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02-08-2012, 07:36 AM
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Rick Nash

Columbus appears to be no closer to winning a cup than they were when Nash first came into the league. It would likely be best for both sides to part ways. What kind of package would be best for Columbus and what teams have the assets to get Nash. Would be great for the league if a player of Nash's caliber was on a team that made it into the playoffs.

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2 top 6 forwards + top prospect + 1st rounder

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2 top 6 forwards + top prospect + 1st rounder
Seriously? No. Maybe a top prospect and a 1st, but that is way too much.

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his value has been discussed in the 4 big Nash to Trade threads...a top dman, a roster player and picks/prospects

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his value has been discussed in the 4 big Nash to Trade threads...a top dman, a roster player and picks/prospects

So.... Jack Johnson, Brad Richardson, Hickey, and Vey?

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2 top 6 forwards + top prospect + 1st rounder
7.8 million..............nope

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Nash's cap hit is brutal. If the Kings were to trade for him he better be a 40-40 man for many years to come along side Richards. Everyone assumes Kopitar needs a sniper, but I think Richards is a better playmaker and Kopitar is a better shooter.

I have heard rumors along the lines of Bernier, Brown, Martinez and a 2nd for Nash and Sanford. That might be what the Kings are offering and Columbus is holding out for more. That would be a pretty big blockbuster for a deadline deal, so I doubt that it happens.

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Lets just keep him.

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So.... Jack Johnson, Brad Richardson, Hickey, and Vey?
I would think Columbus would insist Bernier be involved in the trade.

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yeah...i would think JmfJ, Bernier, and prospects/picks...the one LA guy said Howson asked for Brown, JmfJ, and two prospects and LA said pass...so we have that as a starting point for discussion

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Nash will be 28 in a few months. How long will it take for Columbus to develop into a playoff team let a lone a cup contender? By the time they get to that point, if ever, he will be what Iginla is now to Calgary. However, Nash chose to resign there instead of becoming a UFA. If he's content there then let him stay. In the days of the salary cap, big contracts like his are hard to move. He has scored 40 goals twice and had a career high 79 points 3 years ago. Is he worth this money?

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From the Habs I would give up this years 1st, Beaulieu, and a salary dump. But IMo I would take that offer and try for Getz instead..


He would be worth more if it was not for the huge cap hit....

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I have heard rumors along the lines of Bernier, Brown, Martinez and a 2nd for Nash and Sanford.

You think they'd trade Brown before trading Johnson? Wouldn't we still have holes in our top 6?

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You think they'd trade Brown before trading Johnson? Wouldn't we still have holes in our top 6?
Just hearing that Lombardi really likes how Johnson is coming along and that he sees him as a necessary component going forward after Mitchell and Scuderi are gone some day. Dean likes cost certainty with good players and Johnson certainly provides that.

I don't think he likes the idea of giving up Brown, but if the choice is Bernier + Johnson, or Bernier + Brown, I think Dean prefers keeping Johnson.

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I don't think he likes the idea of giving up Brown, but if the choice is Bernier + Johnson, or Bernier + Brown, I think Dean prefers keeping Johnson.
I would much rather give up Brown than J. Johnson, but my fear would be that we would only be creating a new hole by giving up Brown, and filling it with Nash.

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I don't think he likes the idea of giving up Brown, but if the choice is Bernier + Johnson, or Bernier + Brown, I think Dean prefers keeping Johnson.
If he truly believes that, I would think less of him. He'd be trading for a contract with an awful cap hit (Nash, unlikely to start scoring 40 goals here as you say) and giving them three excellent value contracts in return (Brown, Martinez and Bernier). And with Doughty, Kopitar, and Nash all on one team, you'd need a ton of value deals to make up for it. Plus, we don't know what Quick wants!

Cringe-inducing.

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I'd give up Anisimov, Saur, Thomas, 1st

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Colorado offers Stastny + Quincey + choice of S. Elliott/Barrie. young #1C + young #2D + top flight, NHL-ready offensive D prospect. We could take a cap dump too if needed.

Maybe not the best rebuilding offer, or the offer with the most potential, but I doubt you'll get more "right now," proven talent than this offer.

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How many teams would offer Nash 6 years at 7.8mm per if he was a UFA after this, his worst season in a while? I think his value is lower than what some fans think. Just saying.

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From the Habs I would give up this years 1st, Beaulieu, and a salary dump. But IMo I would take that offer and try for Getz instead..


He would be worth more if it was not for the huge cap hit....
woah! lets not get carried away now. the point is to get THEIR first pick, not give ours

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How many teams would offer Nash 6 years at 7.8mm per if he was a UFA after this, his worst season in a while? I think his value is lower than what some fans think. Just saying.
On the open market, this is probably exactly where he would end up. Not to deviate into Jeff Carter, but in an open market, he'd be ending up with probably at least a million more per year than what he's making.

Nash is still a perennial All-Star and an Olympian who can play pretty much any role that's asked of him at a high level. Those guys don't just grow on trees.

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Colorado offers Stastny + Quincey + choice of S. Elliott/Barrie. young #1C + young #2D + top flight, NHL-ready offensive D prospect. We could take a cap dump too if needed.

Maybe not the best rebuilding offer, or the offer with the most potential, but I doubt you'll get more "right now," proven talent than this offer.
I love how this is totally ignored.. That's ok with me though as much as I like Nash the strength of our team is our center depth, big D and our goalie tandem. I am not breaking that up for a 7.8 million cap hit when there is possibly one of the best UFA winger classes coming up in the off season. We will fix it then.. Thanks


(Parise, Semin, Ruutu, Kostitsn, Hemsky, and guys like Boyes who might turn it back up with a playmaker and sign cheap for a shot.)


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I love how this is totally ignored.. That's ok with me though as much as I like Nash the strength of our team is our center depth, big D and our goalie tandem. I am not breaking that up for a 7.8 million cap hit when there is possibly one of the best UFA winger classes coming up in the off season. We will fix it then.. Thanks
i assume it was ignored because the jackets could much better address their needs than the proposed offer. they have a crazy amount of C right now (weak at the W) and have even more d prospects (many of them offensive d).

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Keep in mind that the defenseman we really need would be a shutdown defensive guy - ideally a LHD to be paired with Wisniewski. We're in a division with guys like Henrik Zetterberg and Jonathan Toews and Pavel Datsyuk and David Backes and Patrick Kane and so forth. We need to be able to tell them they won't be scoring today.

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Colorado offers Stastny + Quincey + choice of S. Elliott/Barrie. young #1C + young #2D + top flight, NHL-ready offensive D prospect. We could take a cap dump too if needed.

Maybe not the best rebuilding offer, or the offer with the most potential, but I doubt you'll get more "right now," proven talent than this offer.
While that is good value, I'd definitely decline and look for something that addresses Columbus's needs more. Stastny would end up being a 3rd line C next year, obviously Quincey is a very good piece, but we also don't need another D prospect at the moment.

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