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02-08-2012, 04:35 AM
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Powerplay

We know that our goaltending and defense are not good enough but we also know that it's mainly because we don't have good enough players on those positions.

What I cannot accept is that our powerplay is one of the worst in the league, with the players we have it's shocking how poor the PP is.

We are third highest scoring team in the league 5vs5, with just Detroit and Boston ahead of us.

The Fleming issue is one reason but that is even more alarming is that we are 11th at home on the PP but by far the worst PP team away with 8.6%

I would say that with a good PP we would be in a playoff position now, despite our weak goaltending and defense, so what should be done regarding this?

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02-08-2012, 06:34 AM
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MAB is the cause of, and solution to, all PP concerns.

We seemed to get a few when he was injured. Maybe re-injuring MAB is the key?

The concept of a PP specialist is proving to be absurd, IMO. Hockey is a team game, and even a PP requires a team effort to score. Getting the puck back to the same guy every time, for him to shoot it, makes for an easy PP to shut down, and pick off for SH opportunities. Especially since MAB isn't exactly a defensive wunderkind.

I'm aware of a bias that he's just coming back from injury, so he's very eager to shoot it. That may fade, but probably not.

Forwards gotta hit the net on those shot attempts at any rate. Last year we scored a lot of garbage goals, but at the beginning of this year, we saw a few clean ones go in, and I think that changed the mentality of point shots creating opportunities for the forwards, (with the odd one going in without any help up front), to an expectation of them going in with some frequency.

What MAB does is he tries to shoot to score, which is hard to do from the blue line. All he needs to do is get it to the net so the forwards in the high percentage areas can battle for it.

The forwards are also enablers for this. I think when they have to battle for the puck, their brain tells them to move it to the boards, and back to the blue line for another attempt, as a battle means they don't have clear possession.

The problem is exacerbated by MAB shooting pretty much every time, instead of passing it back down to the forwards, where they feel comfortable and in control (as much as they can be).

Which is why when they do win those battles in front of the net, they're uncomfortable with what appears to be chaos, and they aren't trying to pass it to an open forward, or take a shot themselves.

Boucher is all about structure, but a point shot creates what can feel like chaos.

We need the variety of point shots in our arsenal, but we also need forwards who don't panic and try to get it out when a perfect opportunity doesn't present itself.


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02-08-2012, 07:42 AM
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Mikkelson is a solid depth d-man, but he doesnt have enough skills to be put on the PP with the big three. Try Hedman there. He deserves it.

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Am I the only one who thinks that it's time to bring in a coach to fill in for Fleming?

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Why? Wayne didn't work with the powerplay.

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But you have to agree it wouldn't hurt to bring someone in to help improve our awful PP%.

Last season our PP stole us some points. I don't see any reason why it shouldn't anymore.

Especially with guys like #91, #26, #4, #16, #12, #19, #9, #47, #13 on the roster.

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Put Stamkos back at the top of the circle.

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It's just a matter of work ethic. Which is why we can't get it in the ****ing zone.

A PP to us is apparently 2 minutes where we can slack off not 2 minutes where we have an advantage and should work harder.

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When we get it in the zone, we get good scoring chances each time. We're not the team that keeps it around the edges without a scoring chance for the entire 2 minutes... if it's in the zone, it's going toward the net, normally with a good chance. The problem is getting it in the zone... with guys like Stamkos, St. Louis, and Lecavalier, that really shouldn't be a problem, but for some reason it is. Also... win the first ****ing faceoff, please. Kills the first 15 seconds chasing it all the way down and trying to get it back in the zone.

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Why? Wayne didn't work with the powerplay.
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But you have to agree it wouldn't hurt to bring someone in to help improve our awful PP%.

Last season our PP stole us some points. I don't see any reason why it shouldn't anymore.

Especially with guys like #91, #26, #4, #16, #12, #19, #9, #47, #13 on the roster.
Fleming worked with the PK, but his strength is often written as being 'special teams'.

Without Fleming, it does increase the workload of the rest of the staff.

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02-09-2012, 04:56 PM
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Marty and Guy are the ones that tinker with the PP.

Thing is, nothing has really changed with it, except the mentality. They don't have any concept of a killer instinct right now and then they fail on the PP, which breeds more complacency. Last year they buried everything which built ****loads of confidence and that just rolled.

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