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02-09-2012, 01:52 PM
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Outside of D'Arnaud, what prospects have an excellent chance of playing with the Jays at some point this season?
I'd say Drew Hutchison has the best shot.
Farrell is EXTREMELY high on him and even AA has said many times this season that Hutchsion could be a factor in 2012.

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I'm confused...Hutch over Gose? Sanchez over Syndergaard?

5 in the top 100 is wicked too no? Don't get Sanchez being in the top 100 over Noah or Justin though. This is like the only list I've seen where he's ranked that well.
Ya that's a high ranking for Sanchez. He's got the potential to meet it, but last year didn't show it on a regular basis. He's got a higher ceiling then Nicolino though.

Syndergaard should be there though.

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But Sanchez has only pitched A- ball hasn't he? I dunno, it's draft pedigree he's going off of I guess.
Not even Low-A ball. Rookie ball. At Bluefield. Syndergaard pitched there too, but then saw time at Vancouver and Lansing too.

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I'd say Drew Hutchison has the best shot.
Farrell is EXTREMELY high on him and even AA has said many times this season that Hutchsion could be a factor in 2012.
Definitely Huch!

Does Drabek still count?

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02-09-2012, 02:06 PM
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Definitely Huch!

Does Drabek still count?
I'd think so.

Cooper should get some games in if Lind has back issues again.

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Interesting throw away line by Dave Perkins of the TO Star about the Jays installing grass, and turfing the Argos.



Didn't even hear about that.....
I'm really surprised nothing was mentioned about this last year. I can really see whey the brass would be looking at it a little further now. When your out right told by a player or his agent that he doesn't want to play in your city because of the field it's a problem. I now really hope they find a way to do it. Let the Argos play elsewhere and get grass on that field.

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Didn't see it posted but Mastroianni was claimed by the twins today.

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""Sources say Padres had deal with Toronto for Mat Latos..then asked for more..names mentioned Travis D'Arnaud-Drabek-Lawrie-Jays said no."


This from a SD radio person

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""Sources say Padres had deal with Toronto for Mat Latos..then asked for more..names mentioned Travis D'Arnaud-Drabek-Lawrie-Jays said no."


This from a SD radio person
If those names were deal-breakers, I'm glad AA didn't do it. Much rather develop arms from within, than pay that much for Latos

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Per Kevin Goldstein the Jays have signed Koby Clemens to fill out the minor league rosters. Clemens is a 25 year old first baseman who hit well in A ball and below but who has hit in the 240 range in AA and AAA. Clemens has slugger-type stats, he slugged .476 in AA in 2010 while striking out 143 times and walking 69 times.
Yup, that Clemens name.

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Law on Aaron Sanchez

96-It wasn't quite the pro debut I'd expected from Sanchez, but after struggling with his control in his first two outings, he implemented an adjustment at Toronto's instruction to keep his front side more closed and produced much better results for the rest of the summer. Sanchez topped out in the mid-90s in just about every start, with an average curveball in the upper-70s and an improving changeup. His arm action is clean and easy, and his body is very projectable, so he could easily sit in the mid-90s in a few years once his body has matured.

He'll need to refine the off-speed pitches and improve his command, which still needs work even with his delivery more on line to the plate. Sanchez, control artist Justin Nicolino and hard-throwing Noah Syndergaard should all start 2012 in Lansing in what will be one of the minors' best prospect rotations, with all three guys strong candidates for next year's list.

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02-09-2012, 06:33 PM
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Looking at our top prospects we definitely need to be drafting some infielders during the 2012 draft, enough pitchers/catchers.
Jays have some but in the lower minors. Not a lot of high ceiling SS/2B/1B in the system. They do have McDade, Dean, Hech and bunch of guys in the lower system but yeah that's something they could improve in. They really really lack a potential good 2nd basemen in the system.

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Outside of D'Arnaud, what prospects have an excellent chance of playing with the Jays at some point this season?
Carreno, Hutch, McGuire, Hech (maybe), Jenkins, maybe even Woj.

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Not even Low-A ball. Rookie ball. At Bluefield. Syndergaard pitched there too, but then saw time at Vancouver and Lansing too.
He pitched in Vancouver and I believe Lansing too in the playoffs.

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Didn't see it posted but Mastroianni was claimed by the twins today.
Good luck to him but I see him nothing more than a 4th outfielder at best.

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""Sources say Padres had deal with Toronto for Mat Latos..then asked for more..names mentioned Travis D'Arnaud-Drabek-Lawrie-Jays said no."


This from a SD radio person
Did they ask for all three or at least one of them +++?

If they asked for 3, then I have no idea why they would lower their price so much to accept Reds offer.

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Jays have some but in the lower minors. Not a lot of high ceiling SS/2B/1B in the system. They do have McDade, Dean, Hech and bunch of guys in the lower system but yeah that's something they could improve in. They really really lack a potential good 2nd basemen in the system.
Correct me if Im wrong, but arent most good 2B converted Shortstops?

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If those names were deal-breakers, I'm glad AA didn't do it. Much rather develop arms from within, than pay that much for Latos
Agreed. Catchers like d'Arnaud don't grow on trees. I love Arencibia as a power bat and the energy/personality he brings to the team, but d'Arnaud is still unquestionably the future of the team at catcher.

They could take Drabek though. he still might bounce back, but the extreme lack of control and occasionally piss-poor attitude aren't exactly endearing him to me.

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Yup, that Clemens name.
lol, cue the "the Jays brought him in to set up a roids supply line for Bautista" rumor.

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Also re: Mastro - No biggie. Jays have ridiculous OF depth. It's not going to break their back to lose Mastro, nor are the Twins suddenly in possession of their OF of the future.

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Correct me if Im wrong, but arent most good 2B converted Shortstops?
I believe so but Jays aren't exactly loaded with high ceiling SS either. They got guys like Optiz, Burns, Berti, Pierre, Mooney... none of which project to be anything special. Some of those are SS and some are 2B, some are both but 'meh'. Vega-Rosada is intriguing... a 2nd baseman who hit really well at rookie ball but he is just 5'8 and isn't a player with a high ceiling.

Thon is probably the only SS with a high ceiling (excluding Hech).

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Jays have some but in the lower minors. Not a lot of high ceiling SS/2B/1B in the system. They do have McDade, Dean, Hech and bunch of guys in the lower system but yeah that's something they could improve in. They really really lack a potential good 2nd basemen in the system.



Carreno, Hutch, McGuire, Hech (maybe), Jenkins, maybe even Woj.



He pitched in Vancouver and I believe Lansing too in the playoffs.



Good luck to him but I see him nothing more than a 4th outfielder at best.



Did they ask for all three or at least one of them +++?

If they asked for 3, then I have no idea why they would lower their price so much to accept Reds offer.
I doubt they asked for all 3. It was prolly for Drabek and d'Arnaud and then the Padres asked for more. Im not even sure I would deal d'Arnaud straight up for Latos. Hes a good young pitcher but coming from that division into the AL East would scare the **** out of me and d'Arnaud looks like a future stud.

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""Sources say Padres had deal with Toronto for Mat Latos..then asked for more..names mentioned Travis D'Arnaud-Drabek-Lawrie-Jays said no."


This from a SD radio person
If it was Drabek + I would have been fine with it but wouldn't want to see either of the other two moved.

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I doubt they asked for all 3. It was prolly for Drabek and d'Arnaud and then the Padres asked for more. Im not even sure I would deal d'Arnaud straight up for Latos. Hes a good young pitcher but coming from that division into the AL East would scare the **** out of me and d'Arnaud looks like a future stud.
Ya there's no way SD asked for all 3 for Mat ****in Latos. A package of Lawrie + D'Arnaud + Drabek is damn well near enough to land a Kershaw/Felix if available.

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Twins Claim Darin Mastroianni From Blue Jays


According to CBSSports’ Dan Knobler on Twitter via MLB Trade Rumors, the Minnesota Twins claimed outfielder Darin Mastroianni from the Jays earlier today. After the signing of Francisco Cordero was made official on February 1, Mastroianni was designated for assignment to clear a spot on the Jays’ 40-man roster





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Blazing Fastball's Top 300 Prospect Rankings

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/...spect-rankings

Blazing Fastball has released our Top 300 Prospect Rankings for 2012. We will be updating the list every month throughout the season. There is plenty of commentary and individual team prospect lists at Blazing Fastball.com.


27 Travis D'Arnaud , - C Blue Jays

49 Jacob Marisnick , - OF Blue Jays

64 Anthony Gose , - OF Blue Jays

78 Drew Hutchison , - RHP Blue Jays

88 Noah Syndergaard , - RHP Blue Jays

111 Deck McGuire , - RHP Blue Jays

114 Daniel Norris , - LHP Blue Jays

123 Justin Nicolino , - LHP Blue Jays

159 Adeiny Hechevarria , - SS Blue Jays

177 Adonys Cardona , - RHP Blue Jays

184 Asher Wojciechhowski , - RHP Blue Jays

193 Aaron Sanchez , - RHP Blue Jays

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I doubt they asked for all 3. It was prolly for Drabek and d'Arnaud and then the Padres asked for more. Im not even sure I would deal d'Arnaud straight up for Latos. Hes a good young pitcher but coming from that division into the AL East would scare the **** out of me and d'Arnaud looks like a future stud.
I would easily do that. Latos has great stuff and potential to be an ace. Yeah coming to the AL East will probably hurt his numbers a bit but they still be good since he is a good pitcher to overcome that. His numbers were just as good away from Petco. D'Arnaud is no sure thing.

But I can understand the point of keeping D'Arnaud and finally having a potential all-star catcher which I'm not sure if this organization has had. There's been a lot of failed catchers over the years and D'Arnaud could end that and finally give the position some stability. We have some pitchers coming up so I can understand keeping D'Arnaud because we are not ready to contend yet.

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