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02-20-2012, 12:53 AM
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it counts into the burn off a year...


but I'd rather burn off a year and win than lose without giving him a try - if there is no upgrade at the TD possible

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Who does Saad replace? He didn't do much when he was up. He's a teenager guys, not many of those guys come up and contribute on playoff teams.

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I'd bring up Saad for sure. As far as the people thinking playoff games do not count, they absolutely do, P.K. Subban is an example.

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Playing a kid fresh out of juniors in the playoffs is nothing short of desperation.

With PK Subban again being a perfect example. Montreal was way overmatched by the time they called him up.

IIRC the series was 3-1 Washington at the time.

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Who does Saad replace? He didn't do much when he was up. He's a teenager guys, not many of those guys come up and contribute on playoff teams.
True, but if we don't grab someone before TD, it wouldn't hurt to give him a few more games to see how he fares (I think he has only played 2 games in the regular season). He has a few to go before he hits 10. Right now our top 6 are top heavy, to put it politely.

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True, but if we don't grab someone before TD, it wouldn't hurt to give him a few more games to see how he fares (I think he has only played 2 games in the regular season). He has a few to go before he hits 10. Right now our top 6 are top heavy, to put it politely.
I'd rather give Morin another look before Saad. Either of them though, if they do get their look, need to at least be up for 4-5 games, not this 1-2 and done nonsense.

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Playing a kid fresh out of juniors in the playoffs is nothing short of desperation.

With PK Subban again being a perfect example. Montreal was way overmatched by the time they called him up.

IIRC the series was 3-1 Washington at the time.
Subban had a good playoffs though.

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Subban had a good playoffs though.
That he did.

It CAN be a good move, but I doubt Subban would've been given that chance had it not been such a David-Goliath match up.

If that happens to the Hawks, I expect them to be Goliath, not David.

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Was at the Majors/Wolves game today.

I've been really impressed by Mattsson this year. He's a quality goaltender. He gets himself in good position to cut off the angles for shooters and he really controls his rebounds well. Anything in the chest, he's able to corral and he generally kicks out low shots to the corner. He absolutely could not be faulted for the goals scored against him in the game. One was a deft deflection in front of the crease. The second a bang/bang play from behind the net where his defenseman left a Major wide open in front of the net. The third, he made a tremendous toe save on a partial breakaway, but none of his defenseman took the trailer on the play who cleaned up the rebound to the top shelf. While he took the loss, he stopped 35 of 38 and was impressive.

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Thanks for the info on Mattsson Brock. Everytime I try to catch a Sudbury game Mattsson either isn't playing or the EastLink broadcast is crap.

As far as Saad.. like I said, I think he could help the team. He easily replaces Brunette and could fit in anywhere in the top-9, IMO. Obviously, whether you think he can help the team or not, it's unlikely he gets brought up and dropped into the playoff line-up..

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K. Hayes article 2-21-2012

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I'm gonna go ahead and admit that when it comes to the AHL/Juniors and our crop of prospects I never ever keep up with how they're playing and can't give any sort of logical assessment of their skill set. Thusly for you armchair experts, I have some questions:

Jeremy Morin: What's the story? I know he had concussion problems and didn't exactly rock the world any of the times he's been briefly called up, but what's holding him back? How much more time does he need? Does he translate into a 2013/2014 piece of the puzzle or sooner?

Kyle Beach: I've always regarded Beach as a "crap or get off the pot" prospect who seems to be forever mired in the AHL. I'd just like some thoughts as to if he has any future beyond his current existence.

Brandon Saad: He's been the hot story, but where does he project next year? Does his year in the juniors merit banking on him to be a 3rd/4th line impact guy?

Mark McNeill: How's he been doing? I haven't heard much at all about him. Has there been a good/bad on him yet or is he just staying under the radar?

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they will all fight for a Roster Spot. 1 will get Brunos Spot.

Beach had his problems but he turned around and finally got it. Morin, never really saw the big deal with him due to his skating. Not as bad as said, but not good enough to become the player we hope him to be

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Jeremy Morin is 20 years old. Give the kid time - not everybody is a superstar at a young age like Marcus Kruger

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I give him time, I also never said something like trade him for whatever. I just don't think he will be anything special or a Top6 Player/Goalscorer

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Jeremy Morin is 20 years old. Give the kid time - not everybody is a superstar at a young age like Marcus Kruger
I still like Morin a lot. Morin and Saad might not be blue chip prospects, but they are just a small notch below.

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I still like Morin a lot. Morin and Saad might not be blue chip prospects, but they are just a small notch below.
I agree, I can see Saad being next to Toews and Kane, or being on 2nd line with Hossa. Morin could be next to bolland or go up with Toews and Kane as well, never know.

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What really surprises me about that article is hearing that the Hawks have guys come talk to him every week.

I can't say I'm an expert on how teams develop prospects, but I never really thought that they sent scouts around as often as once a week. Do other teams do that?

In this case, the scouts and BC's coaches seem to be in agreement, but I wonder how other coaching staffs feel about it.

I have faith in Kayes. I don't think he'll be amazing, and I highly doubt he ever lives up to his draft position, but looking at all of the guys who have been coming out of the Eagles program lately, they've all looked pretty solid in the pros.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_...ent_NHL_Eagles

They seem to know what they're doing when it comes to developing good hockey players.

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Not sure if they do this with every prospect, but earlier in the year there were reports that Kayes, Olsen and Saad are our untouchable prospects

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Hey guys, can you tell me something about Kevin Hayes? How is he doing and when is he expected to go pro?

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He's doing fine and learns how to play the game. He works on his skating and D. Already topped his point totals from last year.

He won't make it to the NHL before the 13-14 season for sure. I think he will play his first NHL game in 14-15

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Looks like Klas Dahlbeck is coming over next season.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=13266

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Looks like Klas Dahlbeck is coming over next season.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=13266
Very interesting, have him come over after Segal and Cons left??

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I'm gonna go ahead and admit that when it comes to the AHL/Juniors and our crop of prospects I never ever keep up with how they're playing and can't give any sort of logical assessment of their skill set. Thusly for you armchair experts, I have some questions:

Jeremy Morin: What's the story? I know he had concussion problems and didn't exactly rock the world any of the times he's been briefly called up, but what's holding him back? How much more time does he need? Does he translate into a 2013/2014 piece of the puzzle or sooner?

Kyle Beach: I've always regarded Beach as a "crap or get off the pot" prospect who seems to be forever mired in the AHL. I'd just like some thoughts as to if he has any future beyond his current existence.

Brandon Saad: He's been the hot story, but where does he project next year? Does his year in the juniors merit banking on him to be a 3rd/4th line impact guy?

Mark McNeill: How's he been doing? I haven't heard much at all about him. Has there been a good/bad on him yet or is he just staying under the radar?
This was gonna be his 2nd year in the AHL

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Looks like Klas Dahlbeck is coming over next season.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=13266
have you seen him play this year? tell me how he's doing.


and from what I understand in the article, he wants to have a chance to make the Hawks and he already said it to their GM - he hopes that he stays and the GM also said that he plays good with consitency.

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