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Rick Nash on the Trading Block II (Kings source says no to Eklund's CBJ/LAK rumor)

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02-14-2012, 04:35 PM
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My proposal on the Vcr forum was

Ballard
Raymond
Schneider

for

nash

Not a bad return for Col, the big bait is Schneider, and the rest is to even up the deal and the salary cap hit ...

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Want the latest on the Rick Nash trade rumours? Listen to what @TSNBobMcKenzie has to say


"The LA Kings is a team that I think will kick down the door to get Rick Nash"!


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To Vancouver : Rick Nash

To Columbus : 2012 1st round draft pick
Roberto Luongo
Cody Hodgson

Why this trade makes sense : Vancouver gears up for their cup run and makes their top 6 disgusting. Schneider is ready for the starting job so losing Luongo shouldnt hurt too bad, giving up Hodgson sucks but you have to pay up for a player like Nash.

Luongo would solidify columbus' goaltending and allow for Mason to be developed properly. i could see Luo doing really well in a market like columbus with no pressure.

Hodgson and Johansen set them up for top 6 centers for the future and cbj get to add another firsts to start building.

Maybe Vancouver adds a prospect. not too farmiliar with van citys prospect pool maybe a guy like Schroeder...


Thoughts?
You can't be serious.

Nash for Luongo alone might be a fair deal...

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I could also see throwing in a 1st or someone like Schroeder.

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02-14-2012, 04:37 PM
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mckenzie is highly respected but the guys said nash wasnt on the blocks yesterday and today reports he is...........

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Okay, since the eklund thing is bonus, lets try to find out his value.

1st round pick (easily)
top prospect (easily)
teir 2 prospect (debatable)
Player off roster (easily).

sounds about right?
Pretty much something like this.

You could put together a package that fits this mould from just about every team in the league. So there isn't much point in the endless pages of debating offers. They'll all have this same structure. Nash's NMC chops that down to about 5 teams. From there, you can compare assets offered.

Since we don't know the rumoured teams - this thread is completely useless, unless kept to updates from sources.

Just saying.

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Bobby Mac's tweet was a bit disappointing. I was hoping for 'ass clown' part 2 from him. This thread would really blow up.
I like to think it was more or less implied.

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Canucks aren't trading Luongo. If Canucks are serious about getting Nash and aren't gonna be idiots about it package probably has to start

Schneider
Ballard
Raymond
1st

Schneider is the main piece, Ballard and Raymond would need to go for cap reasons. Adding any prospects on top of that would be overpayment. I'm doubtful this happens.

Edit: Sorry, missed the post above with almost the same proposal.

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How hard is it to understand? Honestly?

Stop discussing the source. This thread is about Rick Nash. Not Eklund's credibility.

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What blue chip assets? Bernier? He has played 25 games in 3 years.
Penner and Hunter are pending UFA's and there is no confirmation where the pick would be.

That "loser" your talking about is a former Richard trophy winning good 2 way player and a two time 40 goal scorer despite never having a decent playmaker to play with.
Because he has been blocked by Quick. I still hold Bernier in high regard.

He won the Richard 7 years ago. SEVEN. That is a long ass time. There has to be a statute of limitations on that kind of thing.

He is a glorified 65 point player who gets paid like a 95 point player (that part is not up for debate, it's a stone cold fact) and is the *franchise player* for a franchise that has been dead for 10 years.

Bottom line is you don't pay 8 million to guy who people still have to use the crutch of "he has never played with anybody." 8 million dollar players make the players around him better.

The possibilities are endless for Columbus if they trade Nash. Between the cap space being available, the picks, and just the overall closing of the first failed chapter of the book... Columbus fans should be excited and want a trade to happen.

Columbus has put it's eggs in the Rick Nash basket for too long and where has it gotten them? Nowhere. Nash has always been their *franchise guy* and look where the franchise is: a complete dumpster fire. Somewhere down the line Columbus was fooled into thinking that Nash was a franchise guy and now they sit here today no more successful than when they entered into the league as a lowly expansion team.

Trade Nash, get an extra 1st + a little bit of cap space + get a prospect + get a top 6 potential guy, draft Yakupov. After the forest fire the grass will regrow.


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I have to think that the CBJ GM is a bit more realistic than CBJ fans.
Apparantly not because there is a rumor that last month Howson asked for Brown, Johnson, bernier, and a pick for Nash

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Nash to LA makes some sense but not at that price at all.


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Wouldn't take Nash's $7.8M for free (assuming we couldn't just flip him).

Doesn't make any sense on this team.

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Wouldn't do luongo straight up for nash

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Ballard, Raymond, Schneider = $7.6 million
Nash = $7.8 million

Not saying it'll happen, but cap space is not an issue.
You calculate it wrong.

It has to be like this:

Ballard + Raymond + Schneider = 7.6 million

Ballard roster spot (Tanev 900k) + Nash (7.8) + back-up goalie (Lack? 900k) = 9.6 million

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If Nash is not a superstar like some of you have stated on this thread than neither is Parise. I think a lot of people are downgrading Nash cause he hasn't done anything, but fail to notice what team he actually plays on. Nash may not be a Crosby but he is worth more than what many teams will want to pay.

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As soon as I got into my car I heard someone say "Brandon Dubinsky and a 1st for Rick Nash." I almost had a heart attack before they said it was speculation

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Want the latest on the Rick Nash trade rumours? Listen to what @TSNBobMcKenzie has to say
-McKenzie basically says there are very few suitors, he won't consider anyone not on his list. Don't expect a huge return.

-Doesn't think goaltending is required, but probably.

-Pretty sure Nash won't be in CBJ next year

- Primary contendors: NYR, Phi, Tor, Boston, SJS (mentions JT and his friendship), Van (cap issues), LA. Blues/Preds (maybe)

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I have no doubt DL wont trade for Nash. He's after Carter

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Canucks aren't trading Luongo. If Canucks are serious about getting Nash and aren't gonna be idiots about it package probably has to start

Schneider
Ballard
Raymond
1st

Schneider is the main piece, Ballard and Raymond would need to go for cap reasons. Adding any prospects on top of that would be overpayment. I'm doubtful this happens.

Edit: Sorry, missed the post above with almost the same proposal.
The whole thing is an overpayment. Why decimate the canucks depth to acquire Nash? He's hardly a superstar.

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The whole thing is an overpayment. Why decimat the canucks depth to acquire Nash? He's hardly a superstar.
That's why I think it's doubtful it would happen. Plus it still puts the Canucks in the same boat of having no cap space and needing to acquire a dman.

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Possible teams interested in NASH: NYR, PHI, BUF AND SJS.

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mckenzie is highly respected but the guys said nash wasnt on the blocks yesterday and today reports he is...........
Well he did say "To our knowledge he isn't available". Things change within seconds.

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Why?

They get this loser off the team, get blue chip assets, AND free up several million to play with?

I have said it for years that once Columbus trades Nash, his 65 points, and that 8 million cap space he is holding hostage.. then and only then will they get out of the dumpster and become the team that the Columbus market deserves.
Who are the Jackets going to add with the cap space? Probably someone not as good as Nash - that's for certain.

If they're not getting blue-chip assets (some combinationg JJ or Voynov, Bernier, 1st, etc) CLM should hold onto Nash.

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mckenzie is highly respected but the guys said nash wasnt on the blocks yesterday and today reports he is...........
Dreger's reporting it too. Climate has shifted.

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