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02-07-2012, 11:07 PM
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In Soviet Russia, language learns you.
HAHAHA, wanted to say that!
I saw Randy talk to him the other match vs the Caps, and he nodded and his facial expression showed that he understood.It doesn't require a lot of english to communicate on the ice! But off ice, building friendship and trust requires some decent english. Anglophone or bilingual NHLers, the good guys make an effort to talk to poor english speakers. And European players who learned it, understand the language barrier that they had to face earlier in their career, and makes an effort to listen and explain.Because they know how u feel when someone makes the effort.

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I wonder with who Emelin hangs out.

Kostitsyn? Markov? I would not like to be at his place. It must be really difficult to speak to others players.

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I'm relatively certain that Markov is the only one on the Habs who can speak Russian. Plekanec is from Czech Republic and speaks Czech. Kostitsyn is from Belarus and speaks Belarusian.
I've been following Kostitsyn since he's a prospect and I'm pretty sure he's a Russian descent belarussian. Regardless the two languages are so close that they could be understood perfectly by one another. Theres a few different letters, words and pronunciation and thats it, its even closer than Ukrainian to Russian.

Czech is close enough to Russian that Plekanec might be able to have simple conversations with Emelin about hockey. Pleky has been playing with Kostitsyn for a while too so he's used to dealing with Russian speakers.

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I've been following Kostitsyn since he's a prospect and I'm pretty sure he's a Russian descent belarussian. Regardless the two languages are so close that they could be understood perfectly by one another. Theres a few different letters, words and pronunciation and thats it, its even closer than Ukrainian to Russian.

Czech is close enough to Russian that Plekanec might be able to have simple conversations with Emelin about hockey. Pleky has been playing with Kostitsyn for a while too so he's used to dealing with Russian speakers.
More people in Belarus speak Russian than Belarusian. According to wikipedia it's like 60-70% of the population that speak Russian at home.

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I wonder with who Emelin hangs out.
ive seen him out with kostitsyn.

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by now I'm sure he's picked up enough "hockey english" to communicate as needed both in games and in practice.

when you play a sport at that level, the "understanding" of the game goes beyond language in a way, so that it makes picking up the hockey language/words in a different language pretty easy...

within a few weeks i'm sure he had learnt enough key words/terms to function relatively seemlessly, with the odd mix up of course.

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02-08-2012, 09:51 AM
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Here is some insight from a russian.

1. The good thing. Emelin played 4 seasons for AkBArs Kazan. There is a strong "finnish community" there, some czechs and swedes too. The coaching staff and the teammates communicate in English with them. Some russain players also have some NA experiece. Point is obvious. It's not all that new to Emelin to communicate in English with his teammates. He might have picked up a term or two even before he came to Montreal.

2. The "bad" thing. He's married and has a little daughter. So he obviously spends some time with his family talking Russian and there is not that much hanging out with buddies. From what I know about Emelin he's quite a family man too. I still think though he's pro enough to understand the importance of learning the language and makes an effort like taking lessons or something.

3. Russain an Czech are pretty close. Plaknec and Emelin should be able to communicate. If a russian and a czech talk to each other in their respective languages they both at least understand each other. Not 100%, but it's enough to have a simple conversation.

4. Kostitsyn is neither of russian descent or russian. He's belorussian, even by his name, which btw is spelled Kastitsyn in Belorussian. So the name on his back is basically an english transcription of a russian spelling. It probably comes from his papers. He's still soviet born, so from his birth certificate on in all the documents his name was put in russian, the official language in all parts of the Soviet Union. Most people his age from Belorussia keep that spelling. Younger ppl from Belorussia normally have the belorusssian spelling though.

5. Belorussian is much closer to Russian than Czech. Much closer. You basically don't need a translation at all. So it's pretty normal that ALL belorussian can talk to russians and vice versa freely. In case of AK it's even irrelevant, because as mentioned above he's soviet born and Russian is his first language. I don't even know if he speaks Belorussian at all.

Well, back to Emelin. He has Markov and Kostitsyn to speak Russian and translate. He proably can have a little chat with Plakanec and I forgot Budaj completely. Slovak is pretty close to Czech and closer to Russian. And after all Emelin should know a little English already. It's probably not enough for an interview yet, but I think he's getting there quicker than most people would expect him to.

And after all in all the leagues and countries players and coaches are coming around much more now and they all learn English to communicate.

Btw we have a young goaltender now getting his first stint with the natonal team: Ilya Ezhov. He's russian born, raised in Montreal since the age of 7, speaks French fluently(sign him! ), English too, has a canadian girlfriend. I think this is more and more the shape of things to come.


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Here is some insight from a russian.

1. The good thing. Emelin played 4 seasons for AkBArs Kazan. There is a strong "finnish community" there, some czechs and swedes too. The coaching staff and the teammates communicate in English with them. Some russain players also have some NA experiece. Point is obvious. It's not all that new to Emelin to communicate in English with his teammates. He might have picked up a term or two even before he came to Montreal.

2. The "bad" thing. He's married and has a little daughter. So he obviously spends some time with his family talking Russian and there is not that much hanging out with buddies. From what I know about Emelin he's quite a family man too. I still think though he's pro enough to understand the importance of learning the language and makes an effort like taking lessons or something.

3. Russain an Czech are pretty close. Plaknec and Emelin should be able to communicate. If a russian and a czech talk to each other in their respective languages they both at least understand each other. Not 100%, but it's enough to have a simple conversation.

4. Kostitsyn is neither of russian descent or russian. He's belorussian, even by his name, which btw is spelled Kastitsyn in Belorussian. So the name on his back is basically an english transcription of a russian spelling. It probably comes from his papers. He's still soviet born, so from his birth certificate on in all the documents his name was put in russian, the official language in all parts of the Soviet Union. Most people his age from Belorussia keep that spelling. Younger ppl from Belorussia normally have the belorusssian spelling though.

5. Belorussian is much closer to Russian than Czech. Much closer. You basically don't need a translation at all. So it's pretty normal that ALL belorussian can talk to russians and vice versa freely. In case of AK it's even irrelevant, because as mentioned above he's soviet born and Russian is his first language. I don't even know if he speaks Belorussian at all.

Well, back to Emelin. He has Markov and Kostitsyn to speak Russian with him and translate. He proably can have a little chat with Plakanec and I forgot Budaj completely. Slovak is pretty close to Czech and closer to Russian. And after all Emelin should know a little English already. It's probably not enough for an interview yet, but I think he's getting there quicker than most people would expect him to.

And after all in all the leagues and countries players and coaches are coming around much more now and they all learn English to communicate.

Btw we have a young goaltender now getting his first stint with the natonal team: Ilya Ezhov. He's russian born, raised in Montreal since the age of 7, speaks French fluently(sign him! ), English too, has a canadian girlfriend. I think this is more and more the shape of things to come.
Are you referring to this guy?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=89687

I know a guy that was his goalie coach in junior.

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Here is some insight from a russian.
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Great post!

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Are you referring to this guy?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=89687

I know a guy that was his goalie coach in junior.
I played with him for years when I was younger. Great guy.

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Are you referring to this guy?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=89687

I know a guy that was his goalie coach in junior.
Yes. That's him. You see even his name is spelled kinda french "Ejov" at hockedb instead of "Ezhov" which would be the standard transcription.

and yes he has a lot of bonds in MTL. He's spent most of his life there.

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Great post!
Thanks!

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I played with him for years when I was younger. Great guy.
He's having a breakout year in the KHL. We'll all watch him in his first game for the national team in few days.

And yes, he's fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80TiZzo8dC4

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What the **** difference does it make, is georges or gorges royality or something. he's a decent, not a great hockey player thats pots 2 goals a year. The word great is for people like wayne or bobby or st paddy, not a run in the mill d-man like gorges.
even then.. in 1990 and even now, we still see people misspelling Gretzky's name

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