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02-15-2012, 11:12 AM
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While I don't think Cater would be the best solution, he may be worth a shot if you can get Tyutin along in the deal. I know CBJ need D, but they can get that in the Nash deal.

Bailey, Nino and a 3rd for Carter and Tyutin. Both players are signed long term, so they are for now and the future. Upgrades both offense and defense and gives the team a better shot at the playoffs this season and many more.

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02-15-2012, 11:26 AM
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While I don't think Cater would be the best solution, he may be worth a shot if you can get Tyutin along in the deal. I know CBJ need D, but they can get that in the Nash deal.

Bailey, Nino and a 3rd for Carter and Tyutin. Both players are signed long term, so they are for now and the future. Upgrades both offense and defense and gives the team a better shot at the playoffs this season and many more.

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Ulstrom-Nielsen-Grabner
Rolston-Reasoner-Pandolfo

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Nabby-Montoya
I think you are way underestimating the cost.

CBJ can't just give Carter away after giving up so much for him over the summer. And Tyutin is probably their best dman.

I doubt we could get Tyutin for Bailey and a 3rd.
And we couldn't get Carter for Nino.

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02-15-2012, 11:43 AM
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While I don't think Cater would be the best solution, he may be worth a shot if you can get Tyutin along in the deal. I know CBJ need D, but they can get that in the Nash deal.

Bailey, Nino and a 3rd for Carter and Tyutin. Both players are signed long term, so they are for now and the future. Upgrades both offense and defense and gives the team a better shot at the playoffs this season and many more.

Moulson-Tavares-Okposo
PAP-Carter-Martin
Ulstrom-Nielsen-Grabner
Rolston-Reasoner-Pandolfo

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Jurcina-Eaton/Staios

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The Columbus beatwriter gave a recent interview.It should be posted on the Columbus board.

He says Carter is fine if asked to be the 5th scoring option on a team ,but does not do well when asked to do more.Botta pointed out before the Columbus/Philly trade that Carter could be pouty and asked if he was a good chioce for a young lockerroom like the isles.

I could see Carter dealt to a big market team like LA and getting his game back on track.He'd have Kopitar,Richards and Brown to take the pressure off.

Would he do as well on LI. At $5m+ per season,he'd be the nyi higest paid player and I think there would be more expectations for him to earn that big salary.


I'd love to see Snow land Tytunin.Columbus' defense is pretty bad though.I doubt they move him.Like
the isles ,they should be looking to add top 4 talent,not trade it away.

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02-15-2012, 01:11 PM
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In the Trade board Quincey and Jones for Grabner and 4/5th. Id be hesitant to give up grabner.

Quincey 26yr. 6'2" 207lbs. TWD RFA
51gp 5g-18a-23pt -1 averages 21min a night
Fills that top 4 spot very nicely that we have been looking for

David Jones 27yr. 6'2" 210lbs. LW/RW UFA
47gp 12g-10a-22pt -5

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Jones, had 27g 45 pts last year. This year, Sacco can't seem to figure out what line to put him on, so he's struggling. The last few games on Stastny's line, he's shown what he can do if given the chance.

He's big (6'2", 210 lbs) but is much more comfortable playing a skill game than the physical game. He's been somewhat injury prone so far (random injuries, nothing chronic) with last year being his first full season after two injury shortened seasons (shoulder and knee).
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I've always seen Jones as a quiet guy. Someone who goes about his business without raising a fuss. He's best paired with a guy who is good at cycling the puck and can create plays from the half-boards and lower.


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In the Trade board Quincey and Jones for Grabner and 4/5th. Id be hesitant to give up grabner.

Quincey 26yr. 6'2" 207lbs. TWD RFA
51gp 5g-18a-23pt -1 averages 21min a night
Fills that top 4 spot very nicely that we have been looking for

David Jones 27yr. 6'2" 210lbs. LW/RW UFA
47gp 12g-10a-22pt -5
With today's news that Parenteau has decided to test the ufa maret,I think he will be Snow's big trade chip.The player used as the key to landing a top 4 d-man.

Maybe Murray from the Sharks.He's signed for 1 more yr after this one.SJ is reportedly looking for scoring.Parenteau will be cheaper to acquire then Nash or Carter.The Oilers are supposedly trying to re-sign Hemsky.Not a lot available on the trade deadline market.

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Snow better start shopping Parenteau and see what he can get. With players that were thought to be available falling by the wayside, PA's value is just going up and up every day. It's funny, but he's suddenly one of the premier UFA-to-be forwards on the market. That's crazy to me, but it is the truth.

It's no secret we need a top 4 defenseman, Parenteau is probably the only way we'll get one without sacrificing the youth that so many are hesitant to part with.

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Snow better start shopping Parenteau and see what he can get. With players that were thought to be available falling by the wayside, PA's value is just going up and up every day. It's funny, but he's suddenly one of the premier UFA-to-be forwards on the market. That's crazy to me, but it is the truth.

It's no secret we need a top 4 defenseman, Parenteau is probably the only way we'll get one without sacrificing the youth that so many are hesitant to part with.
That's what I am thinking. The question is, what playoff bound club coughs up a top four defenseman now for a guy who still wants to test free agency? If the Isles get a good offer contingent on him signing with the other club maybe that could happen (or sign and trade.)

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02-15-2012, 03:55 PM
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NHL ready D prospect for PAP might be the way to go.

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voynov for pa and a 2nd?

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http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story...e-patrick-kane

Obviously just JR's opinion and probably doesn't hold any weight but hey, I've always been a huge fan of Kane. For pipe dream purposes....

To Chicago:
Michael Grabner
Evgeni Nabakov / Anders Nilsson
Calvin De Haan
2012 2nd round pick

To NYI:
Patrick Kane



Yeaaaah, probably not enough. Probably not even close but Moulson- Tavares- Kane would be worth price of admission on any given night.

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02-15-2012, 06:13 PM
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In the Trade board Quincey and Jones for Grabner and 4/5th. Id be hesitant to give up grabner.

Quincey 26yr. 6'2" 207lbs. TWD RFA
51gp 5g-18a-23pt -1 averages 21min a night
Fills that top 4 spot very nicely that we have been looking for

David Jones 27yr. 6'2" 210lbs. LW/RW UFA
47gp 12g-10a-22pt -5
In a nanosecond!

Wouldn't hesitate for a minute.

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What do you guys think of this?


to NYI:
Quincey

To COl:
Rhett Rakhshani
3rd round pick


NYI get the Dman they need for the playoff push. He is also restricted after this year and need to reach the cap floor so they could sign him no problem.

COL gets a wing prospect who was a standout at the University of Denver who could play right now along with a third round pick in this years draft. Denver seems a bit weak as far as wing prospects are concerned so Rhett helps out with that

I would love to see this deal somehow happen....

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http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story...e-patrick-kane

Obviously just JR's opinion and probably doesn't hold any weight but hey, I've always been a huge fan of Kane. For pipe dream purposes....

To Chicago:
Michael Grabner
Evgeni Nabakov / Anders Nilsson
Calvin De Haan
2012 2nd round pick

To NYI:
Patrick Kane



Yeaaaah, probably not enough. Probably not even close but Moulson- Tavares- Kane would be worth price of admission on any given night.
Yeah you aren't getting Kane for that package ,, Not even close

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Nabakov to Chicago for Olsen

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Snow better start shopping Parenteau and see what he can get. With players that were thought to be available falling by the wayside, PA's value is just going up and up every day. It's funny, but he's suddenly one of the premier UFA-to-be forwards on the market. That's crazy to me, but it is the truth.

It's no secret we need a top 4 defenseman, Parenteau is probably the only way we'll get one without sacrificing the youth that so many are hesitant to part with.
I would rather keep PA. I don't think he gets us enough to be worth trading...probably a 2nd round pick. I would rather keep him and play out the season, try to make the playoffs, and try to re-sign him before July 1.

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Yeah you aren't getting Kane for that package ,, Not even close
well, if he really is in play for a goalie, and i were a hawks fan, i would want the player coming in return to be a young star just as he is. so would the habs deal price, the kings, quick? if i were the habs or the kings, i wouldn't pull that trigger, but i don't think they're crazy ideas. the problem with kane is that he seems to be a bit of a ***** (yes, this is in reference to the taxi cab incident). if kane had the reputation of a jonathan toews, his trade value would be even higher than it already is.

to make this about the islanders, kane can't be landed if the price is a young, star goalie. the isles have other pieces, like a grabner or an okposo, however. they likely don't whet the hawks appetite, however.

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Nabakov to Chicago for Olsen
we'd have to add something to that, at LEAST a second or another decent prospect if not both. at least, from what you hear hawks fans tout him as, i'd imagine so.

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we'd have to add something to that, at LEAST a second or another decent prospect if not both. at least, from what you hear hawks fans tout him as, i'd imagine so.
and those hawks fans can get a life. many people on internet forums don't recognize they need to give to get. the trading of nabokov means the isles are giving up on the playoffs. i wholeheartedly believe that. so, exactly what do the hawks have to offer, besides a kid like olsen (by that, i mean a kid ready or at least almost ready, to play in the nhl), that would even make snow contemplate the idea of giving up on the playoffs?

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No need to trade Parenteau or Nabokov, just play out the season with them and see If we can make the playoffs. I don't care about some picks or question mark prospects.

But lets see first how we do in the next few games before the deadline, 'cause If we play like Rolston's, then my opinion might change.

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You're not getting a star player for 36 year old UFA goalies and 3rd round picks.

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Yeah you aren't getting Kane for that package ,, Not even close
I dnt think that trade is that bad at all. Even if we switch okposo with grabs and put nillson there with nabby and get someone not that great from them. Your getting two great prospects, 2nd round a great goalie and okposo who I won't comment on

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Carter's commitment attributes to most of his failures in Columbus. Brassard or Vermette make better centers behind Tavares because they can defend as well as play offense.

Brassard will cost more because he is young and has a lot of offensive potential. The veteran Vermette can add much needed experience to the young roster.

I wouldn't mind having all three of Brassard, Vermette, and Tyutin. My fantasy trade would be Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Koskinen, Ullstrom, 2012 2nd for all three and maybe even Pahlsson or MacKenzie. I don't want to loose a 1st.

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It's not a big move, but I think it would make the defense better. Trade for Bryan Allen.

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I dnt think that trade is that bad at all. Even if we switch okposo with grabs and put nillson there with nabby and get someone not that great from them. Your getting two great prospects, 2nd round a great goalie and okposo who I won't comment on
The trade doesn't really make sense for the Hawks. Why would they trade a great young player who has proven himself for prospects, grabner and a goalie.

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McCabe retiring not that he was still a viable option at this point in the season

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