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02-13-2012, 06:16 PM
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LA-MTL and LA-PITT

to LA: Moen

to MTL: Stoll

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to PITT: Penner
to LA: 5th rounder in 2013 and Conditional 2nd round pick in 2012 draft if Penguins win the Stanley Cup



LA-MTL : Canadians get a serviceable center that will help them down the middle. LA gets a mean veteran that can provide toughness on the 3rd line with Loktionov and Clifford.

LA-PITT : LA gets draft picks for a player that doesnt fit their system and or roster. Pitt gets a guy who when given room to do his thing is capable of providing 2nd line depth. With Malkin or as close to God on the ice you could get (Crosby) Penncakes could provide some depth in the playoffs for another obvious cup run.

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02-13-2012, 06:19 PM
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Yep, Our centers : Plekanec, Leblanc, Desharnais, Eller, Gomez and white..

We sure need a freaking center.

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02-13-2012, 06:19 PM
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Pittsburgh is not going to take on Penner. His cap hit is too much when we need room to resign some key players. Not only that, but we could get better on the FA or with smaller deals that would have a bigger impact on our team.

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02-13-2012, 06:20 PM
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Deal on the 1st but I have a feeling some team will be dumb enough to give a higher pick for that scrub muffin named Penner. But I'd take it cause Penner sucks and Dean is good in late rounds.

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Habs would rather get a pick for Moen than trade for Stoll. Why would Montreal do this when they are / will be sellers at the TDL?

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02-13-2012, 06:23 PM
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Its gonna take Penner + 1st to get a 5th from Pittsburgh...in all seriousness...

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02-13-2012, 06:25 PM
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Its gonna take Penner + 1st to get a 5th from Pittsburgh...in all seriousness...
Don't be ridiculous. Penner has an expiring contract and some team may be interested in acquiring him in the hopes that he turns his game around with a fresh start. He has low value (4th or 5th round pick) not negative value.

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02-13-2012, 06:26 PM
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Pittsburgh is not going to take on Penner. His cap hit is too much when we need room to resign some key players. Not only that, but we could get better on the FA or with smaller deals that would have a bigger impact on our team.
he's a UFA after this season...

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02-13-2012, 06:26 PM
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Pass on Stoll. Pleks, Eller and Desharnais bring more to the table and White is ready to come back. Leblanc can also play center. Plus we still have "1 goal" Gomez. If Moen goes anywhere, it'll be for futures.

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02-13-2012, 06:29 PM
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Pittsburgh is not going to take on Penner. His cap hit is too much when we need room to resign some key players. Not only that, but we could get better on the FA or with smaller deals that would have a bigger impact on our team.
He has an expiring contract, he wouldn't get in the way of any re-signings.

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Penner would be 400lbs by the end of the year eating pierogis and Primanti Bros in Pittsburgh.

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02-13-2012, 06:33 PM
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he's a UFA after this season...
Cap hit would still be a problem as if we did sign him I think there's a chance we might not be able to move Crosby off LTIR unless we move some cap space. It just doesn't work for us.

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Pittsburgh is not going to take on Penner. His cap hit is too much when we need room to resign some key players. Not only that, but we could get better on the FA or with smaller deals that would have a bigger impact on our team.
Penner is not signed past this season and you are getting him for basically nothing?

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Penner is not signed past this season and you are getting him for basically nothing?
We don't have the cap space unless Crosby is on LTIR until the playoffs start.

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Cap hit would still be a problem as if we did sign him I think there's a chance we might not be able to move Crosby off LTIR unless we move some cap space. It just doesn't work for us.
Crosby has already missed half the season plus which means half of his cap hit would be reduced this season Penner makes 4.5 you guys would be clear capwise if the trade was made today.

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Crosby has already missed half the season plus which means half of his cap hit would be reduced this season Penner makes 4.5 you guys would be clear capwise if the trade was made today.
I still wouldn't want him. He just isn't a good enough player us. We'd be looking for a top 6 player to fill in the Kunitz role.

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Crosby has already missed half the season plus which means half of his cap hit would be reduced this season Penner makes 4.5 you guys would be clear capwise if the trade was made today.
That's not how LTIR works. You can only go over the cap by the player's amount while he's on LTIR. The second Crosby is back in the line-up his cap hit returns, nothing is banked.

For the record, Crosby is not on LTIR right now, just regular IR since there's no advantage to putting him on LTIR right now.


And the Penguins need guys who are going to contribute; not sit in the press box wasting cap space.

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Dustin Penner is not worth a 5th rounder, I'd rather the Pens held on to that 5th instead of getting a lazy player like him. The conditional stuff, lol. The Kings should be sending a 1st to the Pens just for getting rid of him even if he is a UFA at the end of the year.


Dustin Penner sucks, people said it before and they were scoffed at.

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02-13-2012, 07:48 PM
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Just stupid in all seriousness!
Stupid was GMDL trading for him in the first place. I don't know what you would call what the Kings gave up for him, what's the next step after stupid?

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02-13-2012, 07:59 PM
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Why does Montreal want to rent Stoll for a couple months of playing out the string? Seriously, what is in it for them?

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Could be truth to LA wanting Kostitsyn or Moen. Don't know what Mtls needs are tho.

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Could be truth to LA wanting Kostitsyn or Moen. Don't know what Mtls needs are tho.
LA should target Alex Semin.

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02-13-2012, 10:38 PM
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Yeah, per the rest of Habdom, I don't see the point in trading Moen or Kostitsyn for an impending UFA. If selling is to occur, it's probably for futures, per the standard recipes.

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Penner to the Pens is pretty hilarious. I mean let's be reality here: I kinda liked his game at one point in the past but the fact is the guy is just incredibly lazy and could care less about the team. Plus we can't afford to add him. Proposals being locked because people don't take 5 seconds to check CapGeek isn't a bad idea IMO. Not that it'll ever happen.

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