Tomas Plekanec

m00ks · 02-09-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CarvinSigX

If they do decide to rebuild...What has to be added for this to work?

Schwartz
Ponich
1st

Habs would never full out rebuild. Too many good pieces already in place and at ripe ages.

Also, I would never move Pleka for futures. I'd be aiming for a 1-2 year maximum turnover, something you can't get with mid-round picks and prospects.

Pleka + for unhappy/struggling star (not necessarily talking about one of RPG). That's the return I'd be looking at and nothing less.

mytor4* · 02-09-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyt911

I said skillset?? did I???? ummm nope i didn't nice try tho, I actually used Eller as the skill set example if you actually read it to the end. A good reason might be he can reach the light switch, freezer and cookies for the rest of the centers

Here read it's in your original post not your edited post

Originally Posted by bobbyt911
Pleks for Ryan or any thing like that would never happen. It has nothing to do with value or anything but how things work in the NHL. If Pleks were to be traded it would prob be for a big skilled center prospect like Colbourne and a pick. I'm not suggesting Colbourne but a player similar. Or it could be a pkg of a few descent prospects. I would think that the Habs would be more interested in a situation like Eller and I see Pleks fetching roughly the same as Halak did.

See the part that says ..big skilled center prospect like Colbourne .
Editing a post doesn't always work but nice try.

Captain Smurf · 02-09-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CarvinSigX

If they do decide to rebuild...What has to be added for this to work?

Schwartz
Ponich
1st

I'd probably do that deal, but I'm very high on Schwartz. Don't think it'd be something that Habs management would do, but that's more expectation than anything else.

Value is good though.

bobbyt911 · 02-09-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by topdog

Here read it's in your original post not your edited post

Originally Posted by bobbyt911
Pleks for Ryan or any thing like that would never happen. It has nothing to do with value or anything but how things work in the NHL. If Pleks were to be traded it would prob be for a big skilled center prospect like Colbourne and a pick. I'm not suggesting Colbourne but a player similar. Or it could be a pkg of a few descent prospects. I would think that the Habs would be more interested in a situation like Eller and I see Pleks fetching roughly the same as Halak did.

See the part that says ..big skilled center prospect like Colbourne .
Editing a post doesn't always work but nice try.

I edited it to make it 100% clear because I thought saying "I'm not suggesting Colbourne" was clear enough. Back to the point at hand if the Habs are trying to get a better bigger C then good luck cuz most teams aren't going to trade a C for a C unless the Habs include their top prospects. What would work however is pkg Pleks with picks/prospects go for top D then flip the D for the C you guys wanted.

mytor4* · 02-09-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyt911

I edited it to make it 100% clear because I thought saying "I'm not suggesting Colbourne" was clear enough. Back to the point at hand if the Habs are trying to get a better bigger C then good luck cuz most teams aren't going to trade a C for a C unless the Habs include their top prospects. What would work however is pkg Pleks with picks/prospects go for top D then flip the D for the C you guys wanted.

nice try.

angry pirate · 02-09-2012, 06:08 PM

Anaheim recieves:

Tomas Plekanec
2012 3rd Round pick
2013 3rd Round pick (Conditional on Anaheim missing the 2012 playoffs)

Montreal Recieves:

Devante Smith Pelley
Peter Holland
2012 1st Round pick (Changes to 2013 if Anaheim misses 2012 playoffs)

bobbyt911 · 02-09-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by topdog

nice try.

You say nice try like I was actually trying something lol. Any how the Habs are in a tough spot in that they're talent is young so you don't trade it away and they only have Gionta, Gill and Cole for Vets to try and snag top prospects with. Gionta should get a 1st any day but Cole and Gill won't bring home whats needed so i suspect a cpl yrs more of no play offs for the Habs untill the prospects get going. And the Habs love to take their time with them.

Gliff · 02-09-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by angry pirate

Anaheim recieves:

Tomas Plekanec
2012 3rd Round pick
2013 3rd Round pick (Conditional on Anaheim missing the 2012 playoffs)

Montreal Recieves:

Devante Smith Pelley
Peter Holland
2012 1st Round pick (Changes to 2013 if Anaheim misses 2012 playoffs)

Or Holland + 1st?

We are not going to trade away pick/prospects like they are throwaways when we suck this bad.

I would give up 2 of Holland/DSP/1st. Not all 3. Even if you guys do add 2nd/3rds to even it out.

Chris G · 02-09-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gliff

Or Holland + 1st?

We are not going to trade away pick/prospects like they are throwaways when we suck this bad.

I would give up 2 of Holland/DSP/1st. Not all 3. Even if you guys do add 2nd/3rds to even it out.

Pleky for holland + 1st 2012?

Done

Gliff · 02-09-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris G

Pleky for holland + 1st 2012?

Done

before the draft. Not now. If the pock is top 8 then we keep it sorry. 2013 1st instead.

Beendair Donedat · 02-09-2012, 08:12 PM

I'd rather get McNeil from Chicago for a big young center prospect. Imagine a 1-2-3 punch of Grigorenko, McNeil, Desharnais in a couple of years?

bobbyt911 · 02-09-2012, 08:18 PM

OMG Gomez Scored!!

mytor4* · 02-10-2012, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyt911

OMG Gomez Scored!!

And he's almost double the pt total of pylon Komi.

KEEROLE Vatanen · 02-10-2012, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bourne Endeavor

Depends on the offer. If we could get something like Anaheim's first and Smith-Pelly, I'n sold. We take a bit of a risk on where the pick ends up but odds are quite high it remains a top ten.

Anaheim is not going to do that right now.....Koivu is playing very well, so is our no.3 center Nick Bonino. I could see Anaheim having interest in Pleks after the season, but their pick is still top 5 right now with a difficult 8 game road trip coming.

FiveForDrawingBlood · 02-11-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FanHabtic

And the thing is, i don't get how some Habs fans feel Pleks is expendable. David Desharnais is hardly a proven commodity. I get the lovefest with him given his production this season but he doesn't make Pleks expendable. We have no centerman or forward for that matter who can kill penalties or play key situations like Plekanec does.

If anything there should be a "value of David Desharnais" thread as i find he is expendable. Sell off the little guy while his value is high (probably the highest it ever will be).

In part I agree but Desharnais has good chemistry with Pacioretty and Cole. Making him an effective #2 center. Plekanec will fetch the most in a trade. Plekanec face-off and PK duties could replaced by signing a good 4th line center like Moore or Gaustad