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David Perron to Montreal (this summer)

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02-08-2012, 11:19 AM
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David Perron to Montreal (this summer)

Perron will be a RFA come July 1st

What kind of offer sheet could the habs make?

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02-08-2012, 11:26 AM
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in before blues fan go lololo unless you give us subban, pacioretty, plekanec, 17 first round picks and the club masseuse forget it tbh

no srsly. you're gonna be disappointed with the replies

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02-08-2012, 11:33 AM
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in before blues fan go lololo unless you give us subban, pacioretty, plekanec, 17 first round picks and the club masseuse forget it tbh
Don't be a dick just because Blues fans are happy with their team and don't particularly want to trade anyone.

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02-08-2012, 11:37 AM
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Make any offer sheet you want and anything with in reason will be matched.

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02-08-2012, 11:38 AM
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Don't be a dick just because Blues fans are happy with their team and don't particularly want to trade anyone.
Except that's exactly the reply he's going to get.

When there are these proposals for players that are liked, people of that team will come out and say the most ridiculous things.

HFBoards is the #1 place where people overrate their own players.

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He's a good player and fits in very well with their lineup and system. They will keep him FOR SURE

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Would take a lot to get him. Think about it, we do not have a big hole in our line up. The biggest hole we have is a consistent goal scorer. Perron is one of our better scorers since returning, just scored 2 last night. No reason to trade him unless he wants a big contract, which I don't think he does. As far as an offer sheet, your at least giving up 2 1st rounder...


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I think the Blues will match almost any reasonable offer sheet, assuming Perron even reaches that stage.

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Because all of the other St. Louis-Montreal threads turned out so well. We've been over this before, we aren't good trading partners, and you guys won't offer sheet him with a potential top 5 pick.

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Because all of the other St. Louis-Montreal threads turned out so well. We've been over this before, we aren't good trading partners, and you guys won't offer sheet him with a potential top 5 pick.
bingo-boingo

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Except that's exactly the reply he's going to get.

When there are these proposals for players that are liked, people of that team will come out and say the most ridiculous things.

HFBoards is the #1 place where people overrate their own players.
"We are a playoff team and won't trade our core players unless the return makes us better" isn't really very ridiculous.

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Except that's exactly the reply he's going to get.

When there are these proposals for players that are liked, people of that team will come out and say the most ridiculous things.

HFBoards is the #1 place where people overrate their own players.
Yes, the Blues fans like their younger players but so what? This is what the FO has been selling to use since we started our rebuild when the Lauries gutted the team after the lockout. It's the first time the Blues have focused on building through draft and development ever. Now that we are looking like a decent team and still have some good prospects still coming we don't want to change our team, why would we?

We got tired of seeing older player +2nd for Oshie, Berglund, ect. Call it whatever, but there is no reason to trade these players unless the return makes since for the team.


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Because all of the other St. Louis-Montreal threads turned out so well. We've been over this before, we aren't good trading partners, and you guys won't offer sheet him with a potential top 5 pick.
Pretty much sums it up. Perron will be a Blue for a long time.

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02-08-2012, 12:10 PM
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Gomez and a 3rd for Oshie and Perron

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How about a deal around Gorges for Perron?

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How about a deal around Gorges for Perron?
Just answer these questions:

What's our weakness?

What's our strength?

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in before blues fan go lololo unless you give us subban, pacioretty, plekanec, 17 first round picks and the club masseuse forget it tbh

no srsly. you're gonna be disappointed with the replies

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Except that's exactly the reply he's going to get.

When there are these proposals for players that are liked, people of that team will come out and say the most ridiculous things.

HFBoards is the #1 place where people overrate their own players.

I find these posts self-serving. What exactly are you expecting... Meh, you can have him for a 7th round pick? Of course this is going to be met with resistance from Blues fans, and rightfully so. When a team has no incentive to move a player, the asking price for that player is going to be disproportionate to his "fair market value".

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02-08-2012, 12:25 PM
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I find these posts self-serving. What exactly are you expecting... Meh, you can have him for a 7th round pick? Of course this is going to be met with resistance from Blues fans, and rightfully so. When a team has no incentive to move a player, the asking price for that player is going to be disproportionate to his "fair market value".
I'm expecting people to be realistic.

I'm not saying that all the replies are ridiculous but there are people who actually believe Perron is worth Price and a 1st, or something like that, because they're happy with Perron.

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I'm expecting people to be realistic.

I'm not saying that all the replies are ridiculous but there are people who actually believe Perron is worth Price and a 1st, or something like that, because they're happy with Perron.
In all of the St. Louis-Montreal threads, no one ever said anything about Price+ or anything like that. In fact it was more of we don't have interest in any players from Montreal and some Montreal fans didn't like that too much. In the last thread, some of the Montreal fans finally started to understand how our ownership situation is and started to see our point of view.

But, why would we trade from a weakness, even in the summer?

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02-08-2012, 12:37 PM
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I'm expecting people to be realistic.

I'm not saying that all the replies are ridiculous but there are people who actually believe Perron is worth Price and a 1st, or something like that, because they're happy with Perron.
Because the majority of the MTL/STL trade proposals have been obnoxious. St. Louis is 4th in the west, why would they need to dump players? Just for fun?

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The only option that could make some sense for either team is a Perron for Pacioretty swap.

But Montreal would have picked Perron instead of Pacio four years and a half a go if they wanted that, so they decline. Also, Blues are happy with Perron's progression and how well he fits on the Backes line, so they decline as well.

Is there anything to add before this thread dies?

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The only option that could make some sense for either team is a Perron for Pacioretty swap.

But Montreal would have picked Perron instead of Pacio four years and a half a go if they wanted that, so they decline. Also, Blues are happy with Perron's progression and how well he fits on the Backes line, so they decline as well.

Is there anything to add before this thread dies?
pretty much sums it up

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I'm expecting people to be realistic.

I'm not saying that all the replies are ridiculous but there are people who actually believe Perron is worth Price and a 1st, or something like that, because they're happy with Perron.

What you seem to be overlooking is that realistically a player's value should not be determined independent of his current team's needs. If you offer Carey Price and a 1st round pick to the Blues for David Perron, St. Louis declines. The Blues have two starting caliber goaltenders and a respectable prospect pool. Your offer subtracts scoring from a team that is struggling to do so, and adds a 3rd goaltender to a stable of goaltenders already putting up elite numbers, it creates more problems than it solves. Just because a team is getting the "better" value in a trade, it doesn't mean that trade is prudent to make.


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Would take a lot to get him. Think about it, we do not have a big hole in our line up. The biggest hole we have is a consistent goal scorer. Perron is one of our better scorers since returning, just scored 2 last night. No reason to trade him unless he wants a big contract, which I don't think he does. As far as a Offer sheet, be ready to give up 2 1st rounders at least.


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Its pretty simple IMO,

If MTL wants Perron, the Blues would ask for Patches. MTL would then say no thank you, and end of story...

Funny thing is, MTL media was going crazy about the Habs drafting Patches over Perron until recently when its become clear that for the Habs Patches brings a lot more to the table.

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