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02-11-2013, 09:57 PM
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Scheifele vs Zibenajad

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02-11-2013, 09:59 PM
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At minimum, Zibanejad wins in the strength on skates department.

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At minimum, Zibanejad wins in the strength on skates department.
Definitely. Scheifele reminds me of Kadri when he was 18. Just couldn't stay on his feet and was falling everywhere.

And Zibanejad is in the NHL and Scheifele isn't right now, soooo....

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Definitely. Scheifele reminds me of Kadri when he was 18. Just couldn't stay on his feet and was falling everywhere.

And Zibanejad is in the NHL and Scheifele isn't right now, soooo....
To be fair, Zibenajad got sent back to the AHL too, the only reason he's back in is due the Sens forward corps being plagued by injuries.

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02-11-2013, 10:13 PM
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Agree with the above posts, Scheifele is really weak on his feet. Haven't seen enough of Zibanejad to comment accurately on him (although I was very high on him during his draft year) but am not at all impressed with Scheifele thus far.

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02-12-2013, 01:11 AM
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Physically Mika is more ready, he's bigger and stronger. But they're both 19 give them some time.

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02-12-2013, 01:20 AM
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Agree with the above posts, Scheifele is really weak on his feet. Haven't seen enough of Zibanejad to comment accurately on him (although I was very high on him during his draft year) but am not at all impressed with Scheifele thus far.
It's hard not to be impressed by Scheifele's numbers in the OHL (26-29-55 in 33gp) and in the World Juniors (5-3-8 6gp) this year.

As for Zibanejad, I've tempered my expectations of him a bit but still think he could be a solid 2nd - 3rd line center. The only question mark is his offensive game as he has yet to put up any "big" numbers in the past few years.

Right now, it is unfair to make a comparison on who is better, but I believe Sheifele has a touch more offensive upside while Zibanejad may ultimately become a better shut-down or two-way centre.

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02-12-2013, 01:33 AM
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Zibanejad is atleast averaging more than 2 shots on goal a game

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02-12-2013, 06:30 AM
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Based on physical tools it's Zibenajad. I think his offensive ceiling is lower, but his physicality allows for more versatility within an NHL lineup.

Scheifele needs a lot of work on his balance, but he has improved his skating since being drafted, so he's shown he can improve when he's put the work in.

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Long Term -- Scheifele > zibi

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As a Jet fan I'm disapointed to say Zibenajad. Scheifele has a long way to go yet but I think he will still reach a respectable 2nd line centre.

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02-12-2013, 04:28 PM
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From what I remember from the draft, both players were kind of "off the board" picks, but in different ways.

Scheifele was expected to be a project who had high end, 1st line, potential, but he was expected to go in the middle of the 1st round because of some concerns about his skating and overall skillset. He was drafted a little earlier than expected, but has shown some good signs since being drafted. Again, from what I remember, it was kind of always expected that he would take a while to make it as an NHL regular, so he's on track, it's just that he hasn't exceeded expectations either. Nothing to worry about.

Meanwhile Z-Bad was a late season riser with dubious 1st line potential, but a very high basement who was expected to end up playing on a 2nd/3rd line as a winger even if he didn't "pan out" as a two-way 1st line player. Since the draft he's shown some good flashes and Sens management has loved what his work ethic, skating, drive, shot, and two-way play. He hasn't exceeded expectations either and he's suffered some minor injuries which is a little worrisome, but he's already in the NHL and doesn't look out of place. Again, nothing to worry about, but nothing to be overly excited about either

So far, so good for both teams. We'll have to see again in another year.

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Well I'm a little biased, but this Sens fan is really, really liking the way Zibanejad has been playing. The offence hasn't clicked yet, but he's fast, strong, and he's playing well. Scheifele has been looking good but he also isn't in the leaugue yet. I'm going Zib.

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02-12-2013, 04:44 PM
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Zibanejad.

I'd like to see him become more involved in the offense, but he's a big, fast and skilled player that is just scratching the surface of his potential.

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From what I remember from the draft, both players were kind of "off the board" picks, but in different ways.

Scheifele was expected to be a project who had high end, 1st line, potential, but he was expected to go in the middle of the 1st round because of some concerns about his skating and overall skillset. He was drafted a little earlier than expected, but has shown some good signs since being drafted. Again, from what I remember, it was kind of always expected that he would take a while to make it as an NHL regular, so he's on track, it's just that he hasn't exceeded expectations either. Nothing to worry about.

Meanwhile Z-Bad was a late season riser with dubious 1st line potential, but a very high basement who was expected to end up playing on a 2nd/3rd line as a winger even if he didn't "pan out" as a two-way 1st line player. Since the draft he's shown some good flashes and Sens management has loved what his work ethic, skating, drive, shot, and two-way play. He hasn't exceeded expectations either and he's suffered some minor injuries which is a little worrisome, but he's already in the NHL and doesn't look out of place. Again, nothing to worry about, but nothing to be overly excited about either

So far, so good for both teams. We'll have to see again in another year.
This +1

I'd much rather have both
I guess Jets' thought they had that two-way C in Burmistrov.
And no mater which one were in the NHL right now whether that be Z, Scheif, both or neither, wouldn't really change my perspective.

I'd correct that the some of the last expectations had more 10-15 range (Future Considerations 13, The Scouting Report 10, TSN 12), but "off the board" still is off the board.

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02-12-2013, 06:36 PM
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It's hard not to be impressed by Scheifele's numbers in the OHL (26-29-55 in 33gp) and in the World Juniors (5-3-8 6gp) this year.

As for Zibanejad, I've tempered my expectations of him a bit but still think he could be a solid 2nd - 3rd line center. The only question mark is his offensive game as he has yet to put up any "big" numbers in the past few years.

Right now, it is unfair to make a comparison on who is better, but I believe Sheifele has a touchx more offensive upside while Zibanejad may ultimately become a better shut-down or two-way centre.
Can't really compare Scheifele's great junior stats with Zibanejad's production so far. Mika has been playing against men since he was 17.

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02-12-2013, 08:24 PM
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Zibanejad must have the best one timer of anyone under 20 years old...did you see that tonight?

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Zibanejad must have the best one timer of anyone under 20 years old...did you see that tonight?

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That title goes to yaks.
anyways i would rather have Scheifele, great player and i am positive next year is when he shows everybody what he is made of.

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Zibanejad, Scheifele was a bit of a reach and I don't think he has done enough to pass Zibanejad.

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I don't understand why people say Zibanejad is power forward. He isn't that big, funny skating style, and not that physical. I think he'll be good, but similar to a Michalek, not a Scott Hartnell. I think he'll be a really good player to have in the playoffs though.

I haven't been high on Scheifele since he was drafted. I watched a lot of Barrie, and nothing seems special about him. I think Boone Jenner is much better and will be better in the NHL. Just don't think he has the 'it' factor to produce at this level.

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Zibanejad for me

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02-12-2013, 11:48 PM
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Well, I guess if this is an "Ottawa" point of view thread, OK. Is there a Wpg Jet point of few thread?

What I mean is - is there a Scheifele vs Couturier thread? As the (at beginning of season) #1 overall prospect was still available at #7 and went directly into the NHL and stayed, while the Jets took Scheifele off the board.

To me, I don't care about Zibenajad as he was gone already (from a Jets perspective) - though I was hoping Strome, was not expecting Couturier to still be there and he was, and we took Scheifele. I remember Holmgren almost running to the stage to pick Couturier - and I can't blame him.

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