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02-08-2012, 12:07 PM
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If I'm Snow, I'd ask Nabby if he wants to stay and help the team try for a PO spot and then start negotiations for a 2 yr deal; or if he wants to be traded, start a bidding war and take the best deal you find.

In a trade to a contender, at his highest value right now, I think we'd be extremely lucky if we got a late 1st Round pick. I think realistically we are looking at either a 2nd round pick and a decent (not a blue chip or great) prospect or a 3rd round pick and a servicable depth NHL defensemen or forward. To put it another way, I think Nabby's value is higher then Roloson's was when we traded him, especially due to his incredibly cheap pricetag.

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02-08-2012, 12:12 PM
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If I was Snow, the first call I would've made this morning would've been to Ken Holland, asking what he's willing to give.

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02-08-2012, 12:17 PM
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Sign Nabby ....if he will not sign You have to trade him...it is that simple

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Would do anything to keep him
Sounds like a fantasic idea. Let's give him $10 mil. pr. season for the next 10 years.

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02-08-2012, 12:28 PM
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They should offer him a 2 year deal worth $10million. That could be enough to get him to stay. At the end of the 2nd year KP should be ready to take the reigns.

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They should offer him a 2 year deal worth $10million. That could be enough to get him to stay. At the end of the 2nd year KP should be ready to take the reigns.
Maybe. But put yourself in his skates. He only has a few good years left. After 2 years, his level of play will dwindle a bit and will prob be a backup ater that. We'll be better the next 2 years but not elite.

Unfortunately, he will want to go to a top team that needs him as their #1 and shoot for a cup. I hope I'm wrong because having him here for the next 2 is perfect...

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02-08-2012, 12:45 PM
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I feel like at the very least you have to approach him and discuss the possibility of re-signing. If he is set against becoming a UFA then you obviously have to move him. Having a legit #1 goalie, despite his age, along with some of the other positives this team has discovered surely makes the team more attractive come UFA season.

At some point the team has to continue to go forward and take the next step. I would re-sign him and end the goalie carousel for at least the next season, develop Poulin and see what we have come the end of the next 1-2 seasons.
Pretty much this. It's going to take at least a 2 year deal and a fat raise to get him to even think about re-upping here. Perfect for Poulin to get completely up to NHL speed. DP will be like the kid in little league that can't really play that well, but you can't just bench because the rules mandate that he has to play at least a few innings. In this case, it will be his contract doing the mandating.

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Sounds like a fantasic idea. Let's give him $10 mil. pr. season for the next 10 years.
You have the makings of the next GM of the Islanders

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02-08-2012, 01:04 PM
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trade now, before anything can happen. montoya is a great goalie as well, and poulin is waiting in the gate...

actually i think i prefer montoya to nabby, he is more consistent.

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02-08-2012, 01:05 PM
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I think the bigger question is what to do with Montoya.

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02-08-2012, 01:06 PM
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They should offer him a 2 year deal worth $10million. That could be enough to get him to stay. At the end of the 2nd year KP should be ready to take the reigns.
if he gets injured or his play gets weak he will be impossible to trade. that would be a terrible move!

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02-08-2012, 01:09 PM
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Don't think he would fetch a number one pick, but maybe a package with PAP could work. Right now if I am Garth the return has to be worth it. This is the best position the team has been in years, but we are still along shot. If we get a good package then pull the trigger, if not the experience gained by playing meaningful games is enough for a guy who we got for nothing
a 2nd and a 4th rounder would be good as well

pile picks and either trade up in the draft with them (to get a nhl ready player) or use them to package that top 4 dman (with pa and a prospect).

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02-08-2012, 01:11 PM
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if he gets injured or his play gets weak he will be impossible to trade. that would be a terrible move!
Not a terrible move at all. We finally have a elite goaltender, you do all you can to keep him. It's not like I said sign a 6year deal, now that would be a terrible move.

Nabby needs to stay, he his worlds better then Montoya, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to re-evaluate their knowledge of hockey.

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02-08-2012, 01:14 PM
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I know nabby has been great and im glad hes on this team, however call me old school, but i dont respect players that refuse to dress for teams. People shud dislike him as much as washingtons coach, they both pretty much spat in our faces and embarrased the organization publicly

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02-08-2012, 01:18 PM
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Not a terrible move at all. We finally have a elite goaltender, you do all you can to keep him. It's not like I said sign a 6year deal, now that would be a terrible move.

Nabby needs to stay, he his worlds better then Montoya, anyone who thinks otherwise needs to re-evaluate their knowledge of hockey.
nabby would not lock up the 1A position. He has groin issues at his older age, has difficulties at puck handling and didnt exactly show his professional attitude in the past. Nabby will be a highly rewarding but nonetheless risky choice in my mind.

Why did he get waived back then?

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02-08-2012, 01:23 PM
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If I was Snow, the first call I would've made this morning would've been to Ken Holland, asking what he's willing to give.
If I were Holmgren, I'd have ran to the Isles box and begged Snow to take Couturier for Nabokov.


Other GMs will contact Snow about Nabokov, no doubt.

He will likely be traded, I don't expect a huge return, but it will probably be something Snow has to do.
But he's emerged as the best goalie this team has seen a long long time! Montoya's been good too but Nabby seems to have the ability to make the BIG SAVE and the ability to limit bad goals at key moments. Team seems to play better in front of him for some reason.

The team psyche and confidence is leaps-and-bounds better when they have strong goal-tending.

Shame to see them lose that.

But Nabby was never theirs and I still doubt he wants to be as Islander. That matters.

Of course, only Snow, Cappy and the locker room know the truth.

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02-08-2012, 01:26 PM
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They should offer him a 2 year deal worth $10million. That could be enough to get him to stay. At the end of the 2nd year KP should be ready to take the reigns.
N with the Isles luck he gets hurt and then were paying to goalies 9.5 mil a seaso to not play.....

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02-08-2012, 01:27 PM
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Its honestly very simple.


The closer we are to 8th, we keep him.

The further we are from 8th, we move him.

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02-08-2012, 01:29 PM
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nabby would not lock up the 1A position. He has groin issues at his older age, has difficulties at puck handling and didnt exactly show his professional attitude in the past. Nabby will be a highly rewarding but nonetheless risky choice in my mind.

Why did he get waived back then?
Nabokov has never been waived. If your referring to when we claimed him off of waivers it was because he was playing in a league outside of the NHL, he had to go through waivers before coming back. That's the rule.

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Its honestly very simple.


The closer we are to 8th, we keep him.

The further we are from 8th, we move him.
Exactly this.

In reality, the Isles are playing with house money; thanks to the Wings, Nabby fell right in our lap.

The ones I'd hate to be are the Devils and the Preds with their impending UFA situations.

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02-08-2012, 01:49 PM
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I really would love to see Nabby around for another 2 years. If he's willing to sign with us, that would be a loud message to the rest of the NHL. Tavares AND Nabby signing makes it clear we are serious.

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Without a doubt the Isles should gauge whether he is willing to sign an extension. He has been awesome.

I am sure he wants to play for a contender, but, how many contenders need a goalie? Chicago, maybe. Anyone else? TB is worse than us. Can't see Philly spending on yet another goalie. Washington will probably turn to Neuvirth next year. So, who is left to grab Vokoun, Nabokov, possibly trade for Schneider?

If Nabokov feels the team is ready for the playoffs next year (and re-signing him would help give the appearance that we are serious) it may be his best option.

I would be willing to overpay ($5M?) on a 2-year deal. The risk on a short-term deal like that for a team that is near the cap floor is minimal.

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Nabby's case is similar to Roloson's when we moved him to Tampa. We got back a AAA player. We won't get any blue chippers for him.

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Nabokov has never been waived. If your referring to when we claimed him off of waivers it was because he was playing in a league outside of the NHL, he had to go through waivers before coming back. That's the rule.
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I would say you definitely wait and see where we are closer to the deadline. If we are within reasonable striking distance you for sure keep him. If we aren't playing well though and are more then 10 points back you trade him to a contender for another piece to the rebuild

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