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02-08-2012, 04:46 AM
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Souray for 2nd, but I think thats too much for an old UFA.
Souray for a 2nd and Shelley . You help us by taking shelleys contract, we overpay and give you a 2nd.

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02-08-2012, 04:57 AM
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The thing is though, we need his size and shot. If we could re-sign him for about his current salary or less, then I think that might be good with Pronger out, because we need more grit.
Don't expect too much from him, he has over performed in the first 10-15 games but then he was only medicore or below.

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02-08-2012, 08:14 AM
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I don't want to give up Larsen, but I'm a big Coburn fan, so how about Souray + Larsen for Coburn (+5th)?
Defense is the issue so why would we give up 2 D men for 1? That would leave Daley, Coburn, Robidas, Grossman, Fistric and Gogo which is still ******!

What would the asking price for Hartnell packaged with Coburn be? Perhaps Robidas, Glennie and 1st?


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02-08-2012, 09:26 AM
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What are Stars fans opinions on Glennie?

He's young and probably has more value to the Star's organization.

As a Flames fan, im still interested though.
Stars fans are pretty bitter about Glennie. He was our highest draft pick in years, and he played out his entire junior career without really being noticed (and missing the WJC roster). He's in his first AHL season and doesn't seem to be doing much to be excited about. Add to that the fact that he always seems to be injured for training camp and prospect camps, and you can see why Stars fans aren't exactly thrilled with the kid.

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02-08-2012, 09:33 AM
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GMJN would ask for a 1st + a center/defensive prospect. Probably along the lines of: Forbort + 1st + salary dump to match the cap.
I'm a Stars fan, but..

Dream.
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No way Dallas gets that for Morrow.

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02-08-2012, 09:33 AM
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Souray for a 2nd and Shelley . You help us by taking shelleys contract, we overpay and give you a 2nd.
how about a lower pick and not taking on a ****** contract?

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02-08-2012, 10:08 AM
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Souray and Larsen for Carle, Wellwood and a 4th/5th?
No way we're trading our best defenseman.

But you can have Souray for a 5th, at this point.

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02-08-2012, 10:08 AM
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I'm a Stars fan, but..

Dream.
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No way Dallas gets that for Morrow.
I agree. Morrow isn't getting you a high-level prospect that was a 1st round pick and another 1st round pick. From a Kings' perspective I am not even sure that Morrow gives the team the offensive punch that it needs.

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02-08-2012, 10:15 AM
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I agree. Morrow isn't getting you a high-level prospect that was a 1st round pick and another 1st round pick. From a Kings' perspective I am not even sure that Morrow gives the team the offensive punch that it needs.
i dont think we would ask for as much from a team that wasn't LA

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02-08-2012, 10:49 AM
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How about raymond for grossman?

most certainly on board for schroeder+second for ott
I personally wouldn't do either of those deals. Raymond as an RFA is worth a lot more then Grossman as a UFA. I also don't think that Ott is worth 1 of our better prospects and a 2nd.

I think the Canucks could use Grossman, I also like the idea of Souray.

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02-08-2012, 10:52 AM
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I personally wouldn't do either of those deals. Raymond as an RFA is worth a lot more then Grossman as a UFA. I also don't think that Ott is worth 1 of our better prospects and a 2nd.

I think the Canucks could use Grossman, I also like the idea of Souray.
what would you offer for each one? I think if we lose are next couple of games they are most definitely available.

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02-08-2012, 10:55 AM
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Defense is the issue so why would we give up 2 D men for 1? That would leave Daley, Coburn, Robidas, Grossman, Fistric and Gogo which is still ******!

What would the asking price for Hartnell packaged with Coburn be? Perhaps Robidas, Glennie and 1st?
Well, if Coburn is a legit top pairing guy it's worth it. Defensive depth isn't the issue at all, it's top end defensive talent. Stars have nobody that fits that bill, Larsen MAYBE end up that good at some point, but likely not(even though I really, really like him). But Philly is Coburn that good? If not I'd pass.

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02-08-2012, 10:57 AM
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I personally wouldn't do either of those deals. Raymond as an RFA is worth a lot more then Grossman as a UFA. I also don't think that Ott is worth 1 of our better prospects and a 2nd.

I think the Canucks could use Grossman, I also like the idea of Souray.
Ott has a lot more intangibles than scoring that make him worth a good prospect and a 2nd. He is still on pace for his 2nd best scoring season in his NHL career.


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With Toronto I'd have to get something involving Schenn, Kadri, Colborne back.

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02-08-2012, 11:08 AM
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How about a Raymond for Fistric? Not good enough?
I'd be tempted to do Raymond for Grossman, probably not for Fistric. Not sure I want to take on Raymond. Ideally I'd like the team to get better than him being in the top six, but we don't need any third line wingers.


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02-08-2012, 12:38 PM
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Souray and Larsen for Carle, Wellwood and a 4th/5th?
Larsen likely isn't going anywhere. If Souray's traded it should be a lone move and not some sort of package where we send promising young players away.

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Souray to the Flyers for SJS 3rd. Really though, anything anywhere.

Ribeiro, Robidas to the Hawks for Frolik and (McNeill+2nd)/(Pirri+1st). Might want to include someone like Lepisto to clear a roster spot.

Morrow to the Kings for Penner, Muzzin and a 5th. Conditional 2012 1st dependent on Penner re-upping.

Crucify me for wanting the Pancake-man and a bunch of other busts... but I think that'll be what gets offered... and considering that we've turned Kari around, I think we can turn Fatty Penner around too.

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Souray to the Flyers for SJS 3rd. Really though, anything anywhere.

Ribeiro, Robidas to the Hawks for Frolik and (McNeill+2nd)/(Pirri+1st). Might want to include someone like Lepisto to clear a roster spot.

Morrow to the Kings for Penner, Muzzin and a 5th. Conditional 2012 1st dependent on Penner re-upping.

Crucify me for wanting the Pancake-man and a bunch of other busts... but I think that'll be what gets offered... and considering that we've turned Kari around, I think we can turn Fatty Penner around too.
Ha, consider yourself crucified. They might offer nothing better than Penner but I'd rather have a 7th round pick than take on the stay-puft marshmallow man.

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Crucify me for wanting the Pancake-man and a bunch of other busts... but I think that'll be what gets offered... and considering that we've turned Kari around, I think we can turn Fatty Penner around too.
Penner looks listless on the ice when I see him play. That's way different from a lack of conditioning as was Lehtonen's issue.

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I'd be tempted to do Raymond for Grossman, probably not for Fistric. Not sure I want to take on Raymond. Ideally I'd like the team to get better than him being in the top six, but we don't need any third line wingers.




Deal.
Raymond would be a 2nd liner in Dallas - He would be behind Eriksson, Ryder, and Morrow. He also kills penalties and plays a very solid defensive game. Besides he's worth a lot more then a UFA to be (Grossman) or a 3rd pairing Dman (Fistric).

As for wanting a better player that makes sense everybody want a team full of elite talent but players like Grossman and Fistric won't be getting you that better player

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Raymond would be a 2nd liner in Dallas - He would be behind Eriksson, Ryder, and Morrow. He also kills penalties and plays a very solid defensive game. Besides he's worth a lot more then a UFA to be (Grossman) or a 3rd pairing Dman (Fistric).

As for wanting a better player that makes sense everybody want a team full of elite talent but players like Grossman and Fistric won't be getting you that better player
Personally i like raymond and would definitely do raymond for grossman and would think hard about raymond for fistric... we dont really have many fast players on our team outside of wandell

I think he would be better than ott on the 2nd line although neither belong on the second line

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With Toronto I'd have to get something involving Schenn, Kadri, Colborne back.
No dice. We're not at the stage to be giving up our top young guys for aging rental types. I'd do a 3rd (possibly a 2nd, you'd have to sweet talk me though) + a 2nd tier prospect ie. D'Amigo, Holzer, Mckegg

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For people that want Souray gone, what has he done poorly this season? Is he better than Carle in the idea that he actually knows how to get rid of the puck from his own zone?

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