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02-06-2012, 05:27 PM
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All-Consistent Team

List a team of the centers, wings, defenseman, and goalie you thought were most consistent at their position.

Center- Gretzky. Save for the 1995 lockout, he had at least 60 points each season of his career.

Left Wing- Luc Robitaille. Double-digits goal every year. In his first stint with the Kings, his worst season was a mere 44 goals.

Right Wing- Mike Bossy- 50 goals all but one year, and even in that last year, he still came within one goal of having 40 goals every year of his career.

Defenseman- Bourque and Lidstrom. Fun fact- the 1980 NHL All-Star Game was the only one he did not play in.

Goalie- Brodeur. Most 30 win seasons in a row.

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02-06-2012, 05:56 PM
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Pretty sure Mike Gartner should be on this list for RW. 17 straight 20-goal seasons (notwithstanding the lockout), 13 straight 30-goal seasons. He gets a bad rap on HOH as a 'compiler' but you can't argue with that consistency.

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02-06-2012, 06:07 PM
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Hard to say if Gretzky belongs here. There is a definite rise (79 - 81), prime (82 - 88), tail (89 - 99) to his results. No doubt, he was consistently awesome compared to the rest of the league, but within his own set of scoring results there's a wide variation. The relative standard deviation on Gretzky's point totals, for example, would be much larger than for Gartner mentioned above. Mike Bossy as well, although he benefits from a shortened career.

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02-06-2012, 06:13 PM
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i would say sundin

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i would say sundin
13 seasons of scoring between 72-85 pts. Was also on pace for that range during the shortened 94-95 season.

In fact, the only seasons that he wasn't on pace for that point range was:
His rookie season, his final season, and the two seasons where he scored more (114 and 94.)

Model of consistency.

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Hasek over Brodeur, easy.

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Sundin, Sakic at center could be good choice.

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02-06-2012, 08:29 PM
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Sundin is the most consistent centre I've ever seen.

Brodeur definitely gets the vote for goalie though.

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Steve Larmer comes to mind for me

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Depends upon what kind of "consistency" you are looking for... Tiger Williams was consistently over 300 PIM for most of his career. Over 200 every season but two.

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Gartner was the first name I thought of.

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Francis generally comes to mind. Heck, its a big part of the case in favour of his HHOF induction. For the most part of his career an 80ish point guy with some seasons around 75 and others as high as 119 (three times at least 100). Other than a strange 1992 season where he had 54 points in 70 games (cannot remember the reason for that drop) he was a model of consistency.

Modano - pretty much a mirror of Sundin when talking solely about consistency

Gartner - One of two players to crack 30 goals in 15 straight seasons the other...........Jagr, who had a few more peaks and valleys in his career but surprising to some always managed at least 30 goals

Is anyone better than Gordie Howe? 20 years straight of being in the top 5 in scoring

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Modano was on this list until 2003-04. One of the most inexplicable off-years by a great player ever.

He bounced back but never reached his previous level of play.

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Glenn Hall for most consistent goalie.

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Jagr definitely belongs on the list. After obvious choices Lidstrom and Bourque, quite good picks are MacInnis and Stevens or Robinson.
Teemu Selanne is consistent to some degree aswell.

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Is anyone better than Gordie Howe? 20 years straight of being in the top 5 in scoring
Can't believe it took so long for this to be posted.

Howe and Ray Bourque are easily the two most consistent players in NHL history. Each was utterly elite at their position every single year for 20 seasons.

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Jagr definitely belongs on the list. After obvious choices Lidstrom and Bourque, quite good picks are MacInnis and Stevens or Robinson.
Teemu Selanne is consistent to some degree aswell.
As much as I like him and think that he is among the best forwards ever, I can't really see how Jagr is an amazingly consistent player. He has very high peaks and some more pedestrian seasons. I wouldn't call them valleys, but his career plot is definitely not a linear flat line. He has also missed far too many games to be considered a model of consistancy.

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What about this team?

Frank Mahovlich - Stan Mikita - Gordie Howe
Nicklas Lidström - Raymond Bourque

Gordie Howe is an obvious choice at RW. Mikita has 8 All-Star selections in 9 years from 1962-1970. Mahovlich has 9 selections in 13 years between 1961-1973. Both of them have extremely long careers.

The defensive pairing needs no explanation. Other than that Harvey would be a good choice as well. He does have a couple of odd seasons stacked on by the end of his career though.

Goaltender is difficult. Glenn Hall is an obvious choice due to his enormous streak, but aren't there other candidates who displayed better results? Ken Dryden's career is very consistant but also too short to be consistant in the longer perspective.

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Frank Mahovlich was a lot like Jagr - if he wasn't motivated, he didn't play as well.

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-Gordie Howe is one of the obvious no-brainer picks.

-I like Sakic as the center. He was consistently excellent over essentially 17 years. If you exclude his rookie season and two injury-filled seasons at the end of his career, his statistics pro-rate over 82 games to at least 79 points a season for every one of those years. Obviously there are lots of other worthy choices at this position.

-The defense is clearly Bourque and one of Lidstrom or Harvey. I suppose you could also make the case for Robinson.

-Goaltender for me comes down to Brodeur or Hall, but I could see arguments for Roy, Hasek, and possibly some others depending on how the question is interpreted.

-Left wing might be the most wide-open position. Have to think about that one some more.

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What about Chris Chelios ? He was pretty consistent for the first 20 years, the last 20 years he fell off a bit but it was gradual.

That's almost not even a joke.

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Gordie Howe had 27 20 goal seasons in a row counting the WHA as well

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As much as I like him and think that he is among the best forwards ever, I can't really see how Jagr is an amazingly consistent player. He has very high peaks and some more pedestrian seasons. I wouldn't call them valleys, but his career plot is definitely not a linear flat line. He has also missed far too many games to be considered a model of consistancy.
15 years with 30+ goals is pretty rare achievment.

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15 years with 30+ goals is pretty rare achievment.
It is definitely a great achievement, but if you plot his annual goal production (or points for that matter) year-by-year you get a veritable rollercoaster. Sure it never hits the floor, but it has some eyecatching decents.

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I kind of had my suspicions that Mahovlich was more inconsistant than I thought on a game-by-game basis. Any other suggestions for left wing? I think a prerequirement for consistancy is to have a career that at least is longer than the norm of the day. Aurele Joliat?

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What about Chris Chelios ? He was pretty consistent for the first 20 years, the last 20 years he fell off a bit but it was gradual.

That's almost not even a joke.
I did the math, and didn't really laugh..................

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Frank Mahovlich was a lot like Jagr - if he wasn't motivated, he didn't play as well.
The idea is that Punch Imlach pushed the Leafs so hard that Frank said he had so little to give come game time. He had some substandard years in the 1960s. A lot of peaks and valleys.

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