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Which enforcers have the highest trade value?

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10-21-2004, 11:18 PM
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Which enforcers have the highest trade value?

what would be the trade value for some of the more notable enforcers such as laraque, shelley, brashear etc.

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I dunno, not much, I guess Simon would have the highest since he can score as well.

I guess Futures or a really really really low pick or bottom end prospect is probably the price for most enforcers.

for the bigger name enforcers like Brash and Laraque, I dunno, I can't really guess.

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If Laraque comes out and plays every night like he's capable of, he could be worth something, but he has to show consistentcy...He just controls the boards some nights, making lots of space for his players....but other nights he floats...

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Wade Brooksbank? I mean come on he went from like 6 different teams! EVERYONE wants the guy!

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Wade Brooksbank? I mean come on he went from like 6 different teams! EVERYONE wants the guy!
except whatever team he is playing for.

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Young(ish) enforcer who can play a regular shift without being a defensive liability but has a mean streak and can really intimidate opponents.

Jody Shelley, Darcy Hordichuk, Cairns, Laraque...who knows. If Chris Simon was 5 years younger he would be easily the most valuable enforcer.

Laraque needs to be more physicall active, at the moment he's too much of a nice guy to intimidate anyone since everyone knows he won't go after you unless you do something stupid. Best enforcers make every opponent little more tense & timid when on the ice simply because opponents can never be quite certain what those tough guys are going to do.

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Not Aaron Downey. That guy is just simply awful. Saw him play in an OSHL game last night. Brutal. Both teams were made up of mostly enforcers who just play shinny and show their actual hockey skills. Downey = no skills at all with Darcy Hordichuk a close 2nd!

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I'd say Chris Simon with Brashear a close second. Laraque would probably be valuable if he would actually fight sometimes. Georges tends to think he's a decent hockey player sometimes and that is not a good thing when you're a pure goon.

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except whatever team he is playing for.
Nashville fans would disagree. We'd love to have him back.

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I'd say Chris Simon with Brashear a close second. Laraque would probably be valuable if he would actually fight sometimes. Georges tends to think he's a decent hockey player sometimes and that is not a good thing when you're a pure goon.
whats the deal with brashear, i had heard he might be on his way out of philly due to depth and possible conflicts within the team?

i have also heard he is a bit of an a-s-shole, but one of the best enforcers in recent memory.

i could see him winding up on detriot one day.

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I'd say Chris Simon with Brashear a close second. Laraque would probably be valuable if he would actually fight sometimes. Georges tends to think he's a decent hockey player sometimes and that is not a good thing when you're a pure goon.
Funny because I see Simon also wanting to play too much hockey and not be a pure goon, Laraque just has more dimentions to his game, Brashear sometimes stands in front of the net, all 3 are good.

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Funny because I see Simon also wanting to play too much hockey and not be a pure goon, Laraque just has more dimentions to his game, Brashear sometimes stands in front of the net, all 3 are good.
And that's because Simon actually has the skill to play on the top two lines. He doesn't need to fight to have a role or place in the NHL. Guys like Laraque and Brashear do not have that same skill level as a Simon.

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Garfield was saying that Laraque wasn't a pure goon so he prefered Simon, just pointed out that Simon is far from being a pure goon himself. Have fun sucking in a few years, I'll be happier without your bias.

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Domi- Very little trade value. He's certainly very skilled for an enforcer, and has solid leadership skills but his contract alone will ensure few teams would have much interest. 2M+ for an enforcer no matter how skilled is a luxury few can afford. His age, in that he's nearing retirement doesn't make him especially desireable either exept as a deadline rent-a-player. Good as a treade deadline acquisition but otherwise completely uninteresting for any teams.

Perrott-Not much value. A fringe NHL'er skill wise so he's far from anything special there. A good fighter but so are many enforcers. He's relatively young but that and his excellent work ethic are about all the benefits. Similar players can be had on waivers at times. Virtually no trade value.

Belak-Above average trade value for an enforcer. Skill is typical enough for an enforcer. A #7 D-Man/13'th forward. Still, he's young and damn imposing relative to other enforcers. Always works hard. He has a hell of a powerful shot, which is of a little value albeit not much. His biggest benefit is sheer flexibility in that he can play almost any position and so can fill in wherever needed whenever he's needed.
Still very little value relatively speaking, but a bit more then the average enforcer while far far beyond the best of them.

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McKenna. He can fight, score, and tell jokes. Who else provides that total package?

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And that's because Simon actually has the skill to play on the top two lines. He doesn't need to fight to have a role or place in the NHL. Guys like Laraque and Brashear do not have that same skill level as a Simon.
Except they both "think" they are scorers now.

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Nashville fans would disagree. We'd love to have him back.
So would some sens fans (ie: me)

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Laraque just won't go out and rag-doll someone... which is a problem for some.

He won't fight a guy he can pound the crap out of (i.e. a Tucker), so Oiler fans rag on him for not defending his players... but if it's a guy like a Belak, he'll go...

The problem is, he values his reputation in the community, and loves being a role model for kids. So he won't go on the ice and be your typical goon who goes around trying to beat people up, especially guys he shouldn't be fighting.

For instance, if Moore did to Mike York what he did to Naslund, Laraque wouldn't do what Bertuzzi did and try and fight him (ignoring the after part). He would have let the Oilers middle weight (a guy like Staois or Moreau), do it, much like Cooke answered the bell for the Nucks.

However, if a guy like Domi, or a Belak, or a legit big guy did it, Georges would go after him.

The problem is, that doesn't happen very much, if at all, which makes Georges seem like he doesn't want to fight anymore, which simply isn't true.

Oiler fans are quick to get on him, but without him, it wouldn't be the Tuckers and that taking liberties, it would be the much bigger guys.

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Garfield was saying that Laraque wasn't a pure goon so he prefered Simon, just pointed out that Simon is far from being a pure goon himself. Have fun sucking in a few years, I'll be happier without your bias.
No, I said Laraque IS a pure goon. Chris Simon is not.

Have fun sucking in a few years ?? Are you talking about the Flames ??

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well he is not a regular yet, but I think that Stephen Peat is an enforcer that any team would like to have. Also, Belak is a pretty good goon, hate him (Habs fan here) but must admit the guy is evil.

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Laraque just won't go out and rag-doll someone... which is a problem for some.

He won't fight a guy he can pound the crap out of (i.e. a Tucker), so Oiler fans rag on him for not defending his players... but if it's a guy like a Belak, he'll go...
and what good is an enforcer that will only fight enforcers? guys like Tucker have no need to fear him.

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Def. Matt Baranby. Last season he was traded for David Liffiton, a second round draft choice in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft (previously acquired from Florida) and defenseman Chris McAllister.

I doubt many others can get that much.

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If you consider Barnaby an enforcer (as many do including TSN), then him by far. But if you consider him a very good third line agitator (as I do), then its Laraque.

By far the guy with the lowest value in hockey, IMO, is Domi.

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