I don't believe he's as bad of a GM as many of you guys believe.
He dumped some contracts that needed dumping... (Staois Moreau Nilsson n company).
Got the AHL team where it needs to be.
Traded the right smurf, canned MacT, promoted Stu, and made Lombardi his bizzniatch.
He's been atrocious in some areas, but hes not been nearly at all bad as some of you posters make him out to be.
Exactly. Tambo has done quite a few things that amazed people at the time. But when the team loses in spite of those great moves, then after a while people forget about them or how important they were. Or that he isn't responsible for past poor moves, ie: the Horcoff contract.
There's only so much you can do when you begin your career as the GM of a crappy team. Not every team need can be magically traded for at the drop of a hat. But he has made some pretty stupendous moves in his tenure nonetheless.
What is 'right on pace' so that we can all know what to expect?
dead last,
dead last,
3rd from last,
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?
?
What should we expect for the next three years?
-Dead last... Hall
-Dead last... RNH
-10th/11th from last... Vasilevski I hope but likely the BPA dman that is left at that point (possibly Ceci or Pouliot)
-Stanley Cup
-Stanley Cup
-Stanley Cup
-Stanley Cup
-Stanley Cup
all you b--chers, but have any of noticed the team's breakout since Whitney and Barker (Tambo aquisitions) have returned? How has Sutton turned out? you B-tch, and whine but can't admit that some moves have worked. they are currently taking it to the best team in the conference. 7 of 8 points since they have gotten players back. just a fluke i guess.
the injuries where a huge factor.
It becomes more and more obvious the more the key injured players come back how our season might have gone if we had remained relatively uninjured. This is of course, all Tambo's fault!
A team finishes dead last two, and probably soon to be three years in a row, and the GM gets extended. Only in this city could such an unbelievable lack of accountability exist.
A team finishes dead last two, and probably soon to be three years in a row, and the GM gets extended. Only in this city could such an unbelievable lack of accountability exist.
How you figure this team is going to finish dead last is beyond me.
A team finishes dead last two, and probably soon to be three years in a row, and the GM gets extended. Only in this city could such an unbelievable lack of accountability exist.
This. And even having a massive amount of people defending him.
Considering he keeps saying "I have an playoff calibre team".
Sorry Steve NO you DON'T.
A team finishes dead last two, and probably soon to be three years in a row, and the GM gets extended. Only in this city could such an unbelievable lack of accountability exist.
Wait.... You think we'll probably end up dead last again? I guess you see a big winning streak coming for Columbus.
I'm not going to join the argument with any more than my own sentiments. Thank you for your patience Steve. I know you are a competitive man, and it must kill you to keep patient and not go for the homerun just because some fans are becoming restless. Stay the course. Be confident that the plan is working, because I for one have faith that the last three years are going to lead us down a path unlike the 15 years previous.
A team finishes dead last two, and probably soon to be three years in a row, and the GM gets extended. Only in this city could such an unbelievable lack of accountability exist.
have you been in Cabo the last 2 weeks? they've won 4 of 5, 9 points out of 10. they are 13 points ahead of 30th place and 4 points behind 23rd Tampa. they will finish anywhere for 29th to 23rd, but no chance of 30th. I'm gonna guess 26th or 25th.
If not for the injuries, they would easily be 8 points better (2 wins, 4 singles), which would put them in 10th place in the West, 3 back of 8th.
face it. you're just angry and want a head to roll.
-Dead last... Hall
-Dead last... RNH
-10th/11th from last... Vasilevski I hope but likely the BPA dman that is left at that point (possibly Ceci or Pouliot)
-Stanley Cup
-Stanley Cup
-Stanley Cup
-Stanley Cup
-Stanley Cup
If Tambo picks a goalie with our first rounder, I'd hand him his walking papers during the draft.
have you been in Cabo the last 2 weeks? they've won 4 of 5, 9 points out of 10. they are 13 points ahead of 30th place and 4 points behind 23rd Tampa. they will finish anywhere for 29th to 23rd, but no chance of 30th. I'm gonna guess 26th or 25th.
If not for the injuries, they would easily be 8 points better (2 wins, 4 singles), which would put them in 10th place in the West, 3 back of 8th.
face it. you're just angry and want a head to roll.
No doubt on this...People need to give their heads a shake. There's no way this team ends up in 30th place while healthy. The past 5 games, and how they started the season are clear indications of this.
No doubt on this...People need to give their heads a shake. There's no way this team ends up in 30th place while healthy. The past 5 games, and how they started the season are clear indications of this.
Plus the wins were against San Jose, Chicago, Detroit and Colorado and they got a point versus Vancouver on the road. Not exactly a bad stretch of results for a cellar dwelling team.
The team is streaky for sure (based on a raft of injuries/ some questionable coaching/lack of team chemistry and I think an overall lack of gelling together as a team so far)... but they've played decent hockey versus some very good teams and if you ask many GM's and coaches around the NHL I bet they'd say they sure don't appear to be a last place team.
But lets wait and see how it goes for the rest of the season.
He has a tendency to go on hot streaks and then he will disappear for twenty games.
Pretty much, obviously a streak like the one that he just had will probably never be repeated by him. If his confidence can stay high because of it, he has a shot to keep this rolling. That said it's not a sure thing that he won't revert back to the player that he was prior to the 11 points in 2 games insane stretch.
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Yeah I don't see it I see you realize he did something Gretzky never did as a Oiler in a 11 sraight goals like our arguments early in the season that his dad arrived in his 5th season Gagner allways had the talent he lacked the confidence, and yeah even the superstars in the League struggle and go into slumps but I think Gags is going to be a 60 -70 point player during his prime. And most of all he is a 2nd line center and still 22.
But through it all, through his 11 points in 2 games, it's not as if his stats are gaudy. So has he really arrived? Or is this just one of those things where a guy has an out of body experience and plays well above himself? I hope that he takes that next step, I've been waiting for it since his rookie year, but a stretch that far greater players have never achieved doesn't mean that all is great and that he is magically a different player. Confidence is huge for an offensive player however he had insanely high confidence as a rookie and that disappeared from him before, so let's wait and see what he does from here on out before declaring "mission accomplished".
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It becomes more and more obvious the more the key injured players come back how our season might have gone if we had remained relatively uninjured. This is of course, all Tambo's fault!
GM's or coaches rarely get single year exentions. If things don't improve in the next season, they'll both be gone in 1.5 years.
The haters are missing a couple of points:
1.) The minor league team has been rebuilt and is leading the league - it wasn't long ago that they were a laughing stock team
2.) The Oilers actually have a future and the players and fans are excited - people want to stay; it wasn't that long ago that everyone wanted out
3.) Injuries will have cost this team at least 8 points by the end of the season - add those to the finishing standings and tell me there isn't improvement from dead last
There's a lot of armchair GM's on this forum that don't have the patience to make a sandwich. They must be a mess in real life.
GM's or coaches rarely get single year exentions. If things don't improve in the next season, they'll both be gone in 1.5 years.
The haters are missing a couple of points:
1.) The minor league team has been rebuilt and is leading the league - it wasn't long ago that they were a laughing stock team
2.) The Oilers actually have a future and the players and fans are excited - people want to stay; it wasn't that long ago that everyone wanted out
3.) Injuries will have cost this team at least 8 points by the end of the season - add those to the finishing standings and tell me there isn't improvement from dead last
There's a lot of armchair GM's on this forum that don't have the patience to make a sandwich. They must be a mess in real life.
Have to agree.........on one condition...the team must be in the thick of a playoff hunt or make the playoffs next season..........in reality a one year contract for both!
It becomes more and more obvious the more the key injured players come back how our season might have gone if we had remained relatively uninjured. This is of course, all Tambo's fault!
Do you think a good GM goes into the season knowing that if there are any injuries he'll be icing an AHL team?
Do you think a good GM counts on players like Whitney & Hesmky & Khabibulin to play full seasons, given their injury history?
Every team suffers injuries, it's the nature of the game. Good GM's make sure they have accumulated some depth so that when the injury bug strikes, the team can at least keep their head above water until the injuries are healed.
If anything, seeing how the team can perform when everyone is healthy makes it even more frustrating that there were no steps taken to mitigate the damage when *surprise* we had some key players go down.
No doubt on this...People need to give their heads a shake. There's no way this team ends up in 30th place while healthy. The past 5 games, and how they started the season are clear indications of this.
But being completely healthy all year is a fantasy and you know it. Every team sustains injuries and when you have people on your team that are injury prone (Hemsky) and your best dman coming back from a severe injury and have no idea if/when he'll be healthy enough to get into form again, there are pre-existing problems that inevetibly will rear their ugly heads as the season goes on. The biggest problem this team has right now above all else is lack of depth. I've said it a million times on here. And that takes time, as they continue to build the farm system and develop talent. This doesn't happen overnight. But to say they are a good team without depth is a fools game in this league or any other.
