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02-16-2012, 02:57 PM
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Heard through the grapevine from someone who knows someone who knows parise that he wants to come play in Dallas. Take it with a grain of salt obviously, but I still can't help but to get my hopes up a bit.
im not going to let you get my hopes up, why would he come here

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02-16-2012, 03:00 PM
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I just don't see why he'd want to play in Dallas. Is he good friends with Star players or something?

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My initial thought as well, but the guy I was talking to was reasonably credible with who he might know, as he used to work in the echl and has pretty good pro connections

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02-16-2012, 03:15 PM
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He wants to come play for the original North Stars franchise and play for the team that Mike Modano (best American hockey player) built? Would Suter and Parise both be enticed by Modano to play here?

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02-16-2012, 03:18 PM
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he wants to come play for the original north stars franchise and play for the team that mike modano (best american hockey player) built? Would suter and parise both be enticed by modano to play here?
trade for carter and then moneywhip suter and parise brilliant

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02-16-2012, 03:37 PM
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Assuming source is true and parise signs in the offseason, and the trade for carter comes to fruition, I made up two possible lineups. One with depth throughout, the other with just a stacked top 6.

Parise-benn-vincour
Ott-carter-eriksson
Morrow-ribs-Ryder
Whocares-whocares-whocares


Parise-benn-eriksson
Morrow-ribs-carter
Ott-fiddler-Ryder


Either way, holy ****.

One can dream...

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02-16-2012, 03:41 PM
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Assuming source is true and parise signs in the offseason, and the trade for carter comes to fruition, I made up two possible lineups. One with depth throughout, the other with just a stacked top 6.

Parise-benn-vincour
Ott-carter-eriksson
Morrow-ribs-Ryder
Whocares-whocares-whocares


Parise-benn-eriksson
Morrow-ribs-carter
Ott-fiddler-Ryder


Either way, holy ****.

One can dream...
You assume we're not going to move Ribs or Morrow or Ott or Ryder or Robidas?

Benn-Carter-Chiasson
Parise-!?-Eriksson
Nystrom-Fiddler-Ott
?-Wandell- ?

The !? might be an issue, but maybe assume Ribeiro will be here.

Those ?s could be filled with the following: Gazdic? Sawada? Burish? Dvorak? Glennie? Smiths?

Is infinitely more realistic than anything you just pointed out in terms of next year's lineup.

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02-16-2012, 03:43 PM
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You assume we're not going to move Ribs or Morrow or Ott or Ryder or Robidas?

Benn-Carter-Chiasson
Parise-?-Eriksson
Nystrom-Fiddler-Ott
?-Wandell- ?

Those ?s could be filled with the following: Gazdic? Sawada? Burish? Dvorak? Glennie?

Is infinitely more realistic than anything you just pointed out in terms of next year's lineup.
I dont think Benn is gonna get moved back to wing

Parise-Benn-Ryder
?-Carter-Eriksson
Nystrom-Fiddler-Ott
?-Wandell- ?

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02-16-2012, 03:46 PM
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Well I was operating under the assumption we give chiasson a year at Texas and just let Ryder walk at the end of his contract next season, which is where chiasson would step in. Didn't feel like trying to guess who would come in if morrow was traded so I left him in. And I can't see them trading ribs, as he's pretty much our only true playmaker.

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02-16-2012, 03:48 PM
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Would those pie-in-the-sky lineups even fit under the cap? I know it's been a while since we've had to think about it...

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Would those pie-in-the-sky lineups even fit under the cap? I know it's been a while since we've had to think about it...
the ones where morrow/ribeiro are gone or the ones with them as third liners

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Would those pie-in-the-sky lineups even fit under the cap? I know it's been a while since we've had to think about it...
Given were at the floor right now and assuming we pretty much give away some egregious contracts like robidas, ott, and hopefully morrow and factoring in that well be dealing with a decent amount of elc's (Larsen, vincour, and hopefully dillon and another ahl callup). I would assume there would be space for two more high paid players.

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I dont think Benn is gonna get moved back to wing

Parise-Benn-Ryder
?-Carter-Eriksson
Nystrom-Fiddler-Ott
?-Wandell- ?
I forgot about Ryder. And I assume he means the one where they're third liners.
------ Now ---------------- Later
Parise-Benn-Ryder -> Parise-Benn-Chiasson
Eriksson-Carter-Vincour -> Eriksson-Carter-R Smith?
Nystrom-Fiddler-Ott -> Ott-Fiddler-Vincour
Gazdic-Wandell-Burish -> Don't care it's a fourth line.

Now being next year, later being the year after.

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02-16-2012, 03:59 PM
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I forgot about Ryder. And I assume he means the one where they're third liners.
------ Now ---------------- Later
Parise-Benn-Ryder -> Parise-Benn-Chiasson
Eriksson-Carter-Vincour -> Eriksson-Carter-R Smith?
Nystrom-Fiddler-Ott -> Ott-Fiddler-Vincour
Gazdic-Wandell-Burish -> Don't care it's a fourth line.

Now being next year, later being the year after.
Yep with those forward lines

The third liner's one would work but it would be verry verry tight we would probably have a shoddy defense to make it work

we would have to bury pardy


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I'm at school right now, ill capgeek some different scenarios when I get home.

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02-16-2012, 04:09 PM
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Those "later" lines are extremely optimistic that guys like Chiasson and R. Smith would be ready, let alone ever make it.

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You really think Chiasson is a first line NHL player next season? No way.

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02-16-2012, 04:13 PM
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You really think Chiasson is a first line NHL player next season? No way.
I don't think it's a matter of him holding his own on the first line. He might have growing pains like Vincour this year, but I playing with Parise and Benn... those two can probably make anyone with a shred of talent a first liner.. and as I said in the trade board, I am very high on Chiasson and I think there are teams out there who are also interested in him as a prospect.

As for R Smith, that could be really any of our prospects or a free agent signing. There is a reason it's a ? there.

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02-16-2012, 04:16 PM
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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($6.500m) / Benn Jamie ($5.000m) / Michael Ryder ($3.500m)
Tomas Vincour ($0.800m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Brenden Morrow ($4.100m) / Mike Ribeiro ($5.000m) / Steve Ott ($2.950m)
Eric Nystrom ($1.400m) / Vernon Fiddler ($1.800m) / Radek Dvorak ($1.500m)

DEFENSEMEN
Alex Goligoski ($4.600m) / Philip Larsen ($2.000m)
Trevor Daley ($3.300m) / Stephane Robidas ($3.300m)
Mark Fistric ($2.000m) / Jordie Benn ($0.550m)

GOALTENDERS
Kari Lehtonen ($3.550m) / Richard Bachman ($1.500m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,872,727; BONUSES: $145,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,427,273

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02-16-2012, 04:21 PM
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Woo even keeping our pricey vets it fits!

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Somebody tell me if im totally off base on any of these numbers

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($6.500m) / Benn Jamie ($5.000m) / Michael Ryder ($3.500m)
Tomas Vincour ($0.800m) / Jeff Carter ($5.272m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Brenden Morrow ($4.100m) / Mike Ribeiro ($5.000m) / Steve Ott ($2.950m)
Eric Nystrom ($1.400m) / Vernon Fiddler ($1.800m) / Radek Dvorak ($1.500m)

DEFENSEMEN
Alex Goligoski ($4.600m) / Philip Larsen ($2.000m)
Trevor Daley ($3.300m) / Stephane Robidas ($3.300m)
Mark Fistric ($2.000m) / Jordie Benn ($0.550m)

GOALTENDERS
Kari Lehtonen ($3.550m) / Richard Bachman ($1.500m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,872,727; BONUSES: $145,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $1,427,273
Benn likely too cheap (5.8 guessing). Parise likely too cheap (7 guessing). Larsen slightly too expensive (1.4 guessing). Fistric slightly too expensive (1.5 guessing)

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Woo even keeping our pricey vets it fits!
I would rather not keep some of those pricey vets. That backend looks mighty scary bad.

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Benn likely too cheap (5.8 guessing). Parise likely too cheap (7 guessing). Larsen slightly too expensive (1.4 guessing). Fistric slightly too expensive (1.5 guessing)
would still fit with a 20 man roster


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I would rather not keep some of those pricey vets. That backend looks mighty scary bad.
yes this although i don't see the backend being much worse than this years

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I would rather not keep some of those pricey vets. That backend looks mighty scary bad.
I don't either, I'm just pointing out that even if we don't cheapen our roster it would still work. I'd like to see robi, ott and morrow all traded

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I don't either, I'm just pointing out that even if we don't cheapen our roster it would still work. I'd like to see robi, ott and morrow all traded
id like to keep ott around if he would be a 3rd liner and not a top 6er it's not his damn fault we don't have enough top 6 forwards

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