I knew of the Dixie Chicks. People were burning their CDs after that comment. Sure, not in Boston, but it was happening. And like I said, they apologized for their comments.
There were a steady stream of celebs taking shots at the CinC. The common defense was; what they were doing was patriotic by implementing their rights to freedom of speech and expression. Now the shoe is on the other foot, and liberals sound much like conservatives at the time. You even have KPD lecturing a/b the cold war and communism, respect for the office, blind loyalty. The hypocrisy is completely off the charts.
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As for Ali, I don't see how he and Thomas's situations are remotely comparable. Ali didn't want to go into the meat grinder that was Vietnam. Didn't think he should have to considering that just 10 years ago the same gov't telling him to go fight was telling him he had to drink out of a different water fountain than white folk.
Oh, they aren't even on the same planet. Until you get to the part where they were both maligned in the media b/c their beliefs weren't popular w/ the majority, or especially w/ those who were writing the articles. Ali was counted out before and after he was already run out of boxing (they said he had NO chance against Liston). Thomas was counted out a thousand times over before his career ever got started, and long before he uttered the (R) word. Both had a style that was distinctly their own. Both made everyone eat a BIG **** sandwich, especially the media. Why I like the analogy. Of course civil rights is far more profound than anything TT is complaining a/b. Duh.
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Tim Thomas hasn't faced anything remotely like that in his life and never will. Which is why I find the comparison not fitting at all.
Nor should he, nor should Ali or anyone like him ever have. Ali should have never had his title taken, either. He should have been able to fight Frazier in his prime. Instead he was robbed along w/ boxing history. Don't repeat the mistake w/ Tim Thomas, and the prime he has left, robbing Bruins fans. Unless you want to go back to being a city of losers instead of a city of champions. Because like it or not, that's what he is, that's what he made the Bruins. We...will...be...a...laughing...stock. Far, far above and beyond montreal and their english speaking coach.
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I'm not angry, and you might not have laid out your entire set of political beliefs, but they're apparent in each post, which is fine. I'm just saying- don't tell me and others that we're letting our politics affect our points of view (which is probably true of all of us) when it's apparent the same is happening with you.
It really isn't, I could care less what TT's beliefs are. Why is it even relevant? Who cares? He's the best "crazy" goalie we've ever had, leave it at that. Com'on, I've never seen these forums so angry. Psssst...meanwhile, we just won the Stanley Cup! We're poised to win another one. We're at he top of the mountain after 39 years, and now we're concerned w/ politics? Really? Hello?? Also, I'm old enough to know if you go through life worrying a/b where everyone is politically, you're going to be MISERABLE. That, and we'll have John Kerry (D) playing goalie for the Bruins. Awesome.
People are quick to say "this is a huge distraction to the team!" But I just don't see it. It's a distraction to some fans here and there but I cannot for the life of me see how it would be distracting to the players. They already know and have known about Thomas' views long before their Cup win.. didn't seem like a distraction then.
And I lol'd when people actually pointed to the White House snub as a reason for their slumping. I straight up guffawed.
It's beyond awesome. I don't agree with his views, but this whole debacle has been the peak of comedy for a long long time to me. It's a distraction alright, but only for the media cuz Timmy won't stop being a big meanie face and answer their questions. boo hoo
Obama had to compromise today on the issue Thomas brought up because he was taking heat from both sides of the aisle. Not exactly an extreme view.
Pretty much this...
This is why it's hilarious:
A) Really hasn't said anything extreme or that should get special attention.
B) Team all knew what Timmy was like and none of them cared. All say he's still well liked and a great guy in the locker room.
C) Just the idea that no one knew that a guy whose idea of a good time is hunting large mammals with 10,000 year old technology, whose talisman is an American quarter, and who grew a Ron Swanson-esque mustache might not see eye to eye with hipsters from the people's republic of Cambridge is mind blowing. Seriously, no one in the media had any idea?!?
D) People are getting excited over FACEBOOK posts. People that have graduated from HS and pay bills shouldn't be sweating anything on facebook. When he sets a perimeter around his house and succeeds from Massachusetts, it might be time to say something. Till then, there's actual hockey stuff that I'd like to hear about.
It's beyond awesome. I don't agree with his views, but this whole debacle has been the peak of comedy for a long long time to me. It's a distraction alright, but only for the media cuz Timmy won't stop being a big meanie face and answer their questions. boo hoo
I am more along the line with Thomas than not.... and I find it hilarious as well.
But my loyalty to the Red Sox never faltered even though the owner and GM were openly campaigning for John Kerry and Theo skipped out on the whitehouse. Where was the media and their tough questions then?
I am more along the line with Thomas than not.... and I find it hilarious as well.
But my loyalty to the Red Sox never faltered even though the owner and GM were openly campaigning for John Kerry and Theo skipped out on the whitehouse. Where was the media and their tough questions then?
I am with you on the Theo thing and I think him compared to Tim is that it just exposes that the media pushes their political sidings by complaining or not complaining about it.
I am more along the line with Thomas than not.... and I find it hilarious as well.
But my loyalty to the Red Sox never faltered even though the owner and GM were openly campaigning for John Kerry and Theo skipped out on the whitehouse. Where was the media and their tough questions then?
As many know, I have a huge bias on the issue because of the situation I'm in with trying to have children. Everyone has their opinions, as does Thomas, but I don't put their character into question for it or detest them for not wanting to discuss it.
Tim Thomas has his beliefs, that's all they are. He isn't out there missing practices because of his beliefs. Until he starts breaking laws I really don't care what he does off the ice...much like I'm sure nobody cared when Theo skipped the WH.
Timmy is paid to stop pucks. Not to talk to the media.
I am with you on the Theo thing and I think him compared to Tim is that it just exposes that the media pushes their political sidings by complaining or not complaining about it.
They really are the swing vote as the voice (or lack thereof) of the fans, unfortunately.
How is Tim Thomas any more of a locker room distraction than Tim Tebow? Both of their teammates have to field questions about their personal beliefs, but one of them aggressively incorporates those beliefs into everything he ever does and says and the other just mentioned his on facebook a couple times.
Pretty much this...
This is why it's hilarious:
A) Really hasn't said anything extreme or that should get special attention.
B) Team all knew what Timmy was like and none of them cared. All say he's still well liked and a great guy in the locker room.
C) Just the idea that no one knew that a guy whose idea of a good time is hunting large mammals with 10,000 year old technology, whose talisman is an American quarter, and who grew a Ron Swanson-esque mustache might not see eye to eye with hipsters from the people's republic of Cambridge is mind blowing. Seriously, no one in the media had any idea?!?
D) People are getting excited over FACEBOOK posts. People that have graduated from HS and pay bills shouldn't be sweating anything on facebook. When he sets a perimeter around his house and succeeds from Massachusetts, it might be time to say something. Till then, there's actual hockey stuff that I'd like to hear about.
I don't have a problem with what he wrote. I have an issue with him not sticking up for his views when asked.
Anyone who's listened to Felger or the morning show over the past few days are saying the same thing.
You're a public figure who made some comments in a public arena, don't think you can simply say that's my personal life when asked.
I don't have a problem with what he wrote. I have an issue with him not sticking up for his views when asked.
Anyone who's listened to Felger or the morning show over the past few days are saying the same thing.
You're a public figure who made some comments in a public arena, don't think you can simply say that's my personal life when asked.
And I understand why the media is getting pissy because it makes their jobs difficult.
But this assumption that the fans give a **** about him not answering questions is what is pissing me off. I don't give a ****, the same way I don't care if a player skips out on the media. A player talking to the media after a loss does not make it go away or make it feel any better.
And I understand why the media is getting pissy because it makes their jobs difficult.
But this assumption that the fans give a **** about him not answering questions is what is pissing me off. I don't give a ****, the same way I don't care if a player skips out on the media. A player talking to the media after a loss does not make it go away or make it feel any better.
Unfortunately, the radio hosts with the call screeners and microphones get final say. They can beat a subject to death for weeks (ie: Superbowl) without taking a single call if they so choose. Then when someone complains "why are you talking about this crap?" all they need to do is find ONE jackass to pile on and agree with them so they can retort, "See, callers wanna talk about it!"
Why is a sports "writer" asking political questions though? At the rink?
I'm pretty sure F&M looked into this and determined that the female reporter who asked the first few questions was actually a news reporter, not a "sports reporter".
Unfortunately, the radio hosts with the call screeners and microphones get final say. They can beat a subject to death for weeks (ie: Superbowl) without taking a single call if they so choose. Then when someone complains "why are you talking about this crap?" all they need to do is find ONE jackass to pile on and agree with them so they can retort, "See, callers wanna talk about it!"
I consider myself a man ahead of his time. Unfortunately it is only about an hour and a half.
That could work out quite nicely though. Since it's 6pm for you, If you could give me a traffic report for 24 and 128 as of 530 that would be phenomenal.
I'm pretty sure F&M looked into this and determined that the female reporter who asked the first few questions was actually a news reporter, not a "sports reporter".
So why was Thomas' posts on facespace not dissected earlier in the year, say in October or November?
Anyways 98.5 has become what everyone feared, at least in my eyes. Only talk hockey when their is a "controversy". I'm still baffled how talking about the team in November and December would have be "boring". Then again when your hockey knowledge relies on a guy looking up things on a computer for you, I can see why one would tend to ignore it.
Unfortunately, the radio hosts with the call screeners and microphones get final say. They can beat a subject to death for weeks (ie: Superbowl) without taking a single call if they so choose. Then when someone complains "why are you talking about this crap?" all they need to do is find ONE jackass to pile on and agree with them so they can retort, "See, callers wanna talk about it!"
exactly. Its almost like you have to lie to them to get them to take your call. If you called in and said "I wanna talk abuot how selfish thomas is" they would let you on. All people have to do is read all the comments listed on TT's facebook page, globe, csnne, etc and see the overwelming majority could give a **** about this. Fans are actually pissed about how moronic the media personalities are being.
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So why was Thomas' posts on facespace not dissected earlier in the year, say in October or November?
Anyways 98.5 has become what everyone feared, at least in my eyes. Only talk hockey when their is a "controversy". I'm still baffled how talking about the team in November and December would have be "boring". Then again when your hockey knowledge relies on a guy looking up things on a computer for you, I can see why one would tend to ignore it.
Shhhhhhh. At least they talk more than the other guys (dont you love that answer? Like thats actually hard to do). You have to understand, we should just be patient, they might talk about hockey during the playoffs
Because Thomas continues to make public political statements, which are widely disseminated due to his fame as a Bruins goalie, and because news reporters build their careers on getting quotes from people however they can, regardless of the setting.
Because Thomas continues to make public political statements, which are widely disseminated due to his fame as a Bruins goalie, and because news reporters build their careers on getting quotes from people however they can, regardless of the setting.
Well hopefully this will help at least one news reporter (not) build their career.
Well done sir.
