pretty much. I would like to see Boychuk replace Peverley on the point on the PP and if does then he's looking at 22-24 mins a night, which is definitely top 4.
Plus the guy hits like a Mack truck.
I just went to capgeek and picked two average salaried teams (along the same lines as the Bruins)...
The Devils - Henrik Tallinder $3.375M/yr
Plays about a minute more per game than Boychuk. 6 assists and no goals. -11.
The Red Wings - Jon Ericsson $3.25M/yr
Plays about 17 minutes per game. 9 points.
Pittsburgh Penguins - Brooks Orpik $3.75M/yr
Plays two more minutes per game than Boychuk. 2 goals and 11 points. +4
This is without effort. Just picking three teams. A guy on each who compares somewhat to what Boychuk is making.
Anyone think that Johnny's salary is out of line? Or that the salaries of any of these players are "killing" their respective teams? I think this contract is right in reasonable.
The number I had in my head for Johnny B was $2.83M/yr. This is higher than that. But you know what? I don't really care. That doesn't make his actual contract horrible.
JB does things for the Bruins that NO OTHER defenseman on the roster does, or even can in my opinion. He throws more BIG body checks that the rest of the D combined. His open ice hits register on the Richter Scale and change the momentum of a game in a moment. We have toughness up and down our top 6 D which is great, but JB is a wildcard. you just don't know what he is going to do. Admittedly sometimes it doesn't work out the best, but you can never question that this is a guy who will skate through the boards for his coach and teammates.
He scores HUGE goals. I can't remember the last time he scored a goal that wasn't at a key time. I am not sure that Mr Chara's 108 MPH is more effective than JB when he has a second to load up. He floats it on net better than any B's Dman save Seids... too.
He will pinch hard one play and back away the next. You just don't know what to expect from him, and that keeps the opposing forwards on their toes and forces them to keep their head up, and i promise you that when he is on the ice, opposing forwards coming through the NZ HEAR FOOTSTEPS!
I am happy about the deal, and happy with the $. I think is the Bruins let him walk, only then would people be saying, why can't we get a guy like JB?
I believe it was HIS play that allowed the B's to let go of Mark Stuart, maybe with a little bit of MS's injury problems.
JB- you are appreciated in this corner! Glad you are sticking around!
__________________ Bruins Talk Radio
Listen Here http://www.bruinstalkradio.com
Post game shows start 2.5 hours after the game start time.
It's nice to see the guys that bring the high effort level every game get rewarded.
Boychuk plays 20+ minutes...and no he's not perfect but he has improved and likely will continue to improve over his contract since he's right in the beginning of his prime years.
Plus he's a right shot, is beastly on the boards defensively, has improved his skating, and contributes with a timely offense here and there.
So uh...what the hell do people expect Boychuk would have gotten as a UFA? Do you actually think with 30 teams bidding he would have gotten LESS than this?
Seems like a fair deal, especially in a world with Tim Gleason pulling down 4 starting next year. Boychuk has flaws but he's a legitimate top 4 guy on a championship caliber team. There's something to be said for that.
QFT. The cap environment dictates this is a borderline discount for the B's, I was expecting a Sarich-like 5/$18m for him on the open market.
So i guess this means we aren't signing Suter. lol. Anyway, it's a little more than I thought it would be but not by much. On the open market he would have got 4 mil per easy IMO. Really though, he isn't blocking anyone as our d depth is horrible and we only need a spot for Hamilton down the road so it's all good for me.
im fine with it. people underrate boychuk. he soaks up big minutes for this team and this team is one of the best defensive teams in the league. id rather spend the money on a guy who has proven he can do that in this system and do it in the playoffs when it counts and be reliable and healthy than some unknown guy
What I've noticed browsing this thread is that everyone is complaining about the AAV. Yes it's high, However, what would the Bruins have to pay on the open market to replace him? Or hell even re-sign him if they let him go to UFA? I'd venture to guess more than 3.36 mil AAV. The guy plays big minutes, isn't horrible defensively, has a huge shot. He's a perfect second pairing d-man who can play the #2 if needed.
JB does things for the Bruins that NO OTHER defenseman on the roster does, or even can in my opinion. He throws more BIG body checks that the rest of the D combined. His open ice hits register on the Richter Scale and change the momentum of a game in a moment. We have toughness up and down our top 6 D which is great, but JB is a wildcard. you just don't know what he is going to do. Admittedly sometimes it doesn't work out the best, but you can never question that this is a guy who will skate through the boards for his coach and teammates.
He scores HUGE goals. I can't remember the last time he scored a goal that wasn't at a key time. I am not sure that Mr Chara's 108 MPH is more effective than JB when he has a second to load up. He floats it on net better than any B's Dman save Seids... too.
He will pinch hard one play and back away the next. You just don't know what to expect from him, and that keeps the opposing forwards on their toes and forces them to keep their head up, and i promise you that when he is on the ice, opposing forwards coming through the NZ HEAR FOOTSTEPS!
I am happy about the deal, and happy with the $. I think is the Bruins let him walk, only then would people be saying, why can't we get a guy like JB?
I believe it was HIS play that allowed the B's to let go of Mark Stuart, maybe with a little bit of MS's injury problems.
JB- you are appreciated in this corner! Glad you are sticking around!
Way too much when we have to worry about contracts for guys like Rask, Lucic, Horton, Seguin, Marchand in the very near future. There was absolutely no reason to just double his salary. A little bit of a raise? Sure, but not nearly this much.
what kind of math are they teaching at BC? he makes $2M this year.
JB does things for the Bruins that NO OTHER defenseman on the roster does, or even can in my opinion. He throws more BIG body checks that the rest of the D combined. His open ice hits register on the Richter Scale and change the momentum of a game in a moment. We have toughness up and down our top 6 D which is great, but JB is a wildcard. you just don't know what he is going to do. Admittedly sometimes it doesn't work out the best, but you can never question that this is a guy who will skate through the boards for his coach and teammates.
He scores HUGE goals. I can't remember the last time he scored a goal that wasn't at a key time. I am not sure that Mr Chara's 108 MPH is more effective than JB when he has a second to load up. He floats it on net better than any B's Dman save Seids... too.
He will pinch hard one play and back away the next. You just don't know what to expect from him, and that keeps the opposing forwards on their toes and forces them to keep their head up, and i promise you that when he is on the ice, opposing forwards coming through the NZ HEAR FOOTSTEPS!
I am happy about the deal, and happy with the $. I think is the Bruins let him walk, only then would people be saying, why can't we get a guy like JB?
I believe it was HIS play that allowed the B's to let go of Mark Stuart, maybe with a little bit of MS's injury problems.
JB- you are appreciated in this corner! Glad you are sticking around!
I don't understand the hate for this signing. Boychuk has done more than enough to earn $3.3M per year. If Gleason can get $4M, Boychuk at a $700k discount is spot on IMO.
JB does things for the Bruins that NO OTHER defenseman on the roster does, or even can in my opinion. He throws more BIG body checks that the rest of the D combined. His open ice hits register on the Richter Scale and change the momentum of a game in a moment. We have toughness up and down our top 6 D which is great, but JB is a wildcard. you just don't know what he is going to do. Admittedly sometimes it doesn't work out the best, but you can never question that this is a guy who will skate through the boards for his coach and teammates.
He scores HUGE goals. I can't remember the last time he scored a goal that wasn't at a key time. I am not sure that Mr Chara's 108 MPH is more effective than JB when he has a second to load up. He floats it on net better than any B's Dman save Seids... too.
He will pinch hard one play and back away the next. You just don't know what to expect from him, and that keeps the opposing forwards on their toes and forces them to keep their head up, and i promise you that when he is on the ice, opposing forwards coming through the NZ HEAR FOOTSTEPS!
I am happy about the deal, and happy with the $. I think is the Bruins let him walk, only then would people be saying, why can't we get a guy like JB?
I believe it was HIS play that allowed the B's to let go of Mark Stuart, maybe with a little bit of MS's injury problems.
JB- you are appreciated in this corner! Glad you are sticking around!
Aw man you took the words right out of my post!
Seriously I'm a huge Boychuk fan and I'm thrilled that he will be staying awhile. Now I can get his jersey
So uh...what the hell do people expect Boychuk would have gotten as a UFA? Do you actually think with 30 teams bidding he would have gotten LESS than this?
Seems like a fair deal, especially in a world with Tim Gleason pulling down 4 starting next year. Boychuk has flaws but he's a legitimate top 4 guy on a championship caliber team. There's something to be said for that.
I agree with you and Boston I'm sure expects Boychuk to keep improving. Due to his age (28) people forget this is just his 3rd NHL season, so I'm sure his postional play
alone will continue to improve.
I don't understand the hate for this signing. Boychuk has done more than enough to earn $3.3M per year. If Gleason can get $4M, Boychuk at a $700k discount is spot on IMO.
its typical hfboards. stars are easy to pick out and get big money everyone else is lumped together and anytime they get a decent raise the fringe pull their hair out.
particularly d-men where negatives are easy to pick out and positives other than scoring can be difficult to quantify. the grass is always greener for some people. many here would be very surprised to see how boychuk stakes up against a lot of those guys in that price range.
At this rate Kelly will be asking for 4.0+ million.
I think this is the third time I've read this in this thread.
On what planet is a third-line forward worth just as much (not to mention MORE) than a top-4 defenseman?
I don't know what Kelly will get, or who he will get it from. But just because Boychuk got a reasonable contract, it doesn't mean Chris Kelly is going to get an insane one.
Congratulations to Johnny's agent for getting more that Seidenberg.
PC over paid for Johnny but underpaid for Denis so it all works out.
Plus according to capgeek.com Denis has a limited NTC while
Johnny didn't that luxury. Maybe that's why Johnny got a little more $$.
Right!!! F Kelly this is a Boychuk thread and I'm glad he's signed, let's be happy for that.
Kelly will get what he gets when the time comes probably from another team and who cares.
I'm happier with reading the complaints now, with people saying "he's overpaid", than I would have been reading the complaints next year after he'd gotten more than this on the open-market and the B's were forced to replace him with an inferior player.
"Why didn't they just re-sign Boychuck?!?" would have been a common question, IMHO.
I just went to capgeek and picked two average salaried teams (along the same lines as the Bruins)...
The Devils - Henrik Tallinder $3.375M/yr
Plays about a minute more per game than Boychuk. 6 assists and no goals. -11.
The Red Wings - Jon Ericsson $3.25M/yr
Plays about 17 minutes per game. 9 points.
Pittsburgh Penguins - Brooks Orpik $3.75M/yrPlays two more minutes per game than Boychuk. 2 goals and 11 points. +4
This is without effort. Just picking three teams. A guy on each who compares somewhat to what Boychuk is making.
Anyone think that Johnny's salary is out of line? Or that the salaries of any of these players are "killing" their respective teams? I think this contract is right in reasonable.
The number I had in my head for Johnny B was $2.83M/yr. This is higher than that. But you know what? I don't really care. That doesn't make his actual contract horrible.
Orpik is way underpaid as he is MUCH BETTER than Boychuk and the other guys are getting. Is orpik on the final year of the deal? Thats highway robbery for Pitt if not.
I'm happier with reading the complaints now, with people saying "he's overpaid", than I would have been reading the complaints next year after he'd gotten more than this on the open-market and the B's were forced to replace him with an inferior player.
"Why didn't they just re-sign Boychuck?!?" would have been a common question, IMHO.
I'm happier with reading the complaints now, with people saying "he's overpaid", than I would have been reading the complaints next year after he'd gotten more than this on the open-market and the B's were forced to replace him with an inferior player.
"Why didn't they just re-sign Boychuck?!?" would have been a common question, IMHO.
Much needed.
