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02-06-2012, 04:46 PM
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Then don't trade for him. Problem solved.

Nobody wants to "overpay," meaning, provide fair value, for either of Columbus' big-ticket players - you know, because they suck. Fine, then CBJ won't trade them. Yet these effing threads still exist.
The sabres WONT trade for him. They have zero need for another LW.

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02-06-2012, 04:52 PM
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Buffalo already has an overpaid left winger

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02-06-2012, 06:31 PM
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As much as I would like to have Nash's scoring punch, he really doesn't make much sense going to the Sabres.

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02-06-2012, 07:02 PM
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Just responding to the thread, not like I made the proposal.

What is so hard to admit that Nash has been very average the last couple of seasons and with that cap hit, he doesn't have much value. Don't trade them and continue to suck, it doesn't bother me one bit.
I can never quite understand the people who say Nash is average. He has played with 3rd line players his entire career. Yet you put him with top line players in other situations (ASG, Olympics, ect) the guy produces.

I'd much rather keep him than get some AVERAGE players on your mediocre team.

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02-06-2012, 07:59 PM
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Why when Nash is really the only player playing with effort on the Jackets. Columbus would never do this.

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02-06-2012, 08:04 PM
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Buffalo already has an overpaid left winger
Who? Hecht? You certainly can't mean Vanek, given his play and production for the past year.

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02-06-2012, 08:14 PM
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Who? Hecht? You certainly can't mean Vanek, given his play and production for the past year.
HAHAH He should be in edmonton hes not worth the money look at the last 4 years idk how many open next hes missed and then the camera shows his face and hes "pissed off and swearing" hes a bum just like the rest of them but a 7.3 million dollar bum

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02-06-2012, 08:23 PM
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A deal for Nash doesn't seem to make much sense for Buffalo at this point. Wouldn't Carter be a more important target for them?
This. I would say Carter to Buffalo for Enroth and Sekera is a good start. Buffalo may want to add some salary; Columbus may want a little more value.

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02-06-2012, 08:32 PM
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Why when Nash is really the only player playing with effort on the Jackets. Columbus would never do this.
This is debatable both from the standpoint of "only player" (Dorsett and MacKenzie will get mentioned immediately, and there's others who deserve notice like Moore, Sanford, Brassard of late, and arguably Tyutin) and from the standpoint of Nash "playing with effort" (he has a (IMO undeserved) reputation as a bit of a floater.)

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This. I would say Carter to Buffalo for Enroth and Sekera is a good start. Buffalo may want to add some salary; Columbus may want a little more value.
Even given the current state of our trauma center injury ward blueline, the last thing we need is Yet Another PMD With Potential. Sekera does nothing for us.

Enroth, though, is obviously of some significant interest.

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02-06-2012, 08:47 PM
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Buffalo already has an overpaid left winger
I am assuming he is talking about Ville Leino.

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02-06-2012, 09:04 PM
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I am assuming he is talking about Ville Leino.
You know it's time for a new GM when we have this many overpaid left wingers that we don't know who he's talking about lol

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02-06-2012, 09:35 PM
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You know it's time for a new GM when we have this many overpaid left wingers that we don't know who he's talking about lol
Funny logic and not a bad suggestion.

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02-06-2012, 09:38 PM
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Toastman....what left winger are you talking about? You have us all in suspense.

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02-06-2012, 09:41 PM
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I can never quite understand the people who say Nash is average. He has played with 3rd line players his entire career. Yet you put him with top line players in other situations (ASG, Olympics, ect) the guy produces.

I'd much rather keep him than get some AVERAGE players on your mediocre team.
He is a 1 dimensional scorer who is good at what he does. He isn't the type of player who is a leader, and makes the teammates around him better. His defense is awful. He's overpaid and should only be making around 5-6 million, his cap hit is one of the highest in the league. Who has he been playing with this year? Prospal and Carter? He's on pace for one of his worst statistical seasons yet. For God's sake man, you're using the ASG as an example of him producing well when placed with good teammates. And yes, he did play well in the Olympics.

I'm not saying he's a bad player, but he is what he is.

And don't insult my team, I don't even want to go into what a mess your team is, much less your franchise.

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02-06-2012, 11:28 PM
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mega deal
To Buffalo
Jeff Carter
Rick Nash

To Columbus
Derek Roy
Drew Stafford
Jordan Leopold or Andrej Sekera
M Gragnani
Jhonas Enroth
2nd rd pick

Buffalo
Vanek- Carter- Pominville
Leino- Ennis- Nash
Gerbe- Adam- Kassian
McCormick- Gaustad- Kaleta

Myers- Ehrhoff
Regehr -Leopold or Sekera
Weber Mcnabb
Miller

That team looks nice

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02-06-2012, 11:43 PM
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mega deal
To Buffalo
Jeff Carter
Rick Nash

To Columbus
Derek Roy
Drew Stafford
Jordan Leopold or Andrej Sekera
M Gragnani
Jhonas Enroth
2nd rd pick

Buffalo
Vanek- Carter- Pominville
Leino- Ennis- Nash
Gerbe- Adam- Kassian
McCormick- Gaustad- Kaleta

Myers- Ehrhoff
Regehr -Leopold or Sekera
Weber Mcnabb
Miller

That team looks nice
Interesting, would do it from buffalo POV but would make it Leopold not sekera, I don't think CBJ fans will like it though they seem to think carter should get Enroth Roy and sekera by him self so if they really think that we are giving them stafford Gragnani and a 2nd for Nash lol.

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02-07-2012, 12:17 AM
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mega deal
To Buffalo
Jeff Carter
Rick Nash

To Columbus
Derek Roy
Drew Stafford
Jordan Leopold or Andrej Sekera
M Gragnani
Jhonas Enroth
2nd rd pick

Buffalo
Vanek- Carter- Pominville
Leino- Ennis- Nash
Gerbe- Adam- Kassian
McCormick- Gaustad- Kaleta

Myers- Ehrhoff
Regehr -Leopold or Sekera
Weber Mcnabb
Miller

That team looks nice
We'd have one goalie and only 6 d-men. How is that a good team?

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02-07-2012, 12:27 AM
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mega deal
To Buffalo
Jeff Carter
Rick Nash

To Columbus
Derek Roy
Drew Stafford
Jordan Leopold or Andrej Sekera
M Gragnani
Jhonas Enroth
2nd rd pick

Buffalo
Vanek- Carter- Pominville
Leino- Ennis- Nash
Gerbe- Adam- Kassian
McCormick- Gaustad- Kaleta

Myers- Ehrhoff
Regehr -Leopold or Sekera
Weber Mcnabb
Miller

That team looks nice
Ummm really in short:
1. We don't have the cap space for that.
2. Why in the world would CLB agree to that? It's a horrid, horrid deal for them.

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02-07-2012, 01:12 AM
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This is debatable both from the standpoint of "only player" (Dorsett and MacKenzie will get mentioned immediately, and there's others who deserve notice like Moore, Sanford, Brassard of late, and arguably Tyutin) and from the standpoint of Nash "playing with effort" (he has a (IMO undeserved) reputation as a bit of a floater.)



Even given the current state of our trauma center injury ward blueline, the last thing we need is Yet Another PMD With Potential. Sekera does nothing for us.

Enroth, though, is obviously of some significant interest.
Valuing Enroth over Sekera is just wrong. I understand you got holes that need to be filled, but Sekera is hardly a PMD with potential. He's a solid top 4 defenseman who can log big minutes, kill penalties and kick start a rush. Enroth has been up and down all season, and primarily down when handed the starting goalie reins.

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mega deal
To Buffalo
Jeff Carter
Rick Nash

To Columbus
Derek Roy
Drew Stafford
Jordan Leopold or Andrej Sekera
M Gragnani
Jhonas Enroth
2nd rd pick

Buffalo
Vanek- Carter- Pominville
Leino- Ennis- Nash
Gerbe- Adam- Kassian
McCormick- Gaustad- Kaleta

Myers- Ehrhoff
Regehr -Leopold or Sekera
Weber Mcnabb
Miller

That team looks nice
I'm sure it does. Unfortunately, I don't like the look of the resulting Blue Jackets team at all.

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Valuing Enroth over Sekera is just wrong. I understand you got holes that need to be filled, but Sekera is hardly a PMD with potential. He's a solid top 4 defenseman who can log big minutes, kill penalties and kick start a rush. Enroth has been up and down all season, and primarily down when handed the starting goalie reins.
Can he shut down the likes of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Toews, Kane, Erat, and Backes?

There's a specific skillset we're lacking here. While Sekera would be welcome on the roster, he's not the sort of player we'd target if we're trading one of the stars. Enroth would be of interest simply because he can play in the NHL and not embarrass himself.

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Even given the current state of our trauma center injury ward blueline, the last thing we need is Yet Another PMD With Potential. Sekera does nothing for us.

Enroth, though, is obviously of some significant interest.
As the guy above me said, I think you have the wrong understanding of what type of player Sekera is. I mentioned him specifically because he is not a PMD - it's well known that Columbus needs shutdown guys because they have Wiz and a boatload of young guys who are considered PMD.

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Can he shut down the likes of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Toews, Kane, Erat, and Backes?

There's a specific skillset we're lacking here. While Sekera would be welcome on the roster, he's not the sort of player we'd target if we're trading one of the stars. Enroth would be of interest simply because he can play in the NHL and not embarrass himself.
Fair enough - Sekera may not be a #1-#2 shutdown guy, but he's a clear upgrade on everyone you have now.

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We'd have one goalie and only 6 d-men. How is that a good team?
This guy also was spewing nonsense about Vanek being overrated

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Fair enough - Sekera may not be a #1-#2 shutdown guy, but he's a clear upgrade on everyone you have now.
Would that include Tyutin and Nikitin? He may potentially be better defensively than Wisniewski, but is he better at producing points?

Please be more circumspect about broad statements like that. They're prone to error.

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