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02-18-2012, 07:38 PM
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They're relevant if you're convinced Homer is dumb like I am.
Howson thought him dumb too....

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I have a theory about all this nash to flyers stuff.

I think the Rangers are intrested and Howson and Holmgren are using one another to help drive that price up for the Rangers. All this face to face time could make a GM panic.

Just a theory.

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I have a theory about all this nash to flyers stuff.

I think the Rangers are intrested and Howson and Holmgren are using one another to help drive that price up for the Rangers. All this face to face time could make a GM panic.

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Howson thought him dumb too....
So did Steve Yzerman.

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I do believe there is some jockeying going on definitely. If we can influence how much the Rangers have to give up for Nash in someway it's not such a bad thing. It's good tactics considering how much of a rival the Rangers are...if they got Nash it would make them that much harder to beat but you hope they thin themselves out a bit and that it disturbs chemistry...

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We all have to remember that our GM takes orders from Uncle Ed. And we know Uncle wants two things, another cup before he dies and star power. Anytime he can acquire a star player like Rick Nash, then the Flyers will be at least involved in the discussions.

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We all have to remember that our GM takes orders from Uncle Ed. And we know Uncle wants two things, another cup before he dies and star power. Anytime he can acquire a star player like Rick Nash, then the Flyers will be at least involved in the discussions.
True..in line with the Stamkos consideration this past summer

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So did Steve Yzerman.
When did Yzerman fleece us?

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JVR shouldn't go anywhere, and especially not for Rick Nash. I am pretty sure Holmgren isn't that dumb.

Nash is not a winner and won't get any better. JVR is a big game player (from what we have seen) and is going to get better.

to clairfy: As of right now, Nash > JVR. But not by nearly enough to make the trade make any sense.
*cough*olympic gold*cough*

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When did Yzerman fleece us?
He must be referring to Walker...

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So did Steve Yzerman.
If you're referring to the Gagne trade, you neglect an important issue: Gagne wanted to play for Tampa and the Flyers try to do right by their players, Carter and Richards excluded. Look at Roenick for nothing to the Kings where he wanted to go. Yzerman took full advantage of that situation. The only trade I think was bad was Eminger for a 1st and maybe the extra 2nd in the Upshall trade, but the Flyers seem to think 2nds are fairly worthless so can't get too mad at that.

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*cough*olympic gold*cough*

Mike Richards was on that team, so it shows how much value that holds.

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mike richards was on that team, so it shows how much value that holds.

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Mike Richards was on that team, so it shows how much value that holds.
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Mike Richards was on that team, so it shows how much value that holds.
Unreal.

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Is Nash Gagne'ing the Blue Jackets?

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Unreal.
This story-line will never die! Never!

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Is Nash Gagne'ing the Blue Jackets?
Not possible. The Flyers were up against the cap and a NTC. There are no cap issues in CBJ, so Nash doesn't have that kind of leverage.

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That's not to bag Richards, because I am not a Richards hater like other people. But a lot of people go on about how much of a crapbag Richards is (not saying that poster thinks that), but has shown he is a winner in tournaments, so you can't have it both ways.

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Mike Richards was on that team, so it shows how much value that holds.
not sure what the point of that is. both Nash and Richards are winners and damn good hockey players. the guy said Nash wasn't a winner, yet his line was the tops in the olympics shutting down opposing teams #1 lines.

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If you're referring to the Gagne trade, you neglect an important issue: Gagne wanted to play for Tampa and the Flyers try to do right by their players, Carter and Richards excluded. Look at Roenick for nothing to the Kings where he wanted to go. Yzerman took full advantage of that situation. The only trade I think was bad was Eminger for a 1st and maybe the extra 2nd in the Upshall trade, but the Flyers seem to think 2nds are fairly worthless so can't get too mad at that.
Both Eminger trades were atrocious. Coming in and going out. And if you really wanna be captain hindsight like we are with the Richards and Carter trades (both of which were questionable at the time), Umberger, Lupul, Upshall, and Versteeg (and Downie) are all top 6 forwards in the NHL now. Out of those trades all we have left is defensemen in which the fanbase is praying for an amnesty buyout. Downplay Gagne for an AHL defenseman all you want, but a hit-or-miss trade record (in my eyes) combined with a plenty of bad free agent signings and cap blunders makes me entitled to my opinion of Holmgren being... subpar.

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Winning is an overrated stat in evaluating a players talent. Hence the Rangers going nuts over Drury who won a cup as a talented but limited role player. Same way Richards won at every level. Jacked teams strong role player. Players should be evaluated by there individual abilities. Every player can be a champion when placed with the correct guys around him.

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I really don't understand this rumour. When healthy, we can roll 4 pretty strong lines and any trade for Nash likely wipes out most of a whole line...I choose depth over loading up salary on one line any day...

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When you are one of the highest scoring teams in the league, and you are still loosing, offense is not the problem.

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02-18-2012, 08:37 PM
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I really don't understand this rumour. When healthy, we can roll 4 pretty strong lines
Only one, MAYBE two of which can play defense, depending on the night. Adding a complete player to the mix wouldn't be so doom and gloom.

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and any trade for Nash likely wipes out most of a whole line...
If by most you mean 1/3, then maybe...

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my opinion of Holmgren being... subpar.
You're right that you are entitled to your opinion. I just think there is a lot of Holmgren bashing without proper perspective. The team has made the playoffs each year since he took over full-time(not midseason) which only eight total teams have done over that time. The team also made it to two conference finals which only 4 other teams have done in that time, plus a cup final. Besides winning the cup, what does he have to do to be considered a good gm? Everyone was pumping up what a wonderful gm George McFee in Washington was during the offseason and way better that Holgren cause he didnt overpay for a goalie. How are the caps doing right now? And have they made the conference finals once let alone the cup finals?

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