On the 'D'-Fence: Ryan Whitney back on the ice Tuesday, 02.07.2012 / 1:44 PM / Fantasy Hockey Rankings and Advice
By Brian Metzer - NHL.com Correspondent
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If you are need of a defenseman there is a pretty good chance Whitney is available, as he is currently owned in just 42 percent of Yahoo! Standard leagues. Though owning him could be a bit frustrating if he were to go out with another setback, picking him up is also a decision that could pay off royally. The Oilers are averaging 4.2 goals per game over their last five and Whitney will get most of the opportunities to play on the power play and with the top forward combinations. Grabbing this talented blueliner is a chance worth taking.
Steve, thanks for the post. We have a trade/wishlist thread going on. There's been an awful lot of threads like this lately, so we're trying to keep it all in 1 place. I'm going to move it over to the proper thread now.
I can't imagine why this guy would be put on waivers, but if he's available, I'd hope the Isles claim him. They need size on the backend in the absolute worst way.
edit: oh jeez, this is fantasy talk. LOL, of course Whitney wouldn't be available in the real world. ok whatever, just let it die folks.
Ziggy7716, I don't think Detroit needs Nabokov but that would be my price for Nabokov if a team wants him, too good of a goalie and too good of a contract to get a 'Ty Wishart' back.
I'm not big on Sam Gagner though. Just not. But I do like the Nielsen for Murray trade. I want Nielsen to stay but in that scenario you have to take it since Murray is a great dman to have and is signed on.
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Originally Posted by Streit Power
I got two trades I want to see happen:
1: Nabokov for Detroit's first pick
2: Isles first pick + Grabner for Ryan Suter
Yeah, neither of those teams do that and Isles don't do that second one.
Aside from the money because they're going to get paid, we need just that one premium UFA to take that leap of faith and sign with us. That one special individual who wants to rise to the challenge for something greater than the money or the fame - to be a MAN in the most romantic sense of the word. The guy who wants to be remembered for having the cajones to have stepped up to change a franchise.
Let's take Parise for example. The boy who should have been an Islander all along, the man who could 'come home' to the Islanders and make history. All of a sudden, Ryan Suter's decision to take the offer from the Isles doesn't seem far-fetched. BAM, he signs with us. All of a sudden, someone like Wideman or Jackman decides he wants to get in on 'something special' brewing on Long Island also.
It takes that one special individual to choose to want us. Deep down inside, we all ache for him. The guy who can end the suffering. We all love JT because he wants to be here and be that guy, 'the one'. Remember though, he was drafted by us and so he didn't have a choice. He obviously sacked up big time hence the almost inappropriate man love he gets from so many of us. Parise could reach that level with his signature on an Isles contract.
Now back to reality. The possibility of that happening is pretty remote. I wonder how Snow is going to get this team to the cap floor for next season. We have no much salary coming off the books.
"Rookie sensation Michael Grabner, who led the Islanders with 34 goals after being claimed off waivers, is staying with New York after agreeing to a US$15 million, five-year deal that keeps him away from free agency." tsn.ca http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=365568
3 million is not bad for a 30+ goal scorer but he has really struggled this year. I was hoping he spent all off-season on finishing but doesn't look that way.
Both Grabner and Okposo signed 5 yr deals,that are backloaded.
Yes,the cap hit averages out to $3m ,but the actual salary paid for each is $1m.
They don't start making big bucks until yrs 4 and 5.
I would LOVE Nash next to Tavares... The problem is I'd rather use the pieces we'd need to give up to get Nash to get a top-4 D-man... But for kicks and giggles
To Blue Jackets- Isles 2012 1st
Isles 2013 1st
Niederreiter
Kabanov
for Nash... too much/little?
I figure if we can get Nash and then make a push for the playoffs we'd have a better chance at attracting a Suter in FA
I would LOVE Nash next to Tavares... The problem is I'd rather use the pieces we'd need to give up to get Nash to get a top-4 D-man... But for kicks and giggles
To Blue Jackets- Isles 2012 1st
Isles 2013 1st
Niederreiter
Kabanov
for Nash... too much/little?
I figure if we can get Nash and then make a push for the playoffs we'd have a better chance at attracting a Suter in FA
I think we've discussed Nash plenty around these parts. I cannot think of any other winger that is realistically available that would pair better with JT. Nash could score 50 with JT feeding him.
If you use the expected return for a star player then it would take a package of Moulson/Okposo, Nino/Strome, and our 1st. Another piece may also need to be added. If I were Columbus, I'd want Moulson, Nino, the 1st rounder and some mid-tier guy like Ness. Moulson would be the immediate replacement for Nash, Nino and Johansen would be reunited, and they could get a probable stud defense prospect from the draft. So the question is, is it worth it? That's the $64,000 question.
I think we've discussed Nash plenty around these parts. I cannot think of any other winger that is realistically available that would pair better with JT. Nash could score 50 with JT feeding him.
If you use the expected return for a star player then it would take a package of Moulson/Okposo, Nino/Strome, and our 1st. Another piece may also need to be added. If I were Columbus, I'd want Moulson, Nino, the 1st rounder and some mid-tier guy like Ness. Moulson would be the immediate replacement for Nash, Nino and Johansen would be reunited, and they could get a probable stud defense prospect from the draft. So the question is, is it worth it? That's the $64,000 question.
Considering that Moulson has more points than Nash and is signed to a great contract I'd say that it is not worth it.
I would do DiPietro, Niederreiter,Wishart, 2012 1st.
I think we've discussed Nash plenty around these parts. I cannot think of any other winger that is realistically available that would pair better with JT. Nash could score 50 with JT feeding him.
If you use the expected return for a star player then it would take a package of Moulson/Okposo, Nino/Strome, and our 1st. Another piece may also need to be added. If I were Columbus, I'd want Moulson, Nino, the 1st rounder and some mid-tier guy like Ness. Moulson would be the immediate replacement for Nash, Nino and Johansen would be reunited, and they could get a probable stud defense prospect from the draft. So the question is, is it worth it? That's the $64,000 question.
I think if we make the deal and subsequently make the playoffs it pays off big time in the offseason... it would put us as a team really on the rise IMO... maybe make us an attractive landing spot for the likes of Parise and/or Suter...
Parise-Tavares-Nash
might be the best line in hockey... not that it would ever happen... but a man can dream
I would LOVE Nash next to Tavares... The problem is I'd rather use the pieces we'd need to give up to get Nash to get a top-4 D-man... But for kicks and giggles
To Blue Jackets- Isles 2012 1st
Isles 2013 1st
Niederreiter
Kabanov
for Nash... too much/little?
I figure if we can get Nash and then make a push for the playoffs we'd have a better chance at attracting a Suter in FA
I would do DiPietro, Niederreiter,Wishart, 2012 1st.
Taking the "wishlist" part of this thread just a little too far
Hopefully you were kidding, but one could probably offer up DiPietro, Hamonic, Nino, and Strome for "future considerations" and still not get anyone to take that albatross.
I think if we make the deal and subsequently make the playoffs it pays off big time in the offseason... it would put us as a team really on the rise IMO... maybe make us an attractive landing spot for the likes of Parise and/or Suter...
Parise-Tavares-Nash
might be the best line in hockey... not that it would ever happen... but a man can dream
Listen, I feel you. Would I do it? You bet 'yer britches. It would definitely hurt to give up a package like that, but the possible impact Nash could have on the Isles could be franchise changing. Parise, Suter, Jackman. We've all thought it. We probably have the cap space to add all of them. We'd be scary next year. It's a beautiful, beautiful dream. I have it so often, it almost seems real.
Taking the "wishlist" part of this thread just a little too far
Hopefully you were kidding, but one could probably offer up DiPietro, Hamonic, Nino, and Strome for "future considerations" and still not get anyone to take that albatross.
I'm afraid Josh Bailey trade value is diminishing, he has a lot of potential, but I feel he needs a fresh start. He is not a fit on the Island, and could be more than just a third-liner. Might as well get something for him now and part ways.
(Montreal has trouble everywhere but goaltending, they might be stingy on a rookie D.)
At this point we are both losing teams in the East, Montreal is on the verge of a complete rebuild; so this third will be more helpful for them long-term.
If we need a third we can always trade for another.
We also need defenceman, as rushing rookies is not the way.
Diaz looks promising, and is far from being rushed. He looks like he could be an upgrade compared to Jurcina, Eaton, Mottau and Staios.
If he doesn't turn out well. So be it, at least we tried moving Bailey when he had value.
We already own their 5th round rick (from the Wisniewski trade) and the Ducks aren't doing so well this year so it'll another higher pick. I trust Snows drafting from after players like Casey Cizikas, Kirill Kabanov (steal), Anders Lee, Brenden Kichton.
Sure it's too early to tell if they completely develop so far. But as of now it looks like Snow can find a few hidden gems out there. When drafting late it's best to draft with a overload of picks. (Detroit isn't always successful btw, they just stock up.)
While the value isn't far off, I assume Habs wouldn't do that.
Diaz has more points than Bailey so far and they don't need centers that much. Plekanec, Eller, Desharnais and Leblanc are all natural centers, so where would Bailey fit?
A couple months ago I'd be willing to part ways with Bailey, but right now I see a young player creating a valuable niche on this team. He's finally growing into his skin, though no fault of his own for being rushed.
I keep this kid. The type of evolution and progress we've seen from him is what the rebuild is all about. We start wheeling and dealing every kid that shows improved value and we'll end up with another Milbury-esque team.
At this point I'd rather trade draft picks and/or prospects.
Or, ship Nabby and a prospect to Chicago (who badly needs goaltending) for Seabrook. I'd dangle that carrot before Bailey.
