No thanks......If they're going to trade PA, they have to get a proven defenseman or a first round pick or I wouldn't do it.
No more picks, we need players that can contribute right away. I like the idea of acquiring Blum. I don't know about exact values and all that stuff, but he does kind of fit the profile of what we're looking for. He'd probably be our 4th best defenseman right now. I like that he's a RH shot and he's known for his offensive ability.
Hamonic while he is a solid player a good pick. I would not call it a GREAT pick. He was a solid Second round pick. Not a great pick IMO.
He is also young still. He could turn out to be a great pick. Right now i would just call it a good pick.
I mean Josh Baily is not looking to good. A guy who is a top 10 pick should have been better. Same Goes Okposo.
Bailey is starting to figure it out, he will be pretty good starting next year, Hamonic wasn't a great pick? **** out of here with that ********. Also Okposo was taken by Neil Smith.
Bailey is starting to figure it out, he will be pretty good starting next year, Hamonic wasn't a great pick? **** out of here with that ********. Also Okposo was taken by Neil Smith.
100% agree. hamonic was a GREAT pick. He's only going to get better.
Bailey is starting to figure it out, he will be pretty good starting next year, Hamonic wasn't a great pick? **** out of here with that ********. Also Okposo was taken by Neil Smith.
We heard the same thing with Bailey last year going into this year. The guy is a 3rd line player. A good team does not count on a player to "breakout" the next season. They know what they have and should accept it, or improve upon that player.. If a player does breakout it is a bonus. Hamonic was a great pick, really the only one Snow made. JT was a layup and guys like Martin are good picks but a 3rd line guy does not make a or break a bottom 5 team.He has been unable to draft top talent or bring in top end talent other than JT. Nino is a huge ?? at this point he looks like dog poo. We will see with Strome
Bailey is starting to figure it out, he will be pretty good starting next year, Hamonic wasn't a great pick? **** out of here with that ********. Also Okposo was taken by Neil Smith.
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(and yes, Hamonic was a great pick)
Bailey might never be more than Brad Lauer, unfortunately. My bet is he needs a solid coach that suits his needs and a buddy coach like Cappy, who I think has done alright with the drek Snow gave him in terms of vets, doesn't work. Nolan would have. Hitchcock would have been perfect.
We heard the same thing with Bailey last year going into this year. The guy is a 3rd line player. A good team does not count on a player to "breakout" the next season. They know what they have and should accept it, or improve upon that player.. If a player does breakout it is a bonus. Hamonic was a great pick, really the only one Snow made. JT was a layup and guys like Martin are good picks but a 3rd line guy does not make a or break a bottom 5 team.He has been unable to draft top talent or bring in top end talent other than JT. Nino is a huge ?? at this point he looks like dog poo. We will see with Strome
I actually agree with this completely, and its rare that I agree with you. Snow's first round record is astonishingly bad (don't count JT, a monkey could've made that pick). But while we're still waiting for our 1st rounder to hit their potential/find there game/contribute in any way in the NHL, other teams have drafted legitimate All-Stars after us. Thats kinda the reality.
I will say however, that Snow et als later round draftees are pretty damn impressive. Martin, Hamonic, Donovan, etc. Pretty good list and it keeps getting better. Very fortunate for Snow as it obscures the lack of quality first rounders.
We heard the same thing with Bailey last year going into this year. The guy is a 3rd line player. A good team does not count on a player to "breakout" the next season. They know what they have and should accept it, or improve upon that player.. If a player does breakout it is a bonus. Hamonic was a great pick, really the only one Snow made. JT was a layup and guys like Martin are good picks but a 3rd line guy does not make a or break a bottom 5 team.He has been unable to draft top talent or bring in top end talent other than JT. Nino is a huge ?? at this point he looks like dog poo. We will see with Strome
The Isles don't put their top picks in a good position to succeed. Why would you put Nino on the 4th line to play with Pandolfo and Reasoner/Wallace. It just doesn't make any sense, I would like to see him play with some talented players and show his offensive skill. He's not going to get a lot of opportunities playing on the fourth line. It seems like he's trying to do too much out there, out of position and chasing the puck too much.
Anyone here think the Isles should atleast explore what kind of return Streit would have on this market? Seems like the price of dmen has just risen with Gill deal
Anyone here think the Isles should atleast explore what kind of return Streit would have on this market? Seems like the price of dmen has just risen with Gill deal
You should always listen, but unless it is a massive overpayment involving a young player with elite potential, I wouldn't be interested. I want to make the playoffs next year, and there is no way we are adding 2 top-4 dmen in free agency (Streit + the one we already need).
Anyone here think the Isles should atleast explore what kind of return Streit would have on this market? Seems like the price of dmen has just risen with Gill deal
(and yes, Hamonic was a great pick)
Bailey might never be more than Brad Lauer, unfortunately. My bet is he needs a solid coach that suits his needs and a buddy coach like Cappy, who I think has done alright with the drek Snow gave him in terms of vets, doesn't work. Nolan would have. Hitchcock would have been perfect.
ha, didn't mean to come off as a dick, just not a big fan of people downplaying the Hamonic pick. Who by the way wasn't even Garth's pick, I remember reading that Hamonic was Cairns guy.
Really? I would definitely call him a GREAT pick. He's been the best defenseman the last 2 years and he's only going to get better. For a 21 year old to be the best defenseman on the team and the second most important player on the team, I don't know how thats not a great pick.
It is not hard to stand out on a ban team IMO. I like the kid and think he will be real solid. I just do not think i would ever call him a great pick. He was without a Doubt a real nice pick.
Bailey is starting to figure it out, he will be pretty good starting next year, Hamonic wasn't a great pick? **** out of here with that ********. Also Okposo was taken by Neil Smith.
Yea you are right about KO he was under smith.
I see great picks for guys like Henrik Lundquist guys that were found late in drafts that are now Superstars.
Hamonic may very well become a superstar. However right now i would call hima good pick. He is young and has a ton of potential
Yea you are right about KO he was under smith.
I see great picks for guys like Henrik Lundquist guys that were found late in drafts that are now Superstars.
Hamonic may very well become a superstar. However right now i would call hima good pick. He is young and has a ton of potential
Sorry for overreacting. Anyway you just made my point for me on what makes him a great pick, he was taken late in the 2nd round when I believe he was looked at as a late 3rd/early 4th round pick, and is already a top 4 defense-men with big potential to grow even more into a legit #1 sometime in the next 2 or 3 years.
It is not hard to stand out on a ban team IMO. I like the kid and think he will be real solid. I just do not think i would ever call him a great pick. He was without a Doubt a real nice pick.
I disagree.....like you said hes playing on a bad team, so you would think he would have a bad plus/minus, but he doesnt. Hes a plus 4 this year and a plus 4 last year. Take a look at the rest of the defenseman, macdonald -1, reese -2, mottau -9, eaton -9, staios -14, streit -21, and jurcinia -22. Hamonic is def a great pick because second round defenseman dont usually turn out to be stud players and they take a long time to develop. Hes also playing against the other teams best line and pretty much shutting them down. For a 21 year old to shut down the other teams top line is very impressive. His plus/minus would actually be better if the second line could score some goals.
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What pick has snow made during his time as gm. that was considered great. Other then JT
JT was a gimme.
Hardly any GM gets a guy outside of the top three who is GREAT.
But if we wanna ask ourselves how many guys we've gotten who look to be of higher value than they're draft round rank traditionally indicates they should be, then the Isles have pretty much been in the top 15% in the NHL since 2008.
Hands down, in fact...
And we won't know if any late rounders will become stars á la Lundqvist for quite some time. Heck, it's not like he came over at the age of 22 and just started being great.
Anyone here think the Isles should atleast explore what kind of return Streit would have on this market? Seems like the price of dmen has just risen with Gill deal
Hamonic while he is a solid player a good pick. I would not call it a GREAT pick. He was a solid Second round pick. Not a great pick IMO.
He is also young still. He could turn out to be a great pick. Right now i would just call it a good pick.
I mean Josh Baily is not looking to good. A guy who is a top 10 pick should have been better. Same Goes Okposo.
If Hamonic was not a great pick, then please tell me who you would've preferred Snow taken at that spot.
Because at this point, it is my opinion that Hamonic was the best choice. And if something is the best, I am pretty comfortable with calling it great. If you feel differently, I am very curious what your definition of a great pick would be?
Isles need to trade for a top 4 dman. Even if they want to be sellers, they ned one now. They need to get Jurcina out, hopefully we can get a 6th round pick or so for him.
Id also love to add a veteran top 6 forqard, soemone who wouldnt be impossible to acquire, someone who wouldnt cost too much. I think someone liek David Jones would be a great pickup. He's 27, is havign an off year this year but can put the puck in the net and he's a gritty player too. Scored 27 goals in 77 games last year, only has 12 in 48 this year, but with a center like Nielsen or Bailey he'd be a great fit and could really score a lot.
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