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Let's make a list - best players drafted at each spot.

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02-08-2012, 06:32 PM
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Let's make a list - best players drafted at each spot.

Thought it would be fun to compile a list made up of the best players ever drafted at each spot. So the best player ever at # 1, best ever at #2, etc etc. Then maybe list the best player out of each round after that. So best player from round 2, best from round 3, etc.

Some may be pretty unanimous, some likely pretty difficult.

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02-08-2012, 06:34 PM
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Thought it would be fun to compile a list made up of the best players ever drafted at each spot. So the best player ever at # 1, best ever at #2, etc etc. Then maybe list the best player out of each round after that. So best player from round 2, best from round 3, etc.
Let's reserve #1 spot for Mario Lemieux.

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Let's reserve #1 spot for Mario Lemieux.
Mike Modano was drafted #1 too though, we'll have to have a vote.

By a slight margin, Lemieux wins. Okay we'll go with Mario at #1.

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Guy who I would list as #2 spot candidates:

Brad Park 1966
Marcel Dionne 1971
Brendan Shanahan 1987
Chris Pronger 1993
Daniel Sedin 2000
Evgeni Malkin 2004

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Guy who I would list as #2 spot candidates:

Brad Park 1966
Marcel Dionne 1971
Brendan Shanahan 1987
Chris Pronger 1993
Daniel Sedin 2000
Evgeni Malkin 2004
That's a very tough one. At his best, I think Malkin is the best of the group, but he just hasn't done enough at this stage. Pronger, Park, or Dionne should be the finalists here. Still not easy.

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That's a very tough one. At his best, I think Malkin is the best of the group, but he just hasn't done enough at this stage. Pronger, Park, or Dionne should be the finalists here. Still not easy.
Pretty much agree with that. Tough to pick.

Guess I'll go with Dionne because compared to Malkin, he has a full career under his belt and obviously sits pretty high on the all-time points list.

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Arguments for #3:

Denis Savard?
Pat Lafontaine?
Scott Niedermayer?
Henrik Sedin?
Marian Gaborik?
Jonathan Toews?

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Guy who I would list as #2 spot candidates:

Brad Park 1966
Marcel Dionne 1971
Brendan Shanahan 1987
Chris Pronger 1993
Daniel Sedin 2000
Evgeni Malkin 2004
Malkin has a shot by the end of his career, but right now it's Park. Neither Park nor Dionne won a Cup but Park's personal performance in the playoffs were much better

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Arguments for #3:

Denis Savard?
Pat Lafontaine?
Scott Niedermayer?
Henrik Sedin?
Marian Gaborik?
Jonathan Toews?
For me this one is Niedermayer v Savard. Henrik has a good shot at taking it eventually though

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So far:

1.Mario Lemieux
2.Brad Park - maybe Dionne ?
3.Savard or Niedermayer - I was thinking of arguing Lafontaine, but just not sure I could justify him over Savoir Faire Denis Savard. I think I would lean towards Savard in this one.

4. I didnt look through every year yet but something tells me Yzerman will hold this spot.

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5) Jagr or Scott Stevens. Jagr
6) Coffey or Forsberg. Forsberg
7) Federko, Barber, Doan, Arnott or Ryan Suter. Prolly have to go with Federko. Maybe Suter or Jeff Skinner could change this one in a few years.
8) Bourque or Sittler. Bourque
9) Neely or Leetch. Leetch
10) Selanne


Oh yeah I go with...
1) Lemieux
2) Park
3) Savard
4) Yzerman

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Worth mentionning

- Phil Myre
- Serge Bernier
- Dick Redmond
- Rick Martin
- Jim Schoenfeld
- Rick Vaive
- John Davidson
- Scott Stevens
- Tom Barasso
- Petr Svoboda
- Bill Guerin
- Jaromir Jagr
- Darius Kasparaitis
- Rob Niedermayer
- Daymond Langkow
- Eric Brewer
- Tim Connolly
- Thomas Vanek
- Carey Price
- Phil Kessel

No poll needed for the best. No poll needed for 2nd best, either. And as far as I'm concerned, Rick Martin is easily the 3rd best here, unless somebody wants to argue for Barasso ...?

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02-08-2012, 10:18 PM
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239. sami salo
286. kim johnsson
287. jannik hansen

third last, dead last, and fifth last in their respective drafts. and that was back when there were more rounds in the draft.

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Worth mentionning

- Phil Myre
- Serge Bernier
- Dick Redmond
- Rick Martin
- Jim Schoenfeld
- Rick Vaive
- John Davidson
- Scott Stevens
- Tom Barasso
- Petr Svoboda
- Bill Guerin
- Jaromir Jagr
- Darius Kasparaitis
- Rob Niedermayer
- Daymond Langkow
- Eric Brewer
- Tim Connolly
- Thomas Vanek
- Carey Price
- Phil Kessel

No poll needed for the best. No poll needed for 2nd best, either. And as far as I'm concerned, Rick Martin is easily the 3rd best here, unless somebody wants to argue for Barasso ...?
I suppose someone could argue Barrasso, but meh.

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239. sami salo
286. kim johnsson
287. jannik hansen

third last, dead last, and fifth last in their respective drafts. and that was back when there were more rounds in the draft.
Thats some nice late pickin.

So far....

1. Mario Lemieux
2. Brad Park - unless someone wants to argue Marcel Dionne or Evgeni Malkin
3. Denis Savard - unless someone wants to argue Scott Niedermayer
4. Steve Yzerman
5. Jaromir Jagr
6. Paul Coffey or Peter Forsberg - probably Forsberg ?
7. Bernie Federko
8. Ray Bourque
9. Brian Leetch
10.Teemu Selanne

11. Jarome Iginla in all likelihood. Any arguments ?

12. - Dave Gagner ? Gary Roberts ? Paul Reinhart ?


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02-09-2012, 12:15 AM
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Interesting idea, how far are you going to go with it?

Through the whole draft?

Anyway, Dionne over Park.

And Neely / Leetch is a no brainer, Cam was the best player in the NHL not named Bourque, Lemieux or Gretzky.


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I think we should go at least 30 since there are 30 teams right now.

Marian Hossa should be in contention for #12.
#13 possibilities: Craig Janney, Mattias Öhlund, J-S Giguere.
#14: Middleton, Propp, Calle Johansson, Gonchar
#15: Mike Bossy

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#16 is Andreychuk or Markus Naslund
#17 Bobby Clarke

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Interesting idea, how far are you going to go with it?

Through the whole draft?

Anyway, Dionne over Park.

And Neely / Leetch is a no brainer, Cam was the best player in the NHL not named Bourque, Lemieux or Gretzky.

I'm torn over Park and Dionne - that's a tough one. Originally I was going with Dionne, then Park seemed the popular choice. Hmmm.

And yeah probably go 30 picks. Wanted to do best player in the 2nd round, best 3rd round, etc after that but being that we're doing 30 picks for round one, we may have some guys that were 2nd round picks on the list already if they were drafted back when there was say 21 teams - if you guys know what I mean.

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I think we should go at least 30 since there are 30 teams right now.

Marian Hossa should be in contention for #12.
#13 possibilities: Craig Janney, Mattias Öhlund, J-S Giguere.
#14: Middleton, Propp, Calle Johansson, Gonchar
#15: Mike Bossy
Never even saw Hossa. As much as I would like my boy Dave Gagner at #12, probably go Hossa out of him, Gagner, Roberts, and Reinhart.

The #13 pick is a tough one.
#14 is too, though I'd lean towards Propp or Middleton.
#15 - Bossy or Sakic I would say. That one could be a close one.

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This thread might be useful:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=813189

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#16 is Andreychuk or Markus Naslund
#17 Bobby Clarke
I would say Andreychuk at #16 over Naslund, anyone else ?
#17 - Havent looked yet but Im betting there's nobody good enough to beat him out. Anyone ?

1. Mario Lemieux
2. Brad Park or Marcel Dionne
3. Denis Savard
4. Steve Yzerman
5. Jaromir Jagr
6. Paul Coffey or Peter Forsberg
7. Bernie Federko
8. Ray Bourque
9. Brian Leetch or Cam Neely
10.Teemu Selanne
11.Jarome Iginla
12.Marian Hossa
13.Craig Janney, Mattias Ohlund, J.S. Giguere
14.Rick Middleton, Brian Propp, Calle Johansson, Sergei Gonchar
15.Mike Bossy or Joe Sakic
16.Dave Andreychuk or Markus Naslund
17.Bobby Clarke

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Pick no. 18 has neither spawned any oustanding player nor a clear-cut frontrunner yet. I'd choose Petr Sykora over Glen Murray, Jason Smith, Brooks Orpik and Chris Stewart, because Sykora has the longest career of these players and was an important contributor on some very successful teams.

Edit: The website I found omitted the 1982 draft, where Ken Daneyko was picked 18th. He might have had a better career than Sykora.

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I would say Andreychuk at #16 over Naslund, anyone else ?
#17 - Havent looked yet but Im betting there's nobody good enough to beat him out. Anyone ?

1. Mario Lemieux
2. Brad Park or Marcel Dionne
3. Denis Savard
4. Steve Yzerman
5. Jaromir Jagr
6. Paul Coffey or Peter Forsberg
7. Bernie Federko
8. Ray Bourque
9. Brian Leetch or Cam Neely
10.Teemu Selanne
11.Jarome Iginla
12.Marian Hossa
13.Craig Janney, Mattias Ohlund, J.S. Giguere
14.Rick Middleton, Brian Propp, Calle Johansson, Sergei Gonchar
15.Mike Bossy or Joe Sakic
16.Dave Andreychuk or Markus Naslund
17.Bobby Clarke
Pick 9 = Brian Leetch period. The guy won 2 Norrises, Neely was never a 1st Team All Star.

Pick 13 is tough. I'd lean Giguere because of his playoff accolades.
Pick 14 is also tough. I would lean Middleton or Gonchar. Definitely Gonchar over Johansson by now right?
Pick 15 - I'd pick Sakic, but the majority would probably take Bossy. Leave it open between the two.
Pick 16 - interesting decision between peak and longevity

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good thread.
my two cents, so far, on the picks in question:
2. Dionne
6. Forsberg
9. Leetch
13. Giguere
14. Gonchar
15. Sakic
16..... ya, coin flipper for me, no help

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good thread.
my two cents, so far, on the picks in question:
2. Dionne
6. Forsberg9. Leetch
13. Giguere
14. Gonchar
15. Sakic
16..... ya, coin flipper for me, no help
Forsberg is a great player and would have most likley been the best player to ever be drafted at # 6 if not for Coffey.

Coffey has 4 Cups (was always a key on all 4 Cups), is considered by many as the second greatest offensive defenseman of all time and won 3 Norris trophies.

Forsberg in comparison is a "what could have been if not as injured" player. Forsberg never makes the list of any top 10 or top 5 lists (unless you talk about best European or Swedish players) while Coffey is a top 10 defenseman and as mentioned already the second best offensive defenseman to ever lace them up.

Coffey also owns the record for goals in a season by a defenseman .

He has 5 100 + Pts seasons under his belt, only Orr has more for a defenseman and is over PPG in the regular season and playoffs for his career.

I think it's safe to say Coffey had the better career and even possibly the better peak.

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