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02-10-2012, 12:39 PM
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A 3 year plan.

Been listening to the Team this morning, and they had Dean Brown on and he started to talk about the organization's plans and the deadline.

He basically says that The Murrays, Dorion and Melnyk all agree that its a 3 year plan, and if a trade were to happen at the deadline it is not just for a rental, it has to be part of the 3 year plan that could help the team down the line to get it back as a Stanley Cup contender and not just to beef up for this year's playoffs.

Its up on here http://www.facebook.com/TEAM1200

Around the 16 minute mark he talks about it.

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- Anderson has 3 years left on his deal
- Murray was saying Alfie has 3 or 4 years left in him recently
- Spezza has 3 years left on his contract
- Michalek 2 years
- NO ONE IN THE ORGANIZATION is signed for more than the next 3 seasons.

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I think most people could've anticipated it was a 3 year rebuild based on Andy's contract.

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glad to hear this. Hope it's not just a pure "tank and high picks" strategy though. Tanking sucks and the picks often don't turn out. I like the Turris deal and wouldn't mind seeing the team try to turn some picks into good safer long-term pieces a bit further along in their development.

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glad to hear this. Hope it's not just a pure "tank and high picks" strategy though. Tanking sucks and the picks often don't turn out. I like the Turris deal and wouldn't mind seeing the team try to turn some picks into good safer long-term pieces a bit further along in their development.
I don't think that is the 3 year plan at all!!!!!

It is year 1 next year... make playoffs try to do some damage
Year 2 - Borderline Elite - playoffs with home ice hopefully
Year 3 - Elite top 5 NHL team - compete for Cup as one of favourites.

It is not a 3 year tank plan it is a 3 year winning plan.

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I'm pretty sure we were always with the line of thinking that it was a 3-4 year rebuild, but it's nice to hear these quotes to keep down all the crazy proposals around here.

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But we're going to have to sign Parise to a contract longer than 3 years.

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glad to hear this. Hope it's not just a pure "tank and high picks" strategy though. Tanking sucks and the picks often don't turn out. I like the Turris deal and wouldn't mind seeing the team try to turn some picks into good safer long-term pieces a bit further along in their development.


I think it's safe to say that there's more than "Hope" on your side...

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I'm pretty sure we were always with the line of thinking that it was a 3-4 year rebuild, but it's nice to hear these quotes to keep down all the crazy proposals around here.
And the dumb comments about how Murray is going to sell the future for another rental blahahah blahaha hopefully would die down.

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And the dumb comments about how Murray is going to sell the future for another rental blahahah blahaha hopefully would die down.
You are assuming that facts and information mean much to most of the people who post those ridiculous comments though.

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glad to hear this. Hope it's not just a pure "tank and high picks" strategy though. Tanking sucks and the picks often don't turn out. I like the Turris deal and wouldn't mind seeing the team try to turn some picks into good safer long-term pieces a bit further along in their development.
I don't know if you been living under a rock this season but the team is not in the lottery pick position, closer to a playoff team than a lottery, we already had our tanking and that was last year. Our rebuild has started in 2008 with good drafting and we have way less holes to fill than the teams that are in the lottery position. We have a #1 and a #2 Center, we have a #1 dman, and have a #1 goalie. Those are the biggest holes that lottery teams try to find and we already have them, we just need some wingers, and some secondary top 4 dman with a backup.

This year is to get close or make playoffs. 10-7 position in the east
Next year with all of the talent coming up is to make the playoffs 4-6 position in the east.
Year 3, the goal is to be one of the top in the east.

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This makes sense as it will take another 2 years until the best of our barn load of prospects can start making an impact in the league (Silfverberg, Zibanejad, Stone, Prince, Puempel, Noesen, Lehner etc. etc. ) & we should expect to become competetive.

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You can't tank and rebuild a team in just 3 years, just look at the mess known as the Edmonton Oilers...


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I had no idea that the mood had gotten so positive around here. What gives?

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I hope that Murray does make a deal at the deadline to add a good top 6 forward in his prime. Hemsky is looking better & better since a number of other possibilities have either been taken off the market or are too expensive. This would put the Sens another step closer to achieving their goals. It would be great to get in on Parise but I'm just not sure he would come to Ottawa when he could go to a team that is much closer to winning a cup like the Rangers/Philly. One of the concerns I do have however is that it's likely that Ottawa will lose some toughness at the end of this season if Konopka, Carkner, Winchester & Daugavins are all out of a job in Ottawa.

While adding skill is great I would like to see more balance, it's no secret that since Ottawa was tougher this yr we also won a lot more games then we were suppose to. Not sure if the two go hand in hand but it sure seemed like it to me this yr, we weren't pushed around by any team. I would also like to see Murray add a good young tough UFA defenceman this summer as a Kuba replacement (Grossman) if indeed Kuba is not re-signed hopefully the best one he can, he does have the cap space. That would be two good peices along with whoever we draft in the 1st rd for down the road plus our own prospects when they are NHL ready. I would expect him to do the exact same thing each of the next few yrsl. Not sure if Alfredsson will play beyond next season though, but you never know.

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I had no idea that the mood had gotten so positive around here. What gives?
That same positive people that were telling people not to panic during this skid and the same people who said we aren't going to be a lottery team before this season started.

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Anyone not think it was a 3 year plan?

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We have the cap space and one of the top 3 or 4 elite playmaking centers in the league. We are going to sign Parise. I promise you

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sounds to me like it's simply managing people's expectations. with the "success" we've had this year, it's real easy to start thinking "win now". even though most of us here already knew it was a 3-year plan, i'm glad that management is reassuring us.

If a deadline deal does happen, what kind of move would it be to actually compliment this 3-year plan?

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We have the cap space and one of the top 3 or 4 elite playmaking centers in the league. We are going to sign Parise. I promise you
Turris?

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sounds to me like it's simply managing people's expectations. with the "success" we've had this year, it's real easy to start thinking "win now". even though most of us here already knew it was a 3-year plan, i'm glad that management is reassuring us.

If a deadline deal does happen, what kind of move would it be to actually compliment this 3-year plan?
Give up minor assets for a bottom pair D-Man and/or a veteran 4th line centre. (Only for this season.. no significant futures are moved)

Move a decent prospect but not one of the top ones and a significant draft pick (next years first or second?) for a better UFA rental like say Hemsky (as a forward) or a top 4 D-Man and make a BIG effort to resign him. Or make a move like that for an established top 6 forward/top 4 defenceman with a year or two left on his deal.

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What the hell? Giving up a 1st for a UFA does not fit the idea of a 3 year rebuild...

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sounds to me like it's simply managing people's expectations. with the "success" we've had this year, it's real easy to start thinking "win now". even though most of us here already knew it was a 3-year plan, i'm glad that management is reassuring us.

If a deadline deal does happen, what kind of move would it be to actually compliment this 3-year plan?
Deadline or during the summer, it doesn't really matter for us. We should move only to fill the upcoming holes in defense.

And maybe trying to upgrade the top 6 Foward with a 22-25 year old if a team is willing to trade one of theirs before the playoffs? I don't think it's very likely; But I could see Kuba or Gonchar (my preference) being traded for a good prospect (forward or defense).

I don't think we need more picks unless they will be used to move up in the draft.


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What the hell? Giving up a 1st for a UFA does not fit the idea of a 3 year rebuild...
Only do that IF... they see that they are very likely to resign him. And only the 2013 1st not this years. Just my opinion.

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