the trade deadline to see what position the team is in first but normally 1st round draft picks are very valuable to team s that can't attract UFA's so probably not.
I did not answer the poll. You tell me the trade and I will tell you if i trade it. I would trade anyone on the oilers for the right deal but could not just say , trade a pick or player without seeing who is coming back.
unless it was for a young proven defenceman which is highly unlikely and we're in a rebuild mode so no point to trade the 1st rounder, Edmonton can actually start developing their young guns in the AHL after their junior careers now.
I did not answer the poll. You tell me the trade and I will tell you if i trade it. I would trade anyone on the oilers for the right deal but could not just say , trade a pick or player without seeing who is coming back.
I threw Suter's name into the ring, that's enough value for me.
If Nash gave us permission to hash out a 5 year deal with Suter and it got done within 2 days from now I'd take it. We finish the season With Suter, Whitney, Gilbert, Smid, Sutton and Petry/Potter on d plus all of our fwds healthy and there's no way in hell the Oilers' draft pick is better than 9th overall.
I think Suter for 5 years is more value than a 9th overall pick.
Even w/o Suter we're drafting no better than 6th and I think Suter is still worth more than the 6th overall pick.
Can we get him on the open market? We don't have a high success rate with that level of ufa and despite what he said there's still a chance Nash signs him b4 the deadline.
I want the Oil to win a Cup and I think that if we get Suter we're contenders, soon.
If the pick stays at #2 which i highly doubt because i think that the team is way too good to finish that low then no because i don't feel like any team will offer enough to warrant the Oilers giving up that pick and no, an unsigned Weber or Suter is not nearly good enough neither is Subban although Myers would be interesting if he was indeed on the trading block but even then, i would say no.
The only way that i trade that pick is if the Oilers aren't interested in drafting one of the Russians and they trade down a couple of spots and gain some assets in the process otherwise keep the pick and draft a franchise player, seems like a no brainer to me.
absolutely not. top 5 is all looking studly. top 10 in general is sweet as cherry pie. opportunities abound for teams selecting in that range to draft future #1 defenseman. theres no reason for the Oilers to trade the pick unless someones knocks their socks off with a trade offer but its unlikely.
quite frankly i think its ridiculous people even suggest the Oilers should, could trade their first rounder given what stage they're at in the rebuild. theyre going to get a complete stud. why pass up on another homegrown gamebreaker.
If the pick stays at #2 which i highly doubt because i think that the team is way too good to finish that low then no because i don't feel like any team will offer enough to warrant the Oilers giving up that pick and no, an unsigned Weber or Suter is not nearly good enough neither is Subban although Myers would be interesting if he was indeed on the trading block but even then, i would say no.
The only way that i trade that pick is if the Oilers aren't interested in drafting one of the Russians and they trade down a couple of spots and gain some assets in the process otherwise keep the pick and draft a franchise player, seems like a no brainer to me.
So if you think the Oil are way too good to finish with the #2 draft spot then they have no shot at the russians anyways. The value of the pick to you is based on where you think it will end up.
If they had 2 more wins right now they'd be in the #8 draft spot. I bet anything that they don't finish better than 7th, and then they have what, a 1.5% chance of drafting 3rd or something like that?
If they end up drafting 8th what are they going to get, Matt Dumba? Are you thinking that Dumba or any other d-man drafted from 5th onwards is going to be as good as Suter within the next 5 years? When do you want to win the Cup? 7 years from now? How else are we going to acquire a d-man of that calibre? When we have our 8th or 10th overall pick in the stable at the beginning of next season do you think we'll be able to trade him for Suter?
This pick is Tambo's biggest trading chip outside of RNH and Hall right now. It's smoke and mirrors - way overvalued imo. When the dust settles at the end of the season this chip will not be worth as much as Sam Gagner.
Here's alist of guys drafted in the 6th to 10th spots who would be around their 5th season if we had picked them. Everyone from 6 seasons ago to 4 seasons ago....
2005 6th - 10th Gilbert Brule, Jack Skille, Devin Setoguchi, Brian Lee, Luc Bourdon
2006 6th - 10th Derick Brassard, Kyle Okposo, Peter Mueller, James Sheppard, Michael Frolik
2007 6th - 10th Sam Gagner, Jakub Voracek, Zach Hamill, Logan Couture, Keaton Ellerby
How many of these guys had as much impact over the last 4-6 seasons as Suter will have over the next 5 years?
So if you think the Oil are way too good to finish with the #2 draft spot then they have no shot at the russians anyways. The value of the pick to you is based on where you think it will end up.
If they had 2 more wins right now they'd be in the #8 draft spot. I bet anything that they don't finish better than 7th, and then they have what, a 1.5% chance of drafting 3rd or something like that?
If they end up drafting 8th what are they going to get, Matt Dumba? Are you thinking that Dumba or any other d-man drafted from 5th onwards is going to be as good as Suter within the next 5 years? When do you want to win the Cup? 7 years from now? How else are we going to acquire a d-man of that calibre? When we have our 8th or 10th overall pick in the stable at the beginning of next season do you think we'll be able to trade him for Suter?
This pick is Tambo's biggest trading chip outside of RNH and Hall right now. It's smoke and mirrors - way overvalued imo. When the dust settles at the end of the season this chip will not be worth as much as Sam Gagner.
Here's alist of guys drafted in the 6th to 10th spots who would be around their 5th season if we had picked them. Everyone from 6 seasons ago to 4 seasons ago....
2005 6th - 10th Gilbert Brule, Jack Skille, Devin Setoguchi, Brian Lee, Luc Bourdon
2006 6th - 10th Derick Brassard, Kyle Okposo, Peter Mueller, James Sheppard, Michael Frolik
2007 6th - 10th Sam Gagner, Jakub Voracek, Zach Hamill, Logan Couture, Keaton Ellerby
How many of these guys had as much impact over the last 4-6 seasons as Suter will have over the next 5 years?
The correct answer is zero, and by a longshot.
Suter just flat out isnt signing an extension with us, so unless you have another target idea, keeping the pick is the best play we can make.
there just isnt a realistic target that's worth it on from out end.
The easiest way to acquire a top pairing defenseman is to draft one. They better be picking the best defenseman available with their first three picks. The forwards of the future are more less set and in place. Defense is very much lacking, and they can make some huge strides in correcting that at the next draft.
As a mere poster I lack the power.
