My wish list starts and ends with Hamilton (Boston's pick last draft). I would have preferred him over Strome and still do. Would Boston be interested? If they needed a goaltender I might think there was a 1% chance of this.
My wish list starts and ends with Hamilton (Boston's pick last draft). I would have preferred him over Strome and still do. Would Boston be interested? If they needed a goaltender I might think there was a 1% chance of this.
Boston would be off their rocker to get rid of Hamilton. I was right there with you on Hamilton last year. I was hoping Garth finished his sentence with Hamilton's name at the podium. Anyway, it would probably take miracle to get him in an Isles uniform.
I'd love PAP in Nashville, but not sure what you guys need. D prospects (Ellis and Josi aren't prospects, we need them for our playoff run, but Blum is fine), Lindback, picks, and any forward prospect not on our roster are all in play, just not sure what you want back.
I'd love PAP in Nashville, but not sure what you guys need. D prospects (Ellis and Josi aren't prospects, we need them for our playoff run, but Blum is fine), Lindback, picks, and any forward prospect not on our roster are all in play, just not sure what you want back.
Jonathon Blum has definitely been discussed. I personally would love to get him in any Parenteau deal.
What's the exact scoop on Blum in the eyes of a Preds fan?
Jonathon Blum has definitely been discussed. I personally would love to get him in any Parenteau deal.
What's the exact scoop on Blum in the eyes of a Preds fan?
We're all very, very confused right now. Blum got called up last year and was easily our 3rd best defenseman (which is pretty impressive, considering Weber and Suter are our top 2). He even outplayed Suter some nights. He looked like an absolute stud in the making through the playoffs last year. Then, he came in the first game this year, and just flat out sucked. Huge sophomore slump. We sent him down to the AHL to get his game back, and he's doing horrific down there too. Somehow, he went from one of our top NHL players to an awful AHL player.
He has tons of potential, its just a matter of playing up to it. I think in 3 years he will be a top 4 D man that is an elite guy on the PP, but we dont need him with Suter, Weber, Josi, Ellis, Klein, Gill, Ekholm, etc, so we can trade him for scoring help (PAP)
We're all very, very confused right now. Blum got called up last year and was easily our 3rd best defenseman (which is pretty impressive, considering Weber and Suter are our top 2). He even outplayed Suter some nights. He looked like an absolute stud in the making through the playoffs last year. Then, he came in the first game this year, and just flat out sucked. Huge sophomore slump. We sent him down to the AHL to get his game back, and he's doing horrific down there too. Somehow, he went from one of our top NHL players to an awful AHL player.
He has tons of potential, its just a matter of playing up to it. I think in 3 years he will be a top 4 D man that is an elite guy on the PP, but we dont need him with Suter, Weber, Josi, Ellis, Klein, Gill, Ekholm, etc, so we can trade him for scoring help (PAP)
Thanks for the insight, it is puzzling why Blum is trending downward. Could it be he needs a change of scenery? His value is probably at a low point, young defenseman do take time to develop. We've been burned with Wishart, but Blum looks like he's got major upside. I can see Parenteau being a big help on the Preds PP, that could be a tide changer in the playoffs.
Sign me up. I don't know all the value stuff, but Parenteau for Blum straight up. Fax it in the offices and hope Snow is not looking and signs it.
Thanks for the insight, it is puzzling why Blum is trending downward. Could it be he needs a change of scenery? His value is probably at a low point, young defenseman do take time to develop. We've been burned with Wishart, but Blum looks like he's got major upside. I can see Parenteau being a big help on the Preds PP, that could be a tide changer in the playoffs.
Sign me up. I don't know all the value stuff, but Parenteau for Blum straight up. Fax it in the offices and hope Snow is not looking and signs it.
I'd do it, but I'm not sure other Preds fans would. I suggested him on our boards, and was shot down pretty mercilessly. What do you all think of PAP?
I'd do it, but I'm not sure other Preds fans would. I suggested him on our boards, and was shot down pretty mercilessly. What do you all think of PAP?
Paps is a good player. He's been much maligned on here, but we all agree that he's improved significantly from last year. The common thought around the league is that he is a product of Tavares, but that's not fair to him. Obviously JT will help anyone look better, but PA has been one of our best and consistent players all year. He was one of our whipping boys last year, he's converted many to believing in him this year. There is a large contingent that wants him re-signed. I am one of them, but I think he's kind of priced himself off the Island.
You can't fault the guy for maximizing his one chance to land that fat contract. I can see him staying the rest of the season, but if he wants to stay here next year then he's gotta give the team a serious hometown discount. That's pretty doubtful.
Paps is a good player. He's been much maligned on here, but we all agree that he's improved significantly from last year. The common thought around the league is that he is a product of Tavares, but that's not fair to him. Obviously JT will help anyone look better, but PA has been one of our best and consistent players all year. He was one of our whipping boys last year, he's converted many to believing in him this year. There is a large contingent that wants him re-signed. I am one of them, but I think he's kind of priced himself off the Island.
You can't fault the guy for maximizing his one chance to land that fat contract. I can see him staying the rest of the season, but if he wants to stay here next year then he's gotta give the team a serious hometown discount. That's pretty doubtful.
Alright. Some guys over there gave him the "not as good as his stats" stigma, just wasnt sure if that was fair or not.
Alright. Some guys over there gave him the "not as good as his stats" stigma, just wasnt sure if that was fair or not.
Completely unfair IMO. The ignorance of basically everyone outside of LI has been really annoying. For those of us that watch every game, Parenteau has developed into a legit NHLer. Tavares may be so great that he can turn dung into diamonds, but Parenteau has been a diamond in the rough so to speak. He's a good playmaker that hustles. He is good on the PP when he has extra time and space. He competes and seems like a good teammate, the guys seem to love him. He can help the Predators or any team for that matter.
Completely unfair IMO. The ignorance of basically everyone outside of LI has been really annoying. For those of us that watch every game, Parenteau has developed into a legit NHLer. Tavares may be so great that he can turn dung into diamonds, but Parenteau has been a diamond in the rough so to speak. He's a good playmaker that hustles. He is good on the PP when he has extra time and space. He competes and seems like a good teammate, the guys seem to love him. He can help the Predators or any team for that matter.
That's what I thought too, i was just relaying their concerns. If Parise/Carter/Roy aren't options for us, I think PAP could really help out.
We're all very, very confused right now. Blum got called up last year and was easily our 3rd best defenseman (which is pretty impressive, considering Weber and Suter are our top 2). He even outplayed Suter some nights. He looked like an absolute stud in the making through the playoffs last year. Then, he came in the first game this year, and just flat out sucked. Huge sophomore slump. We sent him down to the AHL to get his game back, and he's doing horrific down there too. Somehow, he went from one of our top NHL players to an awful AHL player.
He has tons of potential, its just a matter of playing up to it. I think in 3 years he will be a top 4 D man that is an elite guy on the PP, but we dont need him with Suter, Weber, Josi, Ellis, Klein, Gill, Ekholm, etc, so we can trade him for scoring help (PAP)
thank you for the information. i have been wondering for quite some time exactly what was up with him this year. he is, indeed, a very confusing player at this point in time.
I'd love PAP in Nashville, but not sure what you guys need. D prospects (Ellis and Josi aren't prospects, we need them for our playoff run, but Blum is fine), Lindback, picks, and any forward prospect not on our roster are all in play, just not sure what you want back.
I was thinking about this as well.
He could really fit there. Wouldn't be surprised if Vancouver and Pittsburgh are thinking the same thing though.
We don't even have to discuss his contract... Just peanuts for the rest of this season.
Blum has been discussed and should be a topic. Still, Snow is going to be smart enough to pit teams' deals together so I really see nothing short of a kid like Blum AND a pick coming in return.
Question is, what round will that pick be???
Also, are the other teams willing to shuffle off a more promising pick (so to speak)?
I really gotta say though, I don't know if there is a guy on the market right now that has his hands, tenacity, work ethic, hustle and - very important - confidence. He's really been going on all cylinders for quite a while now and has been pretty doggone consistant this year.
He's gonna get a good payday this summer, but he really could help a strong playoff team now, especially one that is already quite solid on the defensive front.
I'd love PAP in Nashville, but not sure what you guys need. D prospects (Ellis and Josi aren't prospects, we need them for our playoff run, but Blum is fine), Lindback, picks, and any forward prospect not on our roster are all in play, just not sure what you want back.
Why should Isles give up a very good forward in PAP for a big "Question Mark"? Even when good scorers are hard to get at the deadline, and it seems Blum lost all his game. Maybe some other teams have something better to offer.
If Hamonic was not a great pick, then please tell me who you would've preferred Snow taken at that spot.
Because at this point, it is my opinion that Hamonic was the best choice. And if something is the best, I am pretty comfortable with calling it great. If you feel differently, I am very curious what your definition of a great pick would be?
Way to many Variables. I would say a player who Dominates at his position perhaps. I think he was a Very solid pick. However at this point i would not call him Great.
Way to many Variables. I would say a player who Dominates at his position perhaps. I think he was a Very solid pick. However at this point i would not call him Great.
He doesnt need to be "Great" to be a "Great" pick... a seventh round pick who makes the NHL is a "Great" pick... a 2nd round pick with top-4 potential who is one of the rising young NHL defensemen is a "Great" pick at that slot because if you redo that draft at this point hed easily be a high-mid first round pick, so we got great value for him there
Way to many Variables. I would say a player who Dominates at his position perhaps. I think he was a Very solid pick. However at this point i would not call him Great.
You can look at the list I posted a couple pages back of players drafted after Hamonic in 2008 that have played more than 60 NHL games.
Zack Smith
Dale Weise
Brandon McMillan
Matt Martin
Jared Spurgeon
Jason Demers
Most notable player that hasn't played 60 games is probably Adam Henrique.
I don't know who you'd rather Snow have taken with this pick. Hamonic was a great pick. You don't have to think he's a great player yet, he was a great PICK.
Why should Isles give up a very good forward in PAP for a big "Question Mark"? Even when good scorers are hard to get at the deadline, and it seems Blum lost all his game. Maybe some other teams have something better to offer.
Why should Isles give up a very good forward in PAP for a big "Question Mark"? Even when good scorers are hard to get at the deadline, and it seems Blum lost all his game. Maybe some other teams have something better to offer.
We take what we get. PA isnt resigning here apparently.
He doesnt need to be "Great" to be a "Great" pick... a seventh round pick who makes the NHL is a "Great" pick... a 2nd round pick with top-4 potential who is one of the rising young NHL defensemen is a "Great" pick at that slot because if you redo that draft at this point hed easily be a high-mid first round pick, so we got great value for him there
I did not see he is a Bad Value i just sad he is not a great pick in y Eyes.
You can look at the list I posted a couple pages back of players drafted after Hamonic in 2008 that have played more than 60 NHL games.
Zack Smith
Dale Weise
Brandon McMillan
Matt Martin
Jared Spurgeon
Jason Demers
Most notable player that hasn't played 60 games is probably Adam Henrique.
I don't know who you'd rather Snow have taken with this pick. Hamonic was a great pick. You don't have to think he's a great player yet, he was a great PICK.
Those players have nothing to do with how i would Decide if he was a great pick. If Hamonic was a 4th rounder or a late 3rd rounder i would call him a great pick.
I did not see he is a Bad Value i just sad he is not a great pick in y Eyes.
You can have your opinion i suppose... but who else that would have reasonably been slotted around that position at the time of the draft would have been a great pick at that slot then, if not Hamonic?
Also, fwiw, Hamonic would not have been available in the 3rd or 4th round... I'd argue even if someone took him in the late first, early second round he'd be a great pick
